What does this actually mean? Is this even true? In what way does being a nice guy work against you and is it?

And please put in more work than "women are le chad only"

It's not referring to romance but to life in general. It's an old saying from the 1940s that mainly referred to oil tycoons and other rich billionaires.

>>81668782 (OP)
thats exactly what it means, nice doesn't just mean being kind, being humble, etc. - it's also about being passive, not being agrressive enough to get what you want

you tell yourself, "i'll talk to her when the time is right" and you wait and wait and wait, eventually she gets a bf and you seethe all night
it's your fault entirely, you were afraid of taking risks, afraid of approaching her and taking what you think was rightfully yours

>>81668807
Shitty wording on my part; oil tycoons and other predatory rich people weren't the 'nice guys,' obviously - they were successful assholes, with the 'nice guys' being more like mom and pop shop owners that never did anything unethical to screw over others and seize power.

>>81668782 (OP)
it means chad fucks and betabux.

https://youtu.be/-uU6KzAbSTg?si=oB8UkAESVeeouc3g

>>81668782 (OP)
It means narcissists win unless you shove them into the dirt, which is not a nice thing to do.
>it's your fault entirely, you were afraid of taking risks, afraid of approaching her and taking what you think was rightfully yours
It's inherently antisocial to see women as inferiors and reduce all their concerns about asserting boundaries to feminine dithering. Women discouraging men from feeling entitled to anything basically made narcissists the holdout of masculinity, which forced regular guys into adopting their outlook and approach.

>>81668852
i will also add it's from a song, the full line is "nice guys finish last, mean guys have a blast"

>>81668782 (OP)
Nice guys don't finish last. Ugly men finish last.

>>81668918
i'm not saying women are inferior (i am), i'm saying women are not our equal - they're like children, and we as men protect and care for our children
but sometimes we must also punish our children

>>81668936
actually that's from hey arnold

>>81668981
Do what you have to do anon, but I'm not playing these games

>>81669064
>games
it's not a fucking game, its your life and mine
the basis of modern society, the one we fucking live in, was built upon capitalism and capitalism promotes aggressiveness and ruthlesness in the pursuit of materials

the current societal norm is based on aggressiveness, action whereas non-action aka doing nothing paints a target on your back that says "failure"

>>81669106
>doing nothing paints a target on your back that says "failure"
Yup. The only difference is, I don't care

>>81669139
>I don't care
so you don't get to complain when they fuck you over

see you at the finish line, anon

>>81669159
>oh no my external validation
You can't offer me anything anon. You can't even terrify me into falling in line. Maybe I find my way, maybe I don't. But I want my own path and not to run someone else's race in an amoral and vicious capitalist society that reduces women to spoiled children. That shouldn't bother you. But don't expect me to suck down your ridiculous logical fallacies, you make peace with your gods yourself.

>>81669243
i'm not telling you to do anything, anon
i'm just saying my piece

irl, we may be night and day but on this board we're equals - i'm here too, nigger
>But I want my own path and not to run someone else's race in an amoral and vicious capitalist society that reduces women to spoiled children
thats good, keep your wits about and be steadfast and true to yourself

i've been fucked over the system so many times i'm just an angry old man now

>>81668782 (OP)
It doesn't for a sea monkey like me. Even when I'm nice no women want to be near me

>>81669285
>It doesn't
*It doesn't matter

>>81669273
>>81669273
>thats good, keep your wits about and be steadfast and true to yourself
Thank you anon. I'll do my best. Take care of yourself too. I know it's rough out there.

>>81668782 (OP)
By nice they mean that meek type that gets used. I'm perfectly nice to people but I don't take shit and have self respect. People like nice people, I do as well.

>>81668782 (OP)
If you primarily put others before yourself, you'll never get what you want. Good life outcomes are associated with a certain level of greed, selfishness, and arrogance. Most managers and ceos score much higher in sociopathy than the general population. The richest people in the world generally score as high on sociopathy as prisoners and career criminals. The phrase "nice guys finish last" is simply women recognizing this fact.

>>81668782 (OP)
Being nice always takes more effort than being mean, and certain accomplishments require being mean. It's the harder path to be morally righteous.

>>81669453
>>81670142
these anons get it

>>81668782 (OP)
>And please put in more work than "women are le chad only"
Except that's basically it. Women don't give a shit how nice you are to them, if they aren't attracted to you then you will get nowhere.

>>81668782 (OP)
>implying nice guys finish at all