When women say they like /fit/ and athletic men they mean right, not Roid monsters like left who look absolutely disgusting. Being lean and having some upper body development is all you need.

Why do male models always stand lopsided like that? Why are women turned on by that? It looks really stupid and cringe.

>>81608496 (OP)
I don't give a fuck what women want nigger

>>81608513
It's because he's walking on a runway

>>81608496 (OP)
No, they don't. It depends on the person in question. The guy on the right needs more upper body development but not by a lot. Sam Sulek is clearly on a bunch of 19nors and looks bloated as fuck

Pro bodybuilders are male gaze but women want a built guy who doesn't go to the gym, because gym as a hobby is icky as is caring about your appearance at all. You just have to be magically beautiful which is impossible.

The average man on 250mg test and a bit of Anavar looks unbelievably appealing to women. Go to the gym 3-4 times a week, pretend you don't take it seriously, take a smallish amount of roids and you'll never be huge but better than every guy

>>81608533
>No, they don't. It depends on the person in question.
Ok correction, all attractive and young women under the age of 23 will be more attracted to right then.

>>81608513
I'm lopsided like that because I broke my collarbone :(

>>81608496 (OP)
Why do you care? You don't like look like either of those men and never could.

>>81608551
I look like right body wise but ofc my face isn't as good as the male model that mogs other male models

>>81608538
Nope, women are weird and like men have niches they prefer, you have to max out what you're capable of. No man can be every single woman's type like how not every woman can be what I want. I like fat women with a huge ass, belly and small tits, and would outright reject a woman with no ass or was skinny

Some women like my physique, but Ive gone beyond a casual lifter and it's definitely attractive but more niche now. I have a beard, body hair, and what I need next are tattoos.

It might not be for you but you have to lean into what you can do to make yourself the best version of you

>>81608496 (OP)
Left is 5'10" and right is like 6'4"

>>81608496 (OP)
im a woman and sam sulek is way hotter than chico

>>81608597
uh huh and what is your body weight and age

>>81608585
WOMEN LIKE ALL KINDS OF MEN, INCEL!

>>81608602
Kek classic--

>>81608601
im actually a balding 30 year old middle eastern man you fuckin faggot

>>81608602
....that's literally my point retard
I can never be chad but I can grow a beard to make my jaw look better. I can cut my hair in an edgy way and appeal to a woman's niche

Some people are just fucking ugly and it's over for them, but recommending some balding ogre with a heavy brow and wide hips to twinkmaxx is retarded and that's my entire point

>>81608496 (OP)
That's what they would actually look like next to each other too, because of their height difference.

>>81608496 (OP)
They'd like a vtaper, adonis belt and better defined abs but yeah lean is law or whatever.

>>81608496 (OP)
I don't care what women want, I want to be huge

>>81608602
>people like attractive people
waow

>>81608645
You cant say that, thats vain and superficial and not all women like the same. Women arent a monolith.

>>81608496 (OP)
its almost like people are attracted to normal looking people. anything can be bad in excess. this is not a hot take.

>>81608687
Define normal, in this case quite literally. 80% of americans are fat, half of that 80% is obese.

>>81608692
maybe i should have just said healthy, thats a much better term.

>>81608697
Yeah and I agree with you im just being a snarkass though it does paint a picture of there being an ideal.

>>81608533
I would like to add that once you have done steroids just one time, from one small cycle even if it's just like, 4 weeks, straight testosterone 500 mg a week, you will have an easier time building muscle for the rest of your life then if you would have never done the steroid cycle. Also your dick doesn't shrink. Your balls don't shrink either they just kind of get jellified on the outside layers because they are no longer being signaled to make testosterone. And then after you get off the steroids and natural testosterone is commanded to be made again via LH, the testicles Harden back up. This is all accelerated with some old breast cancer drugs.

>>81608514
this, we aiming for dat bussy.

>>81608568
>i am delusional and skinny fat
Yup

>>81608697
being on steroids isn't healthy thoughbiet

>>81608941
>you will have an easier time building muscle for the rest of your life then if you would have never done the steroid cycle
Explain this. I am on 250mg test for 12 weeks with some dbol. Will I have a permanent advantage over natties if I stop?

>>81608496 (OP)
Why do you hate men who wear tzitzit? This is blatant antisemitism.

>>81608496 (OP)
Try not looking like an ogre.