>>81711635 (OP)Satirical answer but, when there's quite a few women that aren't Stacy-lookalikes that cry when they get pump-and-dumped by Chad and refuse to settle for anything less, isn't the incel part just equivalent exchange? Yeah, the girls got to fuck Chad and the incels didn't fuck Stacy, but at the same time the relationship was denied in both.
Still, a lot of incels definitely don't articulate any good points. They turn an argument that COULD mean something into worthless slop with their idiotic crying, and also don't even try half the time before they give up and sit in their basement.
The better argument to put forward is, why should a man fight for a woman who won't improve herself? Or on the other side, why can't a woman fight for a man willing to improve himself? I'd be more than willing to help a less-than-good-looking girl improve her looks and physique until I DID like her back.
Of course that raises the counterquestion of, why do so many people let themselves forget who helped them get to where they are? There's tons of stories of girlfailures and boyfailures who had people take chances on them, improve them, then the instant those people become even mildly desirable they forget their relationship and go cheat or 'look for better horizons', forgetting the person who helped them get to that point in the first place.
We as a society just need to teach both our men and women better moral lessons. But that won't happen until society nearly falls apart due to not following those lessons. Sadly, that will likely be outside of the scopes of our lifetimes.