I think I'm just going to pay for sex to lose my virginity and get things started rolling

>>81689695 (OP)
You'll always regret it

>>81689695 (OP)
>dont be a fatass
>go outside
>talk to women

Wow anon

>>81689699
People regret losing virginity all the time so I don't think it's going to be any different for me

>>81689701
You're forgetting the other 50 million requirements plus the $200-500 first couple of dates (downpayment) before you get a chance.

>>81689728
>other requirements
Like what? Taking a shower?

>$200-$500
Oh so you're trying to lose your viriginity to a crack whore? Not even an escort who looks cute and regularly bathes? Grim

>>81689695 (OP)
your first mistake is thinking that it takes effort to lose your virginity

>>81689760
> Make above a certain amount
> Be college educated or above
> Be above average height
> Have at least years of progress in the gym
> Have your own place
> Make sure your political views aligns with hers
> Have the "right" hobbies
> Plan the date (do several times)
> Date most cost above certain amount
> Carry the conversation (bc most girls nowadays don't know how to interact with another human)
> Give gifts
> etc

Oh, and mess up one of those things and now you're considered as a "red flag".

> Oh so you're trying to lose your viriginity to a crack whore?
Nigger look up how much foods costs and then multiply that by the amount of dates and gift you have to give before they're "comfortable" with you to let you have a chance

>>81689701
Maybe works if you're such a GigaChad that women will literally get wet from seeing you and will ask you to fuck them soon enough. You can't just not be fat, go outside and talk to women and expect stuff to happen. I mean, I wouldn't still be a virgin if things worked that way.
For the vast majority of people, there is a lot of effort, risk and spending involved. And because women find 80% of men unattractive, you'll mostly be fighting an uphill battle to make yourself appeal to someone who is NOT attracted to you by default.
Imagine you had a 3/10 woman who you'd never consider a good match and who doesn't give you boners, relentlessly showering you with attention, dates and gifts. Maybe you'd accept her given all the free shit you get from her, but as soon as you had something better available, you'd go for that instead.
OP is right. It's not worth it. You're much better off completely ignoring women and focusing on your own health and well-being. Ignoring women and not giving a shit about attracting them is actually making me rich, becaue I can live my life a lot more minimalistically.

>>81689808
It does and it's the reason why 2/3 of gen z guys are still virgins. Gen Z women expect much more than the average male can output in various aspects.

>>81689808
Either that or just be a Chad and you'll get pass or massive discount on the effort you have to exert

>>81689855
> Imagine you had a 3/10 woman who you'd never consider a good match and who doesn't give you boners, relentlessly showering you with attention, dates and gifts. Maybe you'd accept her given all the free shit you get from her, but as soon as you had something better available, you'd go for that instead.
Exactly this. Most women will gladly accept your gifts, dates, and attention but h they'll never bother doing anything more than that.

> inb4 not a trucel if you don't want a 3/10
I'm not spending nearly half a $1000, waste multiple months, and a ridiculous amount of effort on something that barely looks humans. I'd rather just pay a quick buck to a desperate girl and skip all that BS.

>>81689842
> Make above a certain amount
Yeah anon, you hould have a job
> Be college educated or above
Yeah uneducated trailer trash are well-known for not breeding
> Be above average height
You dumbasses really believe that short guys don't date women?
> Have at least years of progress in the gym
You should be going to the gym, anon. Not for pussy but for yourself
> Have your own place
Anon... you are making basic steps towards adulthood and independence right? First the job thing and now this...
> Make sure your political views aligns with hers
Or just keep your mouth shut like a normal person. I know 90% of you guys are Nazis, but can't you hold it in for like 1 hour on a date?
> Have the "right" hobbies
Anon... you don't have to tell her about your loli hentai collection. Just say you like sports or some shit.
> Plan the date (do several times)
"Hey let's go to the movies" Wow so much effort
> Date most cost above certain amount
This isn't true at all
> Carry the conversation (bc most girls nowadays don't know how to interact with another human)
Have you considered that the conversations feel one-sided because she wasn't interested in talking to you?
> Give gifts
Uh yeah that would be nice
> etc
"Am I wrong? No it's the whole world!"

>>81689942
> Yeah anon, you hould have a job
They want a guy that make $90,000-$100,000 which is practically impossible in your early 20s
> Yeah uneducated trailer trash are well-known for not breeding
The birth rate in the US is way below replacement
> You dumbasses really believe that short guys don't date women?
Yeah they don't and that's not even debatable at this point
> You should be going to the gym, anon. Not for pussy but for yourself
Literally doesn't matter. You're expected to look like a body builder or have a "dad bod"
> Anon... you are making basic steps towards adulthood and independence right? First the job thing and now this...
Nigger the only people that can afford to have their own place in their early 20s are those who are being given money by their mommies and daddies
> Or just keep your mouth shut like a normal person. I know 90% of you guys are Nazis, but can't you hold it in for like 1 hour on a date?
Again, nigger. You can agree with them on everything expect one thing and they'll discard you
> Anon... you don't have to tell her about your loli hentai collection. Just say you like sports or some shit.
Straw man and the "right" hobbies isn't always something related to sports. It has to be something they personally approve of.
> "Hey let's go to the movies" Wow so much effort
You honestly sound like a boomer or millennial. Coffee, hikes, fast food, certain restaurants, and movies dates are what's considered low effort and practically all girls will ghost you if you do this in the first couple of dates. They consider it a red flag and that you're broke
> This isn't true at all
It is true. Too them low cost date = broke/not a lot of money
> Have you considered that the conversations feel one-sided because she wasn't interested in talking to you? That's their fault for not ending the conversation earlier.
> Uh yeah that would be nice
It's a requirement
> "Am I wrong? No it's the whole world!"
I'm not the only one realizing this

>>81689942
It's pretty clear to me that you're either a millennial/boomer, femoid, have the pattern recognition of cockroach, or are a newfag from the fact you don't even know most of these are well known problems that young guys are struggling to overcome in dating

>>81690107
Not going to address alll of these since most are just "trust me bro it's really like this"
>They want a guy that make $90,000-$100,000 which is practically impossible in your early 20s
I will admit that my first job out of college was six figures. That being said, I've also dated women who had no clue what i did for work, and I live very frugally, so you wouldn't be able to guess my income from my living standards. I have never spent more than $100 on a date that wasn't a long-term relationship.
>Something, something, height cope
My old college roommate is like 5'7, and gets more pussy in a year than I would get in 10.
>I don't want to lift weights, because it won't attract women
Once again, you shouldn't be lifting for women. You should be lifting for yourself. Do you bursh your teeth in the morning only because a woman might smell your breathe?
>Again, nigger. You can agree with them on everything expect one thing and they'll discard you
Why the fuck are you talking about politics with women?
>practically all girls will ghost you if you do this in the first couple of dates
You don't go on dates. You heard someone say this is true and just believed it because "women bad." Yeah you can't do the same thing everytime. The second or third movie date in a row is low effort. Take her to the museum or that resturant nearby that's pretty good.

>>81690318
Yeah you're just a millennial retard that's doesn't even understand the advice you're giving out and how the dating scene is like nowadays.

All you do is straw man, make assumptions, and give out reductive "advice".

>>81689695 (OP)
>I think I'm just going to pay for sex to lose my virginity and get things started rolling
Based. That's what I did. Sadly, it never got things rolling. But at least I'm not a 38yo virgin today.
If a woman ever wanted to fuck me and crucially, actually did it, I would know what to do and not have those red flags of virginity, which is unforgivable to them.

>>81690538
I'm 24, anon

>>81690605
>6'4" millionaire chad comes in to tell us to take more showers
Do you get pleasure out of humiliating us?

Prostitutes don't accept blacks so incel life forever

>>81689695 (OP)
I want try this but what if they see my sea monkey face and refuse to fuck me

>>81690553
Women seem to hate guys that are inexperienced. Even though some like it, the majority of them would rather prefer a guy have somewhat experienced.

>>81690658
Find a black prostitute

>>81689942
>uneducated trailer trash are well-known for not breeding
that's literally the opposite of reality, and it's well-known, so why would anyone read the rest of your post?

>>81690744
I know we're all autists here, but even I understood that it was obvious sarcasm

>>81690658
This is only true in Asia and some of Europe.

Should have Americamaxxed, anon.

i think you need Axe

i know 4chan has a 'floating userbase' like any message board would, but are you guys teenagers? underageb&, as it were?

i mean, i would have cared about this, as a teenager. i'm in my 30s. i just stuck around. i still like animes. i don't want to be in some 'containment thread'.

>>81690658
is this real lol?
>blackborg

>>81690732
>Women seem to hate guys that are inexperienced. Even though some like it, the majority of them would rather prefer a guy have somewhat experienced.
Agreed. Even in the old days, a man was always expected to 'sow his wild oats' before picking up a (near-)virginal wife.
Sadly, it's now very difficult for non-Chads to get ANY experience before late-virginity makes them 'irretrievable'. It's the worst red flag for a foid.
This is why invariably escortceling is the only answer. Though a non-Chad's chance of getting 'legit' sex is still not great. It's well known by now that men who can't get sex early on get mentally destroyed over time, the longer he is pussy-free. We really need willing pussy to be a 'complete' human; which is why inceldom becoming so mainstream and common is such a fucking disaster for society and civilisation in general.

>>81689866
no it doesn't, all it takes is good genes
chad gets women near effortlessly

>>81690900
r9k is filled with mid-late 20s with the mental maturity of a 14 year old, because they never had the key life experiences that makes someone mature