normalfags love setting up hideous retards incels for failure so they can enjoy their laugh before finding new ways to humiliate you until you commit suicide

>>81632130 (OP)
Something about how innocently the bottom guy asks that breaks my heart.

chad doesn't wake up every morning with a mind set on self improving

admit it incel, you lost out on the genetic lottery and there is no redemption for you

>>81632137
>chad doesn't wake up every morning with a mind set on self improving
He does. He just considers going to the gym with his buds and having drinks after self-improoovement

>>81632130 (OP)
Hey man just don't talk about it and they won't give such garbage advice

>>81632149
>He just considers going to the gym with his buds and having drinks after self-improoovement
No, he never thinks of it in that way. To him, it's just living.

The notion isn't that Chad never improves, that's missing the point. Chad never had to sit down and decide to start doing (weird list of no fap shit) things to be in relationships and friendships. He's been in both multiple times before adolescence. The baseline existence for Chad is eight tiers higher than some weirdo that has to gather all of his determination to talk to one girl.

Girls want to talk to Chad. He plays (and trains for) sports because his friends play them too and he enjoys the camaraderie He is constantly improving his social skills because everyone wants to talk to him. In short, he's normal.

>>81632203
I mean, yeah. It's intuitive to him. But if you asked him, he'd still tell you he's self-improooved his entire life. He gets the same gratification from gymming that mid-tier normies and gymcels do. The difference is that it's not cope for him, he's already attractive to women, and that makes him 10% more attractive. And he doesn't have to force himself to go the gym or social events. Even if he, some fucking how, gets into a slump, he has people willing to drag him out of the house.

No, we say things like "just b urself" and "have confidence" because that actually, genuinely works for like 4/5 loser men.
Yes, there is always going to be that 1/5 that are completely unredeemable, which is why I think we should back off of them and invest in things like anime and computer games to keep them happy and away from society.

>>81632130 (OP)
>sets "will it change the fact I'm an incel" as the criteria for whether or not anything in life is worth doing
>nothing does
>does nothing
>becomes exponentially more miserable than any amount of loneliness can adequately explain across an entire adolescence/early/mid 20s wasted on not developing even the most basic forms of healthy habits, creative pursuits, work ethic or any other excuse to do something instead of just stewing in the house all day doing nothing
>this is the normie's fault

>>81632137
Genuinely difficult to think up something more utterly zogpilled and gay than the idea that redemption doesn't exist. You are here to live until you die and for the vast majority of people who've ever lived that doesn't mean much of anything. You can waste it on never even trying or you can try. Why would some fucking faggot on 4chan who only wants to see me miserable be part of the equation?
>but muh it doesn't get you a gf
Do it anyway. Why are you people such limp-wristed Jewish manbabies about fucking everything?

>>81632137
I'm convinced some of you guys actually have some weird sexual fetish about this. So you aren't supposed to improve at all? What about the guys who are 6/10-7/10 and could improve to an 8/10? LOL. Should you just be like "Oh I'm not a chad guess I'll just hang myself"

>>81633329
Your positivity is somewhat dampened by your slurs and hostile attitude. That's an odd choice to attempt to be motivational

>>81633455
Improving from a 3 to a 3.5 is sadly more often the case

>>81632130 (OP)
incels aren't hideous, there's years of evidence about it

>>81632340
This unmatched dehumanization and palliative mentality is exactly what will encourage mass shootings among other acts of terrorism. Deserved.

>>81633455
>Should you just be like "Oh I'm not a chad guess I'll just hang myself"
Fucking duh? Being too much of a coward to commit suicide doesn't make that untrue.

of course, how did you find out?

>>81632137
This is the most perfect post right here and it cannot be refuted. I used to go to the gym to atleast try and improve my life, but then I asked myself "wait, those popular students in my school never had to self improve" and then I got hit smack dab in the face with the ultimate blackpill: genetics. Those popular kids in high school never had to le self improve in order to fit in. They were already like that from birth due to good genetics. Everything just happened naturally for them. Meanwhile I have to fight tooth and nail just to have a CHANCE at talking to a 7 or even a 6. If you have to self improve and put in any kind of effort in the first place to fit in with the popular crowd, you basically already lost. It's all genetics. They really do determine everything. No point in working to get le big muscles if I have a weird looking face.

>>81633455
>So you aren't supposed to improve at all?
That is correct

>>81632137
>genetic lottery
Nah, it's just shitty upbringing. Not that many are barred from having at least a decent life just based on their looks. It's most often just a cope.

>>81632130 (OP)
I dated multiple guys I knew weren't conventionally attractive because (I thought) they were good people and deserved love just like anybody else. I wasn't just dating them out of pity though, I really did grow romantically attached to them and didn't even once dream of cheating on them. I loved them truly.
The first one cheated on me with a girl and later dumped me for her when I tried to forgive and move on.
The second one just ghosted me outright.
The third one got mad at me for not quitting my job to essentially be his live-in slave and dumped me.

Lesson: Do not give ugly guys a chance. Inflate their egos a little bit and they become monstrous.