>be me
>ugly, fat, quiet
>grew up invisible
>girls ignored me, guys tolerated me
>no warmth, kindness, or human connection in my life
>decide to become someone else at 26 years old
>start with weight loss
>lose 50 pounds
>gym
>then the real changes began
>jaw implants, zygomatic implants, rhinoplasty, buccal fat removal, skin lasers
>get veneers to fake a smile
>life savings gone
>months of isolation, pain, silence
>crawl out of my cocoon with a new face
>suddenly the world welcomes me
>women look me in the eyes now
>some even cry when I tell them about the loneliness i felt
>guys laugh at my jokes
>i say the same things i always did but now they listen
>they aren't choosing me they're obeying biology
>if i became disfigured tomorrow they'd vanish without a word
>love isn't real
>it's just a chemical reward for breeding potential
>i am not loved
>i am not healed
>i don't even want a relationship anymore
>i am disgusted by humanity

>>81709326 (OP)
If you choose to reproduce your off spring with have the same fate. They be miserable and ugly like their mother!

reminds me of my brother. he lost weight in his early 20s, became hot, got a bunch of attention from women and realized how shallow they all were. he found his trad waifu though. you can do it op.

>>81709326 (OP)
Yep this is how it is sadly. Also thanks for showing me that I am ugly because I get zero matches on tinder.

>>jaw implants, zygomatic implants, rhinoplasty, buccal fat removal, skin lasers
My chosen heart joys at the sight of such a good goyim.

>>81709326 (OP)
This is the story Zyzz had also.
But instead of plastic surgery he choose roids, which also alters your face a bit.
He made some early 2000s memes about it instead and trolling on forums, some videos with a webcam.
He even admit, jokingly on camera, that its all just bullshit. But he also admits that atleast now he can have sex.
He wanted a stronger movement of guys not giving a shit because life is hard and cold but died too young because of heartfailure + roids.

He would have contributed alot to the blackpill if he was still alive.

>>81709359
>he found his trad waifu though. you can do it op.
What would be the point of that when I know all we have animal lust for each other with the rationalization that it's something deeper.
>>81709370
You might not be ugly, but Tinder is only for men who are good looking. I used to get no matches too.

>>81709326 (OP)
i suppose it's no different from us disregarding hags and preferring prime women ... it is what it is

>>81709421
there's no point to anything. having children just changes a man. it's the only way not to be a manchild. even if you become rich and powerful, people will think you're weird if you don't have a family.

>>81709421
>You might not be ugly
Not good looking means ugly for men.

>>81709440
Not op but what about high tier normies and stuff like that? They seem to have no trouble dating.

>>81709326 (OP)
>jaw implants, zygomatic implants, rhinoplasty, buccal fat removal, skin lasers
>get veneers to fake a smile
Cant wait until I change my face completely and chadmaxx. Sure ill be poorer but money comes back.

>>81709326 (OP)
>jaw implants, zygomatic implants, rhinoplasty, buccal fat removal, skin lasers
Deep down in your heart you know that you are still ugly

>>81709482
Anyone who says you need to be 8+/10 in the face looks wise to date is a retard.
Having a neurotypical brain is the forst and most important.
Then it is being of average height or taller.
Then very close after that is having no disfigured face

If you want likes on tinder you do need to be 8+/10 but your photos need to show you in sunlight, or another interesting public place where the photo was clearly taken by someone else.
And a few other things regarding photos.

Those two things for tinder is a must if you want daily likes.
Otherwise if you are NT and not disfigured or too short you can just do normal activities that normies like and eventually click with someone and that's your gf now made from IRL.

If you are not NT then your dating life and chance of having any gf whatsoever is drastically decreased.

>>81709565
>Deep down in your heart you know that you are still ugly

>>81709482
The thing is I have no idea how I look to women. Women from here I talked online said I look cute and one said I am a 7/10 and they all said I should have no problems to find a gf. But I know that girls always lie about this. They are only honest in what they do and by not not giving me likes they say I am not worth dating i.e. ugly.

>>81709595
If you don't get likes on Tinder you aren't that good looking

>>81709326 (OP)
good job you did a bunch of shallow shit to please others and you got shallow attention and fake people in return. you played yourself

>>81709595
I get around 3 likes on tinder/bumble and they are trannies most of the time.

>>81709594
That's okay if the truth hurt

>>81709595
>>81709606
Or his photos don't follow the meta.
Girls on tinder dont objectively consider a man's face like they do in real life.
The more a photo of you on tinder don't look like it was taken in a relationship life situation with good daylight then the less and less it matters what actual good attractive shapes and angles your face has.

>>81709637
That can't be true because all of my photos are selfies or images taken in the mirror

>>81709626
Stop moral grandstanding, you are as shallow as literally every human being that has ever existed. You can delude yourself into believing you aren't, but that's just a fact.

>>81709326 (OP)
The most blackpilled person I ever knew was a natural born Chad, I've never known anyone who thought less of women, it really opened my eyes.
I'm still that ugly, fat, quiet person who thinks that there might be good women out there, but I fear that I'll become like you if I ever fix myself, that I'll truly be disgusted by these people.

>>81709326 (OP)
You should at least pump and dump some women to make your ascension worthwhile...

>>81709644
And you get alot of likes everyday?

>>81709673
idk it just shows 99+ on the likes thing but I haven't subscribed to tinder. Made the account 2 days ago.

>>81709678
And you are OP then?

>>81709712
Yep-

>>81709749
Then the last question is are those selfie with good light from above (sun straight from window) making good light and shape out of your face or is it dark like in pic related.
This is me at 31 and 34. Very bad light, in mirror bathroom.
Even if I lost more weight and did very precise selfie in mirror with light from my apartment it would never look good and these pictures of me are just to show in here. They are useless for tinder.
I'm just assuming you have atleast very good high resolution and sunlight in your face and/or reflected in your mirror.

Either way you are than by definition 8+ in the face.
9+ if your selfie aren't even in a good light or lower resolution/blurry like mine.

I'm at maybe 6 or 6.5 facially and could be max 7 on a good day if I lost weight (irl not on photos)

Unfortunately I cant change my race so looksmaxxing is pointless

>>81709786
They are better quality than the images you have shown with much better lighting, looking directly into the camera. I am also extremely lean, maybe 8% body fat.
>Either way you are than by definition 8+ in the face.
I'm not sure what I am but I am happy with the results from an aesthetic standpoint, just hard to cope with the reality of human nature.

>>81709655
you don't know shit about me.

>you are as shallow as literally every human being that has ever existed. You can delude yourself into believing you aren't, but that's just a fact
maybe you cant swallow the fact that someone else is actually not half as shallow as you or your projection of yourself or the world. op wasted his life savings on trying to please a world and its inhabitants that never accepted him. i realized this without doing anything of the sort long ago. we are born alone and we will die alone. human connection and intimacy is a need but one can rise above it. if people will not accept you for who you are and if you are unable to find the love you are willing to give to someone else, then you don't need to keep playing. the fact that you haven't and don't think others can is your own shortcoming.

>>81709800
>Unfortunately I cant change my race so looksmaxxing is pointless
What is your race?

>it's the op changes and people like him suddenly episode

>>81709786
dude you are literal chad(without fat), even a single photo of this would get you 100s of likes in tinder

>>81709326 (OP)
So unless i spend all of my life savings in plastic, jaw, hair and leg surgery, spend what little free time is left from my job exercizing, and magically gain a house to my name i wont even have a chance at dating?
Grim

>>81709800
Is this the sea monkey guy

TFW get some likes and matches, despise being a bald manlet incel. Never leads to sex though, and I am too NEET and autist to date.
So I'm supposedly not unattractive, but still live life like an ugly unfuckable incel anyway. The curse of the averagecel.

As a lightskin blackcel I know if I just thugmaxxed and got dreads and gold fronts in my mouth and had drugs and guns in the background of my tinder pictures I could probably ascend.
White dudes have it easy they can just act normal like OP after getting a bit of surgery.
I only know this to be true because I tried once and I got more matches.
Hell there are darkskin dudes way uglier than me and shorter who have an assload of matches that I personally knew simply because of this sentiment.
I guess if I become a 29 year old virgin I'll just bite the bullet and do this.
Either that or get surgery like OP.
But man does being fake suck ass especially when I have a college education.

>>81710011
Try approaching women in real life then

>>81710023
>just act normal like OP after getting a bit of surgery.
Bro he had a ridiculous amount of very risky surgery

>>81710023
>white dudes have it so easy
>they just have to spend 80k to 150k and every single waking moment exercizing

>>81710027
Very difficult. I've had years in between getting stared at by women and they always have company. I'm just too autist to talk to strangers.
I wish I had one of those women who did all the talking, so I'd have a chance of escalating. I can't do anything with the quiet ones.
I go to the park each week and hope that a woman would make conversation. I got some smiles from passing women, last time.
I wish women could just be forward with me. I hate all the uncertainty. Though I am so poor, all I could do with them is fuck them.

>>81710027
Litterally no woman likes getting hit on by creepy men while they gl about their business. Its litteral harassment and can get you in trouble

>>81710058
If you have $80k to $150k at 26 like OP you already mog me yes.

>>81710065
If this guy is getting likes and matches on tinder he can't be that ugly. Many people have gotten into relationships from cold approaching women.

>>81710067
I have 80k euros but im still considered poor af by women. They want someone who has a house, a car, and takes several high end vacations per year

>>81710054
Yeah but the fact this nigga is that rich already at 26 that he can just spend it on risky surgery already mogs the majority of black/brown people due to status alone.
That's life changing money for somebody like me who was born in the ghetto and has had to bust his ass off working shitty wagecuck jobs and still has no money due to having to take care of my family and elderly parents.
So yes this nigga has it fucking easy.

>>81710072
They only people ive ever seen doing this in the street are groups of 8 to 15 arabs. Needless to say they werent really successful. Noone does that where i live and thats basically considered street harassment

>>81709583
>Anyone who says you need to be 8+/10 in the face looks wise to date is a retard.
You don't need an 8+ face to date, but they don't need to put in effort. You need to pay for the date and keep the conversation or activity engaging most of the time. They don't need to jump through hoops to hope the girl likes them.

>>81710073
If you want to get women through money you need a lot, you can be broke and still get attractive women if you're good looking though

>>81709427
I feel like I could be with a less attractive women if she truly had a great personality, but let's be honest all women run the same software.

>>81709326 (OP)
Welcome to misanthropy. The next step is being disgusted by nature itself as you realize it is an inherently predatory and unfair system built on the horrific suffering of all beings.

Took care of yourself, well done. The rest if just shitty delusions. Improve your mind too, not just your body

>>81710023
>White dudes have it easy they can just act normal like OP after getting a bit of surgery.
righto just a modest bit of 6 figures in plastic surgery'll have you right as rain

>>81709786
you were always handsome even as a kid, this only shows how much being lonely fries your brain

>>81709326 (OP)
I experienced this at around your age only it was much simpler. All I really had to do was get rid of my glasses and wear a little makeup. Didn't change a thing about my personality. I had girls ask me out for the first time in my life. It really all comes down to looks. Being ugly sucks.

>>81709326 (OP)
imagine having literal steroids in your body (testosterone) and still being fat lol
scrotes are pathetic pigs, literally in your case

>>81709326 (OP)
>zygomatic implants
Cool story bro. Just kidding, your larp is gay and so are you. Zygomatic implants are dental implants for people who can't get regular dental implants because their jawbone has deteriorated too much.

The entire point of your gay larp was just so you could say
>i don't even want a relationship anymore
>i am disgusted by humanity
This is your cope for staying a fat basement-dwelling slob. "Why bother losing weight? If that made girls like me it would just prove how shallow they are! They should accept me the way I am, REEEEEEEE!"

>>81714406
ad hom isn't an argument

>>81714307
>abloobloo high value men don't want me, I'm gonna ruin my own life with isolation and bitterness instead of making the best of things
>men are stupid lol
Neurotic freak

>>81709326 (OP)
>I am disgusted by humanity
agree but your wall of text isnt needed, just this pic is enough

>>81714406
It was referred to as such but I suppose you can call them malar implants

>>81709326 (OP)
Where the fuck are these unlovable fat men before they take measures like surgery and becoming extremely lean? Seriously, I only like fat guys but I never see any of them being interested in dating, here or irl. Are they just too black-pilled to even entertain the notion of talking to a girl? Am I too pushy/not their type?

>>81709326 (OP)
>>jaw implants, zygomatic implants, rhinoplasty, buccal fat removal, skin lasers
let's be real there's no way a person wouldn't look like a lump of silly putty after having all that done

>>81709326 (OP)
An ugly person is more authentic than you

>>81715017
>Are they just too black-pilled to even entertain the notion of talking to a girl?
Yes.
>t. Fat guy

>>81715017
I'd wager the opposite, you're probably not pushy enough, their self-esteem is about as low as a rape victim with how much society has bullied and humiliated them so it should be a cakewalk if you just show some kind of very proactive interest.

>>81715017
Because do you think even these fat men want an ugly slob woman too? All men want stacies.