Why does American health care system punish people for having kids?

Why are you okay with this American anons

>>81638000 (OP)
Having children is evil and breeders should pay so much more.

>>81638000 (OP)
How the fuck do you expect to raise a kid and you don't have 9k to swing around? This bitch is going to be a terrible parent. Fucking depressing if this is real and yet another kid has to suffer because their parents are lazy and broke.

You used hospital resources to have that baby, pay up you lazy freeloader. You can have babies at home free of charge if you wanted too.

9k is worth it. bitch could've died giving birth. though i think all vtubers should kill themselves, i still send her my prayers.

>>81638000 (OP)
>Vegetable_itsover9000.png

>>81638000 (OP)
Ok so explain how poor niggers have 10+ children then.

>>81638062
In America of your under a certain income bracket the US govt will give you free medical care , food stamps , rent subsidies and other welfare programs. But if you make more than whats considered poor by us govt standards you wont get accesses to these benefits at all.

>>81638000 (OP)
1. how else are the doctors and nurses going to get paid? how is the equipment going to be bought?
2. have insurance
3. too poor for insurance? the government will give it to you for free and everything is 100% covered

>>81638000 (OP)
Americans are stupid. You can pay a midwife a couple hundred bucks and pop that thing out in a bathtub like your ancestors did. They also won't threaten to call CPS if you refuse the taking of your son's penis tip + tax + tip for Dr. Shekelberg

>>81638093
that's not true for health insurance, if you are no longer in the free/medicaid bracket then you may still be eligible for subsidized health insurance, which means your monthly premium could be anywhere from $0 to full price, but now you start paying copays and junk

>tfw spent the grocery money on rgb keyboards and funko pops again
why is amerikkka literally trying to kill me and my child?

>>81638000 (OP)
>boo hoo I chose to get pregnant and I chose to not get an abortion and I chose to give birth in a hospital and now IT COSTS MONEY?!?!?! wah wah wah

>>81638149
This, everything should cost money, the condom, the pill, the abortion, the birth. Dont wanna pay? Dont have sex

>>81638093
certain income bracket = no income bracket

if you make 14 an hour which is not nearly enough to live on you make too much money for any kind of financial help from the government

>>81638166
Isnt it like under 30k or something but it ranges from state to state. >>81638124
Isnt this state by state basis though? Some states will probably not offer any sort of reduced health care insurance options.

>>81638166
Stop living in a flyover state. 60k is considered poverty tier in my shitlib state and you qualify for free healthcare.

>>81638096
>giving birth in a hospital is a dumb idea
most sane most on 4chan ever

>>81638163
Its not a matter of should, it does. Money = energy. Communist faggots don't seem to understand this. Fundementally, energy can not be created from thin air.

>>81638235
The vast majority of normalfags would consider birthing at home in 2025 insanity. Merely stating you don't approve of circumcision will make them assume you're a conspiracy theorist at best.

>>81638028
those 2 days occupying a room and a few hours from 25.00 dollar an hour nurses serving 27 people cost the hospital 27 million dollars. sorry goy. Think next time before fulfilling your biological mission. Think how much door dash we could have provided with that many good goy points.

>>81638298
You know whats mor infuriating is fact that republicans will go about decreasing white population but wont make having kids easier for middle class. Reduced working hours , subsidized child care , cheap healthcare and kid friendly places. They would rather send billions to Israel than invest into their own communities that are dying from opioid addiction since all jobs were shipped to China.


But muh communism

>>81638265
the point is you're retarded

>>81638350
How many times were you vaxxed?

>>81638060
IT'S OVER NINE-THOUSAAAAAAAAND!!!1

>>81638361
>le epil vaccines will kill you anyday wahahaha!
2 more weeks. The red deer prophecy is upon us!

>>81638350
Nah.
>>81638381
quadruple vaxxed. Meanwhile I was never vaxxed and I never died or got hospitalized.
>inb4 you pretend that wasn't the exact narrative in 2020

>>81638000 (OP)
if you don't have a cool $9k prepared you shouldn't have a kid thoughbeit

>>81638381
Oh btw, its just objective fact that if you got the vaccine you are a normalfag. Its literally what seperates robots from the normalfaggots.

>>81638408
Yeah /pol/ has been deadwrong about basically everything since 2020 lol
>>81638421
>you have to be a conspiracytard to be a robot
lol no. There are plenty of intelligent incels and conspiracytard normalfags.

>>81638417
>if you make a mistake your life and children should have their lives ruined
only in the USA!

>>81638000 (OP)
>Why does American health care system punish people for having kids?
don't americans make like 100k a year? i make only 20k in europe and i can barely scrap by, meanwhile, it takes months for a doctor's appointment because it's booked when it's free and funded by the state.

>>81638000 (OP)
niggers and spics pop out dozens of kids thoughbeit

>>81638432
Its not a conspiracy, its the fact that you got vaccinated for covid. You are a fucking normalfag, next you'll tell me you have a 9-5, a gf, a apartment to yourself and still pretend you are anything but a normalfaggot.

its literally just the fact that society peer pressured you into leaving your house to get vaccination that did literally nothing. You lost the test, you got peer pressured by society, you are a normalfag. Simple as.

>>81638447
No actually I just think you shouldn't have kids unless you're prepared. If you don't have like $20k saved you're being irresponsible.

>>81638447
>not having 9k
>a mistake

Also 9k is not life ruining debt for anyone who should be having a child.

>>81638000 (OP)
Because white people need to stop having children pronto. We are meant to serve the Jew and work for their interests, not our own. We must work harder and die for them.

>>81638482
>all the world leaders and the world's scientists of enemy governments all agree the vaccines were effective... but like they hid that for some reason... i swear

>>81638495
If even half of humans thought like that humans would've gone extinct long time ago.

>>81638000 (OP)
It's an evil jewish system and it's total collapse can't come soon enough

>>81638495
I think anyone having children right now are subhuman IQ, but that doesn't mean they should have their lives or children's lives ruined, which is OP's point.

>>81638523
>All the leaders of normalfaggots world wide said it was good so it is good
A literal normalfaggot. You blindly follow authority figures and peer pressure. The definition of a normalfaggot. I know you're a normalfaggot so this won't get through your fat thick retard skill but you're normal. Nothing unique or strange about you. You are literally a NPC.

Oh yeah and its super effective, so effective that everyone who never got a the shot never got sick or died and are still living perfectly fine.

I just can't imagine the thought proccess of a normalfaggot like you. Like, when they advertise McDonalds on tv do you get hungry? When they tell you that your tax dollars are being used wisely do you nod and agree? When 10 of your friends tell you that its warm outside, you do just go along with it even though you're cold? Or does it physically effect your mind so that you were cold but once your hive mind agreed it was warm you suddenly felt warm?

>>81638588
9k is not a lot of money though, especially not for americans. What's the problem? Insane entitlement going on here.

>>81638597
>ha! i bet you believe this thing you didn't say!
uhhh lol

>>81638611
>I live in a favela so you should be able to afford to dump 20% of your salary into the ether
no. we can do better than that.

>>81638633
This is literally what you said, meanwhile you're claiming I ever pushed or believed the red deer narrative.

Does she not have insurance? It only cost me $2k when my kid was born a few years ago. Also it's a hospital bill. Just pay like $20 a month until they just write the debt off after a few years.

>>81638000 (OP)
Stop being poor, simple as

>>81638650
>20% of your salary
You shouldn't be having children at a hospital then. Also take into account it takes two people to have children so in the modern era thats 10% of your salary depending on how much your husband makes

>>81638652
/pol/tards do think very alike. Obviously the vaccines were well worthwhile, so you guys dropped that narrative. Nobody in history has said that 20-year-olds would die from not being vaccinated though.
>>81638678
>just risk you or your baby dying at home
Nah, I think we can do better than that.

>>81638699
>Obviously the vaccines were well worthwhile
Factually incorrect.
>you're a /pol/
see >>81638633
You're a disingenuous normalfaggot.

>>81638673
How many children do you have, genuine question?

>>81638699
so you think everyone should pay 10% of their income (in taxes) instead of the people having a baby? This is better for you? typical socialist.

>>81638699
>Humans have children for 299,950 without hospitals
>you are going to die if you don't have a child in a hospital
Kek, you're a complete normalfaggot. Literally your mind is permanently ingrained into the system.

>>81638721
1 so far but im gonna creampie my wife every day this month so in a year hopefully 2

>>81638722
Yes, this anon >>81638673 who has never even gotten a kiss from a woman should pay the hospital bill for the vtuber(who already extracts wealth from simps) so that she can have children with chad. This is the socialists wet dream. Government backed cuckoldry.

>>81638298
get your money up not your funny up

>>81638673
Either fake or you just got lucky gambling. Many 10s of thousands more lost their wealth from gambling. I also can't imagine being that fortunate and just spending my days on /r9k/ lol.
>>81638722
>le spoopy socialist boogeyman
The US spends ~2x as much on healthcare per capita compared to other high-income countries.
>>81638740
>we used to lick rocks for calories, why not just do it today in the richest country in the world?
Nah, I think we can do better than that.

>>81638000 (OP)
Thats good because actually keeps trash from having children without having conditions eventually dragging society down with welfare and tons of other problems like criminals

>>81638777
>we use to lick rocks for calories
Objectively false but I do put rocks on pretty much every meal I prepare and so do you fucking retard.

>>81638759
>"why don't you think of the rich?" but unironically
lmao
>>81638793
>"what is hyperbole?"
>thinks minerals are rocks
oof

>>81638231
My family refuses to leave this shit hole and I can't save enough money to leave anymore

>>81638777
930k isnt that crazy and there are a lot of 30-40 year old boomers who grinded out a mil over 2+ decades or trust fund babies who started on third base

>>81638819
>why don't you think of the rich
>it personally benefits my oshii so I should fuck over everyone else
kek nah, I'm not a fan of state sanction cuckoldry.
>hyperbole
Nah. You are genuinly that retarded and dishonest/disengenous
>look guys I watch anime so I'm soo not a normalfaggot
You specifically came onto 4chan to shill your political ideology and have done nothing but exemplify why socialism is the ideology of normalfaggots.

>>81638673
man you have that much money in your account and you come here to bant with us losers and faggots

>>81638000 (OP)
9k is nothing, especially compared to the cost of just taking care of a kid. Poor people getting rude wake-up calls, if you don't have at least 30-50k in savings there's no way you should be breeding at all. You're just too young, or too much of a failure to be raising children.

>>81638000 (OP)
sorry moomi star being poor isnt cute if u have little kids especially if u was a whore and now ur a single mom
now u gonna learn how it is to be a man cause ur fertility went to shit and now its how people will see you
you are gonna see how ur stupid whore ways were pedophelic as fuck when u have to compromise your childs safety constantly due to being poor!!!!! hope u dont have drug issues cause that too!!!!! if you have bad drug issues your child is better off in the care of a foster home and i mean this seriously!!!!! if you couldnt afford fifty thousand dollars of expenses you should NOT have birthed in a hospital and you should have hired a midwife!!!!! or had your husband take care of it!!!!! this is why people arnt fucking gay and get married even tho women used to get brutally beaten by their husbands since fifty years ago in most cases!!!!!
>>81638062
if you own ANY land in a place which actually lets you have rights you can easily afford this by building your own house you dont even need government support since food is cheap in a lot of cases especially when your wife cooks large meals

>>81638834
Yeah you can be incredibly lucky in other ways but usually boomers aren't wasting their days away on /r9k/.
>>81638867
>anti-vaxx
>bootlicker
>doesn't know 3rd grade level geology
>believes almost every developed nation is socialist
lolol

>>81638834
He's a loser, he doesn't save money or invest it. Fuck, I'm a NEET and I've managed to turn the 2k I got from working years ago into 10k by just investing it for 10 years. I've literally just sat on my ass and done nothing, if I had a low paying job I'd have half a mill by now I think. If I had a high paying job I'd have nearly 2 million.

The average net worth of an American household is over 1milli, y'all are just poors because you NEET'd and needed meds to get out of bed in the morning.

>>81638888
>land
Taxes
>build your own house
Thats not cheap at all, plus it increases your property taxes.
>food is cheap
not that cheap.

No, niggers in America are for the most part not homesteaders out there building properties and maintaining food gardens lol.

>>81638916
>If I made a lot of money I'd have a lot of money
insightful
>>81638933
>thinks individual and household are the same
oof, also the average American is vastly older than the average 4caca

>>81638938
any place w rights doesnt have high taxes

>>81638933
where are you getting this from?

>>81638902
>but all the world leaders said so
>calls someone else a bootlicker
>you must pay for other peoples hospital vacations
>having children outside of the corporate hospitals is backwards and immoral
>calls someone else a bootlicker again
>got peer pressured into getting vaccinated
>clearly made this thread to complain about capitalism and push a socialist narrative
>immediately gets mad at the one slightly rich anon
>if I just post more anime reaction images from anime I've never watched they'll think I belong
top kek

>>81638944
>if I made a lot of money
Are you illiterate? I said if I didn't make much money I would still have a lot of money. Around 500k.

>>81638944
>older people are wealthier
Wow, very smart. It is a shame that we don't pay for other peoples hospital visits. How else are 16 year old supposed to afford kids?

>>81638960
Your image is the median, not the average.

>>81638960
The median is 200k
Still incredibly wealthy, to the point that 9k would set you back like a month at most.

>>81638982
>you don't get it, Russia, China, Iran, etc. all have good reason to never be anti-American vaccines, but it can't be because the vaccines are actually fine
What is the /pol/tard explanation? I'm not OP btw.
>>81639008
>I live with my parents so I can save more money
wait really?
>>81639022
>very smart
Yeah you missed that entirely lol. The average American networth has no relevance to the perspective of the gambler itt.
>>81639032
It doesn't say median, but the median is all that's relevant lol.
>>81639057
That's still for someone much older than your average mother lol.

>>81638000 (OP)
Cause money robot money speaks in America more then words why else do you think wages are dogshit

>>81639066
>the global elite pushed the vaccine therefore its fine
We get it you're a bootlicker. What is your actual explanation over the fact that vaccines did nothing. Also this is all moving the goalpost from the fact that you're a normalfag peer pressured into taking a vaccine.

>wait really
>nooooo you have to leave your parents house when you turn 18 or its not fair
Another reason poorfag irresponsible parents shouldn't have children

>the only way you can make a million dollars is gambling
You're very retarded and out of touch

>the median
The median shows the average household makes 200k a year. Thats a fuck ton of money. 9k ain't shit on 200k. Oh no, they're going to have to cut back on buying fancy shoes and maybe they won't be able to afford take out sushi for a couple months

>>81639066
>still for someone much older than you
Yes, people who live longer usually accumulate more wealth. Crazy. its as if 9k isn't life ruining as you imply.

>>81639127
I'm just saying there are plenty of incels who are intelligent who don't believe on faith in a shadowy global cabal.
>you have to leave your parents house
Who are you quoting?
>gambling
If you're a young 4channer and supposedly have huge living expenses, yeah it's pretty likely. You could be incredibly lucky some other way, but he stopped responding he was probably just faking it.
What do you think household networth is btw?
>>81639154
Do you think networth is just a savings account?

>>81639240
>I'm just saying there are plenty of incels
I'm just saying this isn't an incel board and that you're a normalfaggot. Thats it. The vax was a litmus test of normalfaggotry and you clearly failed.
>who are you qouting
you
>if you're a 4channer and rich its highly likely you're a gambler
No, this is pure bullshit and conjecture but I'm glad your finally implying that you're nor from here.
>he stopped responding
No he didn't. You're just a faggot and a retard coming up with strawman.
>household net worth
Very self explanatory.
>do you think net worth is just a savings account
No, its your net worth, it accounts for all of your assets. So how is 9k life ruining? Its not. Ignoring all the other very important parts of all this including the FACT you don't have to have children at the hospital.

>>81639240
Also what is your solution to this? Universal healthcare? Literally cuck other people with taxes into paying for other peoples shit. I disagree with this on a fundemental level. I don't want to pay for chads wife to have a luxury birthing vacation or for Quenisha's stent surgery.

>>81638028
>You used hospital resources to have that baby, pay up you lazy freeloader
I agree, but prices are extremely gouged in the medical industry. Not just from the hospitals, from the suppliers too.

>>81639362
Sue for price gouging.

>>81639316
>this isn't an incel board
Yep, robots are incredibly rare. Where did he respond? I never implied I wasn't from here lol. If you knew household networth was you'd know obviously you can't just liquidate it with ease, and if you're living at home your networth you can actually spend is completely irrelevant to the household's networth.
>>81639334
>paying half of what we currently do is cuckoldry
How boring, do you have any attempt at an argument?

>>81639375
>Just go against teams of top tier lawyers, bro
C'mon, now.

>>81639362
This is because of government-mandated insurance so every price of every good and service has to be negotiated between multiple levels of redundant beaurocracy.

Ban insurance. It's either degenerate gambling or an extraction layer disguised as risk mitigation.

>>81639386
Robots and incels are different things. All robots are incels, not all incels are robots.
>where did he respond
When he talked about his kid. Another normalfag.

>i never implied I wasn't from here
Yes you did. You talked about 4channers in third perspective
>those humans suck so much, they can't help it humans are just dumb monkeys
This heavily implies you're not a human.

>you can't liquidate with ease
Net worth also accounts for liquid assets and cash. So no, you can.

>muh state funding programs
Do you? Saying "how boring" isn't an argument.
Why should I theoretically have to pay someone else's birth?
>but you're not paying because you're rich
But if I was theoretically why would that be morally just
>inb4 muh embarrassed millionaire
But even if its not personally benefiting me how does that justify the immorality of it?

>>81639481
>All robots are incels

>>81639424
Yes. Do you know how much money a poor lawyer could get off a solid case of medial pride gouging. The real reason it hasn't happened is because the very second you do threaten to sue for that they lower their prices.
You know you can even negotiate the price itself in reality but normalfags are too ingrained in the syetem to realize this. Its literally bartering.

Best part is if you try to barter with them and say you can't pay its faster for them to just sell your debt to a debt collecter. Thats when the real fun begins. Again, all of this does not compute in the mind of a normalfag. They get a bill and something in their mind tells them they will be sent to prison/killed if they don't pay.

Kind of the same way normalfags will walk into a mugging because they're too afraid to do a social faux pass such as crossing the street when walking past a group of rough looking niggers.

>>81639517
If you're not a virgin you're not a robot. Sorry faggot, this has been the rule for the last decade.

>>81638888
Shut the fuck up, retarded namefag.Fuck off to tumblr