why did god create satan?

because he had to create free will and with free will there has to be an evil and good choice

why did god create 'batin?

dude just likes fucking around
the bible is a shitpost and he's having a big laugh at us for getting baited by it

>>81654855 (OP)
Satan represents rational thought, and its propensity to fall in love with itself. Lucifer literally means light bringer, a motif used to represent consciousness and knowledge, enlightenment and the metaphorical sense of illumination. Satan was one of the highest angels until he decided that he could do without God, the transcendent ideal. We see the same thing in people who believe they can disregard anything outside their own thought, and confidently walk off a cliff. An example is communism: sounds good; doesn't work. Doesn't matter how much you want it to, and it doesn't matter how many arguments you put forward in its favour. It doesn't work. End of conversation. It's why utilitarianism and believing SOLELY in science and materialism doesn't work. Yes, scientific understanding produces good artefacts of knowledge, but if we want to use them then we need to stitch them together with common sense, morality, etc.

>>81654855 (OP) Satan is the world. It was created for you to realize who you really are.

>>81654889
>Satan offers you enlightenment and wisdom
>Yahweh offers you fuck all nothing, but keep obeying him

>also let's throw in "communism bad" because why not?

>>81654877
based gnostic chungus

>>81654861
>god
>had to
And I thought that god was meant to be omnipotent.

>>81655547
Only when you ask how cool he is, then he can do anything.

When you ask why he can't help anyone, his powers are extremely limited and he wants you to help yourself.

>>81654855 (OP)
if you actually read the old testament god isn't actually all powerful at all

>>81655547
>>81654855 (OP)
its pointless to argue, they follow their twisted logic.

>>81654855 (OP)
Satan isn't real
>>81654861
Free will cannot coexist with God's divine knowledge

>>81655475
It's like you can't even read haha

>Yaweh offers you fuck all
Is adventure, truth, a good life, meaning, fulfilment, etc. not good enough for you? Have fun with your intellectual arrogance and lack of humility, I'm sure it won't backfire horribly!

>communism bad
You are correct.

>>81654855 (OP)
why did stacy ignoring me turned my into an incel?
No good deed goes unpunished......

>>81655547
God didn't have to create free will but if there was no free will then we wouldn't exist and it's self evident that we are supposed to have that because if we weren't then we wouldn't.

>>81655570
>I can understand an immutable being
The idea that God should "help" you with whatever worldly issues you have is total hubris and projects humanity onto a being which is utterly incomprehensible. If God even has motives then you almost certainly cannot imagine them.
You have no idea what happens after death either because you can't possibly know.

>>81654855 (OP)
Something something temptation something something needing to prove being worthy of going to heaven

>>81655788
Considering that god gave women painful childbirth and took away legs from snakes due to people disobeying him and fucking up his plans, then I wouldn't be too sure about god's other intentions. At least he gave us rainbows to remind us of his promise to not try to wipe everyone by drowning again.

>>81654855 (OP)
because lucifer was a hot femboy with a juicy bussy

>>81655847
>due to people disobeying him and fucking up his plans,
Strawman.
>gave women painful childbirth
God did do that. Women even die during childbirth. However, if this were so problematic then it would have been selected against by evolutionary pressure. It is self evident that the mechanism which causes childbirth to be so difficult has benefits which may not be immediately apparent.
>I wouldn't be too sure about god's other intentions.
My entire post was saying that you can't even begin to understand God's intentions, if there even are any. A mistake you see constantly is people humanizing God but God is decidedly not human. I do think we might be a reflection of God, in the same way you can project a 3d object into 2d, but that leaves entire dimensions of God which are alien to us. Try and imagine existing in 4 dimensions instead of 3 now try 33 dimensions: it's impossible and this is what you are doing when you try to understand God

>>81655919
>God is decidedly not human
The fuck is Jesus meant to be then?
>it's impossible and this is what you are doing when you try to understand God
If it's impossible, then it is because god made it impossible. Weird that god acts like an emotionally unstable woman that can't communicate clearly and properly.

>>81655974
When did I say I was a Christian? Although, to the extent that we are an image of God, Jesus is just the perfect version of that image. Jesus prayed to God so it is self evident that Jesus was not God as God and the trinity doesn't argue that he is either.
>then it is because god made it impossible
In the same way we can understand a projection of 3d onto 2d onto 1d we can understand 4d (or more) onto 3d. At the very least, God is immutable ie God exists in all time constantly. We experience time and can "flatten" time in the same way we can "flatten" a 3d object onto 2d to understand it but this isn't the same as being omnipresent. So maybe it is possible, I don't know.
However, it is decidedly not easy and certainly cannot be understood in worldly terms. Imagine a 2d being complaining that there is an obstacle before them but you, as a 3d being, can see a simple way to sidestep it and go around. God, as an omnipresent being, would see our issues in the same light and, moreover, there may be consequences to the "resolution" we desire (such as moving the 2d obstacle in 3d) which we cannot see, at least not without deep thought.
>can't communicate clearly and properly
Perhaps such communication would compromise the ends or perhaps they are trying to and we simply don't understand it,

>>81656283
>When did I say I was a Christian
Nowhere as far as I remember. OP refers to Satan specifically, which is most commonly referred to in a christian context, thus it's the context I was using.
>trinity doesn't argue that he is either.
What do you mean? You're saying that Jesus isn't part of the trinity? Or that trinity isn't part of god? Doesn't fit any definition of trinity I'm aware of.
>perhaps they are trying to and we simply don't understand it
So much for omnipotent again. Maybe I just have way too high of expectations.

>>81656394
it is required to post text but the image is what i want to say

>>81656587
In which case The Son is Jesus and therefore Jesus is god?

Satan isn't even that powerful at all. We humans gave him too much power

To create the greatest army the universe will ever see

>>81656795
when you say god you mean the father in the trinity

>>81654855 (OP)
WHY DID GOD CREATE A 5'3 BROWN SEA MONKEY LIKE ME WITH A SMOL PENIS?

>>81657057
You're cursed. Break the curse and your children will carry on your genes amd make them stronger curse free

>>81655709
>t. someone who hasn't been raped and forced to cut up someone else with a machete under threat of death
>t. also someone who hasn't been cut up with a machete as a defenseless child
at least they had an adventure right?

>>81654855 (OP)
God created me peener so that I could put me peener en teh vageener