I have recently come to the conclusion that the only thing that can give meaning to life is to start a family and raise kids who are fulfilled, healthy, see beauty in the world and are grateful to be alive. I have interests and things I enjoy doing, but I just have this constant feeling that it's all for nothing if I live my entire life without raising children.
The problem is that I got married very young before my brain fully developed, and my wife doesn't think the same way. She hasn't really changed much in the close to 10 years we've been together, and she basically wants to live her whole life going to cafes and watching instagram reels and netflix.
I can't bring myself to break her heart by leaving her, and I'm also generally not interested in other women and I have yet to meet one I would have wanted to be with, so I think I'm just going to waste my entire life tbdesu family.
Post frog jpegs or music for this feel. I used to visit this board every day a long time ago and I'm feeling nostalgic.

> the only thing that can give meaning to life is to start a family and raise kids

That's just egotistical talk

bruh you have a wife, stfu and get out of here. this board is for loners not sex havers

>>81608013 (OP)
there is no objective meaning to life, you're just basing this on your primal insticts
>reproduce = good
>dont reproduce = bad
nothing inherently wrong with it but to say that it is everyone's calling.... ehh...

>>81608042
>>81608055
I can concede that other people might be content never having kids, but I think they're simply wrong. You bring up "primal instincts" in a diminutive way as if they're something to look down on, but I think denying that part of yourself is foolish. I used to try to analyse every little thing about life so I could "understand" it and minmax joy and success like those self improvement guys, but it's like the more I do that the more I realise I should just listen to those instincts and live a simple life.

>>81608169
i'm not looking down on 'em, i think that it just is - its our base, our fundamenntals because despite our tech and our advances, we're still animals and in the animal kingdom the ones who reproduce the most wins

as a species, we've won this already at 8 billion+ folks - its just that on an individual basis, it depends on the guy/girl

How old are you two? She may hit baby fever in her 30s

>>81608199
>as a species, we've won this already at 8 billion+ folks
Ants would like to have a word
>>81608200
28 but she's definitely got some kind of immaturity developmental thing and she pretty much lives and thinks like a teenager still. I wouldn't want to just have a kid simply for the sake of it, I want us both to be mature enough to be good parents. I'm still working on that myself, I want to be more patient, better at managing stress, mentally and physically stronger, etc. I recently quit vapes because I had a random realisation of how pathetic it would look if I was puffing a fucking vape on my way to pick up my kids from kindergarten. I wanna stop being a child and start being a grown man. I'm still addicted to caffeine, but I think that's not quite as bad.

>>81608293
>20 quadrillion ants
how much does each man, woman, and child on earth have to personally kill to get that number down to zero?

>>81608300
I don't think it's feasible, anon, they reproduce really fast

>>81608013 (OP)
"oops the condom broke"

>>81608042
It's only egotistical if you have shitty genes
If youre healthy and intelligent you have a duty to pass them on, and not breeding is incredibly selfish unless you have some higher calling

You sound like you are having a psychotic break, splitting on your wife and making lots of unspecific but grand plans for yourself. How about you see if you can stay off the vape for a month and stick to an exercise and meal plan? Maybe take your wife to a museum and see if you can have real conversations about the things there. It's really easy to make a shitpost on 4chan, but let's see if you can actually do things for yourself.

>>81608013 (OP)
*Sigh*
https://youtu.be/6c9Vxf_p7LI?si=nlcFfg7zN6X9_198

mfw the meaning of life is to live.