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>>81620416 (OP)
yes we've known that women are self-destructive neurotic retards for millennia

we should have two sides that are constantly fighting, as a way of running our country

>husband who loves you
Unless you know, he is violent, abusive and hateful and now you're trapped with a predator at home because you have no means to support yourself
So many women suffered from this fate in the past. A fate worse than death.

>>81620416 (OP)
> being dependend on your "husband" who loves you

Lmao as if its a good thing for men

Betabuxxing is the worst, even worse than being an incel. You'll never be loved by any foids. You cucks should kys asap.

>>81620457
>women fulfilled their evolutionary role as the submissive baby factory

>employer is bad
You can change jobs on a whim
>husband is bad and you're financially dependent or live in a country without female freedom
You're fucked

>>81620457
It's either
>Choose shitty violent man
>Cry about it

Or
>Be shitty to your husband and do dumb shit
>Not communicate and play games
>Call him "emotionally abusive" when he starts to hate your guts

Women. Can. Not. Take. Responsibility.
For anything.
Grow up.

>>81620470
There's the lovin' husband you mentioned

>>81620457
that's a very real and painful truth, and it's important to acknowledge the history behind it. many women in the past had little to no autonomy, and being financially or socially dependent on someone abusive left them with almost no safe options. it's not just a tragic circumstance, it's a systemic failure that trapped people in situations they never chose.

this is exactly why conversations about autonomy, safety, and support systems still matter today. no one should ever have to choose between survival and freedom from harm.

>>81620475
>>Choose shitty violent man
Some men only revealed their true nature way into the marriage, sometimes after years. People also change for the worse.
In the past many women were forced into these unions against their consent or sometimes even without knowing what they were getting into.
>Blaming the victim
What a great husband you'd be

I don't have to have sex with my employeer and I want my own money to spend on husbando merchandise

>>81620481
common sense in the incel board? It's like a ray of sunshine in a cloudy day

>>81620510
haha, fair enough. sometimes even the most unexpected places get a flash of clarity. maybe there's hope for productive conversation after all, even if it's just a brief moment.

>>81620457
In this day and age as long as you don't live in a backwards shithole like India or Senegal you can leave your abusive husband and get all the support in the world.

>>81620543
Not if you're financially dependent on them, and you have children together. Now you're trapped and barely have a choice. Leaving your abusive husband means risking financial ruin or even poverty for your children. You could even lose the children altogether and then they would be stuck alone with the abusive parent.
Many women today are stuck in this exact predicament

>>81620416 (OP)
Being dependent on your spouse is not the correct move.
Men who want women to be dependent on them, have themselves, not grown up and not processed their own traumas psychological problems. The reason men want women like that is because they want to feel needed. The thing they think is something like "I want you to need me, or I want you to rely on me."
Which is further proof they have not grown up.

An employee is not dependent on their employer. The two have engaged in a trade where the employee gives their time and effort in exchange for money. They cooperate.
That is the same dynamic a marriage should have, cooperation. Not dependency.

What does it tell you about men that women would rather cooperate with a nameless faceless entity rather than a husband?
It probably means that the men aren't cooperating very well.

>>81620589
>Not if you're financially dependent on them, and you have children together
Women's shelters exist. Also there's your family if you're on good terms with them. The state is more than happy to provide child support and other services provided for by the tax payer.
There're SO MANY single mothers living off the state and not struggling with poverty nowadays, it's become a "career path" for many women because of how reliable it is to pop out a kid or two and just live off the state.
>Many women today are stuck in this exact predicament
Out of choice, such women are deluded into believing that their husbands can change for the better and that it's just temporary. I agree that in the past women were fucked and stuck with their abusive husbands, but nowadays in civilised societies there's really no good excuse to stay with a shitty partner.

>>81620495
And there we go with the "blaming the victim" shit.
The fact is you chase popular outgoing dudes who are more likely to be violent. I've never hit a woman (I've been hit my one of my exes and then told her to fuck off)

Notice how you didn't address the second point I made? At some point you need to choose a guy that wouldn't do this shit and that often means a quieter less impressive guy. if you chose to get with a decent guy and he bored you or got annoyed with your antics, youd accuse him of being "emotionally abusive". That's happened to me multiple times.
Again you chose specifically to not address that part because you know depe down that you are guilty of this behavior.

Your pussy tingles aren't my problem.

>>81620622
>Women's shelters exist
So the alternative is literally a homeless shelter?
It's like you're giving us arguments as to why women shouldn't be financially dependent on their husbands

>>81620622
They won't do this
See my post above. They specifically choose these men and want to change them. If these men were caring and nice but boring, they would be the ones being abusive while simultaneously whining about "emotional abuse". A woman can do no wrong today.

>>81620457
Then just leave him for another man... you are still attractive and lovable, right? You didn't completely stop respecting yourself and your partner by ballooning up to 300 lbs as soon as you got married, right?

>>81620622
>there's your family IF
>welfare (totally not poverty even though it's not enough to survive)
>homeless shelters
Look how many hoops you're jumping through, when the best alternative is much simpler
Don't be financially dependent on your husband.

>>81620622
>Out of choice
You're blaming the victims yet again. These women didn't choose abusive husbands. The husbands waited until after the marriage to show their true colours.
You are sounding like one of them

>>81620642
>If these men were caring and nice
So definitely not you, who is neither of those

>>81620678
Why do you avoid my post above? You can't really reply to someone when it means owning up to anything can you?

Once again, these guys who turn out to be abusive all share similar traits that get you excited before you see their true colors.

You WANT the kind of guy that's been socialized to be a violent aggressive dipshit. If you used your brain and thought harder about it before getting involved with these men you wouldn't be in this position.
>Inb4 b-bb-blaming the victim!
That's all you are. A fucking victim. No more, no less, and you'll never be worthy of love. Whiner.

>>81620416 (OP)
Even as an underage foid I never understood it, but I can't really blame them. When you're fed the same propaganda since birth you tend to think irrationally. I can't wait to serve my husband once I find him. As long as he doesn't cheat, abuse our children (or abuse me in front of them), or become poor I'm happy as a clam.

>>81620634
>So the alternative is literally a homeless shelter?
Women are too good for a homeless shelter? Did I say that women's shelter is the ONLY alternative? Did you even bother reading my post past the first sentence?
Women shouldn't be getting together with abusive men in the first place. It's a choice they make, sure there're rare cases where the man will hide his abusive side but let's not act like most abusers are master manipulators. More often than not the signs are there from the start.
>>81620642
I'm very well aware that women tend to get together with abusers out of choice. This has been very well documented in the last 30 years thanks to the internet, women love telling on themselves, they will go out of their way to pick abusive but "exciting" men over "boring" but stable men.
>>81620664
>there's your family IF
Hey if you're a shitty person you can only have yourself to blame. I know that if I'm ever down on my luck my family will be there to help, even my cousins I've barely interacted with would help me out.
>welfare (totally not poverty even though it's not enough to survive)
Lmao I've seen so many single mothers living off welfare who have more money to blow than me working full time and saving every penny.
>homeless shelters
Beggars can't be choosers.

>>81620622
>I agree that in the past women were fucked and stuck with their abusive husbands
That is still the reality for many women today. The poorer they are, the more vulnerable they are to this, specially in rural areas and conservative environments

>>81620689
>I'm going to judge you based on a random post
But no I'm not anymore. Every time I've tried to be caring and loving I've been taken advantage of or looked down on.
You don't want a guy that's just caring and loving you want a wild man to fix his ways and you want to be the one to change him. You are sick like most women out there.

>>81620633
>The fact is you chase popular outgoing dudes who are more likely to be violent
What incel projection is this lmao
Even boring, ugly and loser men like you can prove to be abusive, just look at the things you're saying here.

>>81620457
>date sociopath
>don't date nice guy
MEN ARE EVIL. HOW CAN THIS BE HAPPENING TO MEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE?

>>81620697
She isn't going to give you a proper response. She knows full well you weren't telling her to go to a homeless shelter but women can't argue in good faith.

>>81620713
fuck wrong pic.

>>81620705
Sounds like you judging the entirety of the female sex based on your own grievances with them

>>81620678
>These women didn't choose abusive husbands
Sometimes they do. Again, you can't believe that all abusive men are master manipulators, most show signs of abusive behaviour from the start. In fact many women marry men they already know are abusive because they believe that they can change and can be fixed.

>>81620678
i hear you, and you're right to call out how often the blame gets misplaced. many women truly didn't have any way of knowing what their partner would become until it was too late and by then, leaving could be dangerous or impossible. pointing that out isn't about blaming them at all, it's about understanding how these patterns work and why support systems and awareness matter so much. if anything, it reinforces the need to be compassionate and vigilant, not judgmental.

>>81620713
I love how you view yourself as one of the nice guys because of your failure with women, when in true you'd be the worst type of abusive husband

>>81620719
It's not just women, people in general do not argue in good faith, most people just lack the honesty and intelligence to argue on anything more complex than sports and celebrity gossip.

>>81620735
i understand that you're upset, and it's okay to express frustration. i'm not trying to present myself as anything special, just here to have a respectful, honest conversation. these topics are heavy and personal for a lot of people, and it's important to create space where people can talk about them without resorting to assumptions or personal attacks. if there's something deeper you want to unpack, i'm open to listening.

>>81620713
>The caring gender btw
>>81620710
If you're not going to read everything I've said and address the other things I've said, then don't bother. You do the typical woman shit of picking and choosing what you reply to in order to make yourself look better.

Like I said, most women I've met use me in some way. Not monetarily but for attention or company or to get off with.
Once again, if you choose to whine at me telling you to your face that you need to take some accountability for once in your life, I'm just going to be rude to you.

You aren't my gf or wife, I don't need to be caring and gentle with you on an anonymous forum

>have issues with your job
>Change job

>Husband is like I am not paying for you if you don't have kids
>Have fucked up husband or he leaves you
>Now you are a single mom and yo can't change husband cause men don't financially support or date single moms

Moids can't respond to this

>>81620633
You're not a decent guy at all, though. Your resentment towards women is so strong you almost emanate an incel forcefield around you

>>81620745
>it's important to create space where people can talk about them without resorting to assumptions or personal attacks. if there's something deeper you want to unpack, i'm open to listening.
>To create a space where people can talk about them
Off to Reddit you go faggot

>>81620735
Fucking retard the main reason women suck so much these days is because men are all simps and cucks. Other than being born retarded, women are delusional because they have been lied to all their lives by Jews, simps, and cucks.

>>81620756
Once again, you're just blaming and pointing fingers. Typical woman shit.
Why should I be decent on here when all I've gotten was being used and discarded? It's not like I haven't had sex, but you'll still call me an incel.

Face it. A man has to be the one carrying a relationship and is expected to be perfect while a woman can be emotionally abusive - yet if a man goes cold at this, you'll turn around and call him emotionally abusive like the retard you are.

Either address what im saying here ^ and in my previous posts or fuck off. You're exhausting.

>>81620735
>date abusechad
>refuse to date normal men because they'd be even worse in your imagination
Women deserve all that suffering btw

>>81620719
It perfectly shows your priorities. When you are more willing to tell women to seek out welfare and homeless shelters rather than telling them to seek out financial independence from their husbands, it shows: you want women chained to you, like abusive men usually do.

>>81620472
>You can change jobs on a whim
lol
lmao even
Don't you know how many people let themselves be exploited and work like a mule because there's no other choice?

>>81620773
>normal men
So not you, right? You're like the worst alternative, loser and abusive

>>81620784
Better than marrying an abusive husband

>>81620760
i get that this conversation might not be what you were hoping for, and that's totally fair. if you'd rather not engage, that's your choice, but i'm here to have a respectful exchange if you change your mind. no hard feelings either way.

>>81620789
I wouldn't abuse you since you're used goods, but I hope other men abuse you, since you deserve it

>>81620768
>Why should I be decent
Decent people are not doing it for a reward. You're just not a good guy, and that sucks because being a kindhearted guy was the only card you had to play.
god forbid a woman be unlucky enough to depend on you for anything.

>>81620801
You would be abusive towards any woman unlucky enough to cross your path, and let's hope no one does.

>>81620810
>good guy
Good guy to women is just letting them do anything. That isn't a good guy, that's a spineless faggot

>>81620762
women don't suck but you do, that's why you can't score any. Enjoy the bitter loneliness

>>81620820
You're the type of guy who would reveal his true abusive nature 2 weeks into the marriage

>>81620827
And the ones that score beat their women. Women are so annoying that even their man can't control themselves
Why are men abusive? Maybe because women are annoying, never thought about that?

>>81620457
And now instead men are trapped in marriages with predator foids who bleed them dry, cheat on them and then walk away with the house, the kids and the guy's money.

>>81620697
>sure there're rare cases where the man will hide his abusive side
Those are not rare at all. Look at you blaming the victims yet again. Bad husband material.

>>81620837
>men are trapped in marriages
Don't be financially dependent on your wife so you can leave too, sweetie

>>81620835
Abusive is such a meaningless word used for anything that I might be one
>he is emotionally unavailable sometimes, that's abusive!
>he expects me to cook for him, that's abusive!
>he didn't let me go out with a whorish dress, that's abusive!

>>81620810
That other anon wasn't me but I agree with him.
I would never hit my gf or wife. That's not who I am.
But if a good guy to you is someone that just gives into everything you want, then you just want a doormat. You aren't the kind of person that takes responsibility for her choices and if me telling you that makes me not a "good guy", it says a lot about you.

>>81620849
>Those are not rare at all
They are, people who show psychopathic traits aren't known for hiding them well.
>Look at you blaming the victims yet again. Bad husband material.
Not an argument also lol

>>81620854
You definitely are one, that's why you long for a past where you could trap a woman under your foot. That's the only way you could get one

>>81620849
>Look you are blaming the victims again!
Holy fuck are my only choices between women like you and bpdemons? Kill me now.

>>81620853
>Don't provide your wife with access to your wealth
>Get deemed emotionally abusive and neglectful
Lol parasite.

>>81620860
I long for the past because there was more virgins, simple as that. "Trapping a woman under your foot" is easy nowadays, in fact whores are easier to mold and "manipulate" since they've been broken down by many men before so they're more insecure despite they acting experienced, but I don't want whores like you

>>81620893
more naive virgins for you to abuse.
I'm so glad those days are gone and you are alone. It's like cosmic justice

>>81620853
Except it's the other way around, retard. Parasite foids financially dependent on men bleeding them dry in marriage and then walking away with all their shit because of biased divorce courts.

>>81620863
I don't think you have any options at all besides being a lonely virgin. You're acing that role with flying colours though

>>81620907
That's where you retards whores mistake things. A virgin(unless she's a retarded teenager)is infinitely harder to break than a whore
A wise virgin will get to know you for like 1 year before dating, then another 1-3 years dating to marry then only then you can have access to her. Meanwhile if you sweet talk a slut you can fuck her in the first date

>>81620913
Prenuptial agreements are for that.

>>81620827
>women don't suck but you do
Women and men both suck you delusional and insufferable retard. Enjoy being cat food.

>>81620924
Aww how cute, back to your favourite pastime of shaming men?
I'm not a virgin but thanks. I wish I was one however, I've wasted too much time on women that won't stick around and instead chase abusive fucks.

>>81620789
>doubles down on her imagination
women shouldn't vote.

>>81620416 (OP)
It's up to women what they want to do, stop whining about it.

>>81620722
>Sometimes they do
And sometimes they don't. Bringing us back to the original point: in order to be safe, you should never be financially dependent on your husband. You must always be able to survive and provide for your own, because you can't trust anyone else

>>81620697
>Beggars can't be choosers
Better not to be a beggar at all and not depend on your husband.
>Hey if you're a shitty person you can only have yourself to blame
It's amazing how you can't even conjecture the possibility that their family are the shitty people.
Blaming women for their misfortunes is all you do

>>81620964
Nta but blaming men for their misfortunes is all you do. Except men don't choose to be alone just because they're seen as boring, it's women making the choice to chase extroverted popular fucks who end up being abusive

>>81620930
>A virgin(unless she's a young and naive like most virgins)is infinitely harder to break
The opposite really. It's amazing how you sound like an abusive partner. It's for the greater good that you have no one.

Good morning I hate women.
>t. zoomzoom

>>81620972
Again with this incel bubble thinking? You're not boring, you are a straight up evil guy with so much bitterness and resentment towards women you would be the worst type of husband

>>81620935
Not all men though, just you. There are some great men are out there, but none of them hang out in incel boards.

>>81620481
GPT slop poster, have you no shame?

>>81620990
>you're evil if you don't simp for masculinized women who don't respect you!

>>81621013
The only way a woman would stay with you is if she had no other option. Let's pray that no girl is that unlucky. You deserve to be alone

>>81620949
Yeah sure, nowadays women can be financially independent. If that's what you want go ahead, even though most women want a man who will make more money than they do and will provide for them, it's ingrained in the female psyche. Men want to be providers, women want to be provided for. No matter how hard you deny it it's a fact. A lot of women willingly drop their careers simply because they can live comfortably on their husband's salary.
>>81620964
>Better not to be a beggar at all and not depend on your husband.
Yet women still choose to put themselves in this position.
>Blaming women for their misfortunes is all you do
Women are incapable of taking responsibility for their bad decisions.
>It's amazing how you can't even conjecture the possibility that their family are the shitty people.
So the entire family is made up of shitty people? Your friends are shitty people too who won't help you out? You know, if you're surrounded by assholes the chances are that you might be an asshole yourself.
>Blaming women for their misfortunes is all you do
Because women can do no wrong and they are incapable of making bad choices.

>>81620975
I explained to you, yet all you can say is no u
How is it the opposite? One you've to wait 2-4 years, be a good boyfriend, know her parents and family and etc. to fuck and the other you might fuck on the same night you met. Of course the emotional investment, attachment and affection would be worlds apart

>>81621006
kek I see im not the only one who noticed

>>81621022
I'm not the one who is delusional enough to think I'm a prize for an (actual) attractive person of the opposite gender. That's you sweaty.

>>81621006
>NNOOO YOU CAN'T JUST INSERT FEMALE OPINIONS WHERE THEY BELONG

>>81621004
>Just you
Untrue, you've been shaming every guy who disagrees with you here.

Yeah I'm sure there are great guys that earn a lot who would kiss your ass. You're right, that ain't me. And even if I was rich, I still wouldn't kiss your ass. If you want to be treated like a person, learn to treat a guy like a person too.
I'm out

Thank god I chose Chad thug life. I'm never marrying a hoe. Reading all this delusional woman excuses for their selfishness just makes me want to up my "haha bitch, cry harder" game.

>>81621004
you're right that not all men fit that description, and there are definitely great people out there. interestingly, you're also participating here, which shows that everyone has their own reasons for being part of these spaces. it's a complex mix, and conversations like this reflect that variety.

>>81620416 (OP)
It's actually
>being dependent on your husband who is dependent on his employer
vs
>being dependent on your employer
You're dependent on an employer either way

>>81621070
It really do be like dat. Even savingschads are subject to the whims of the (((Federal Reserve)))

>>81621070
The difference is that men have real jobs

>>81621070
That's actually a fair point, I'll give you this one.

>>81620754
Husband keeps the kid(s) lol ezpz

>>81621701
If men weren't simps, more than half of women already would lost their job at this point. Even basic AI from years ago can do what they do
>administrative assistant
>social worker
>HR
>communication
>counselor
All of those would disappear in a puff

>>81621729
What if you don't want to pay child support to him. No ther job forces you to have kids and pay for them forever

>>81620457
And yet the vast majority of women were measurably much happier and much more proud of their culture and lifestyle in the past.
That abuse will happen to someone somewhere is an inevitable fact of life. Perfect is the enemy of good.

>>81620457
>>81620735
>>81620789
women should be forced to have sex with nice guys at gunpoint

>>81621070
If I lose my job I still have 1 paid off house, 1 house I could pay off with just what I have in non-retirement investment accounts, and hundreds of thousands of dollars in other assets. My employer is as replaceable to me as I am to them. Would you ever get to that point or would you spend all your wages on clothes and travel?

>>81620735
If you beat a dog tell it bites someone, was it always a bad dog or was it put under bad circumstances tell it snapped? So many abusive guys were probably genuinely nice guys tell society and especially women abused them to the point where snapping was inevitable.

>>81620659
No answer to this yet because it cannot be refuted