Thread 81769619

im on my self IMPROOOOOVEment arc
https://youtu.be/5WX9UEYZsR8?si=rEYCX2jtDJRgk_Db

>>81769619 (OP)
thou shal not suffer from cognitive biases

>>81769619 (OP)
>army
>health and safety
>forestry and waterway upkeep
>standards institute

>but I would pay for those
Tragedy of the commons my dude

>>81770104
I would, in fact, pay for those

>>81769619 (OP)
>Be american
>Constantly watch people overpay for essential medicines that are trivially cheap in socialized countries.
>Constantly watch the elderly lose their entire life savings and leave their families with nothing because cancer
>Even the goddamned cereal tastes different because we don't ban fucked up preservatives everyone else does.
That's the stupidest pic related I have seen a in a good while.

>Jordan Peterson
OP you're listening to deranged grifters, get out while you still can. There's better ways to improooove than licking rich idiots' boots.

>>81770338
>Constantly watch the elderly lose their entire life savings and leave their families with nothing because cancer
yeah its really sad. we should let the healthcare industry be more of a free market rather than a monopoly :/
>jordan peterson
jordan peterson is actually a clinical physiologist and he has many insightful things to say. Although im not the biggest fan of his political arc. his destiny interview was pretty good though!

>>81770338
>That's the stupidest pic related I have seen a in a good while.
because people are selfish? would the government be any less selfish?

>>81770372
>more of a free market
My brother in Christ, you do know that free markets are how you get monopolies by any name right?
"Free market" is just another way of returning to the law of the jungle. Might will make right without anything in place to stop the most forceful.

>actually a clinical physiologist
Actually he's not. He's a weird old Canadian crank nobody cared about until he used a new Canadian law to cry about compelled speech that to this day never actually happened. And he got booted from his right to practice after using his money making media tour to incidentally dox a lot of his former patients, who he immediately neglected after getting famous.
Listen to the way he talks, he loves rambling in semantic circles and refusing to engage opposing views unless it's on his own arbitrary ground. Big words, dumb ideas, very bad at brevity. A dumb man's idea of a smart man.

>>81769619 (OP)
>early warning weather and natural disaster systems

>>81770466
>My brother in Christ, you do know that free markets are how you get monopolies by any name right?
did you know only one company can only make insulin? and that americans cant buy insulin from canada? Free markets would liberalize this
so if you want a specific example there it is

And look at this as well:
https://www.newsweek.com/argentinas-javier-milei-keeps-proving-his-critics-wrong-2095695
if free markets create democracy why did median housing prices fall 10 percent after milei deregulated the housing market?
>>81770466
>Actually he's not. He's a weird old Canadian crank nobody cared about until he used a new Canadian law to cry about compelled speech that to this day never actually happened.
he is first of all
second of all he was against a bill that would compel speech
its just interesting how much you care about him. This was from when he was far less political. I dont really love the way he is now but i find value in the things he says. Hes not my favorate person however. And im not a blind fanboy. But what problem do you find in a person that finds what he says personally helpful? Or someone that took his self authoring program and personally benefited? Thats kind of the whole point of "self help", its to actually help you. So it dosnt matter if its corny or cringe. If people find it helpful thats literally all that matters

>>81770536
the more money the government spends, the less is in the hands of people who first of all, actually benefit from keeping their money, and second of all, make better decisions on the quality of products and what products they value succeed. We tried it there way. We tried socialist policies and interventionism. Now, its time to try it mises's way

>>81770561
to be clear, moving away from regulation and toward deregulation is moving toward the free market. So my your theory of monopolys, the price of housing would get more expensive

In my theory, letting people build and economize, unmolested by the government, leads to better competition among businesses. Leading to benifit and lower prices for the consumer. This same logic applies to terrifs and taxxes on the rich as well

>>81770536
>But what problem do you find
He regurgitates boiler-plate self-help advice when that whole genre is 50% grift from the start. And only got the ball rolling because his weird unrealistic gripe was convenient for a larger conservative narrative against trans representation at the time.
>>81770561
>>81770625
The last time I triggered a libertarian this hard I at least got to fuck her until she called me Daddy after.

>>81769619 (OP)
Is this really how conservitards think? Grim.

>>81770661
>The last time I triggered a libertarian this hard I at least got to fuck her until she called me Daddy after.
Its hard to argue with someone who don't care about the pursuit of truth. You can insult me, or you can respond to the substantive things I've said

I'm also on my self improvement arc but am a chad marxist instead of a larping capitalist

>>81770751
you sure are, buddy

And btw i dont find JP to just regurgitate boiler plate self help talking points. A lot of what he said is new and of substance. Of course the more you listen to him the more he treads the same water. But what else can you expect of someone
also you didnt explain why a person listening to jordan peterson and finding value in what he says is objectionable. you just said was that what he said is unoriginal

and i contend that being for freedom of speech is a pretty admirable thing to stand up for

>>81770661
I mean wasn't the whole think started because he didnt want to be complelled by law to use his speech in a specific way? I think its important to defend freedom and justice, rather than "social justice". witch isnt justice at all

>>81770525
refer to the graph: is the warning coordinator important?

>>81770938
Its not a private company. I don't even think you can give money to them specifically if you wanted to

>>81770938
Got dang Republicans you have blood on your hands

>>81770743
>Muh ad hominem
Yeah we're not in debate class anymore, sorry. Maybe that was just my way of asking if you actually self identify as a Libertarian. Either way that seems like an answer.
>>81770743
>don't care about the pursuit of truth
Your words not mine, friend.
>respond to the substantive things
I'm not wasting my time with your bullshit, it's not math, it's hegemonic ideology.
> Libertarian
Either admit you're down for child-brides and slaves, or admit that a whole nation becoming MORE selfish and individualistic is not how we dig ourselves out of this pit of eco-disaster and class-disparity we find the world in right now?

>>81770972
Government agencies are funded by taxpayers so you me and your mudda are giving it money to do a specific job until it got IMPROOOOVED by herr drumpf

>>81770938
>>81770525

You voted for their deaths rightoids. Repent now for you have made an idol of your political party

>>81771000
yes its my words. Im making an assumption that you dont care about whats true because you ignored what i posted above that disproved the idea that making markets more free will lead to monopolies and higher prices. I gave you a specific example and you would rather not address why the median house price in Argentina went down 10% after deregulation. It dosn't fit into your idea of how the world works so you ignore it. I also have not insulted you this whole time while you have made insults the whole time. see for example (1).

What im talking about has nothing to do with people being more or less selfish. Thats up to the individual person and culture to decide.

While it is true we are not in a debate club, when discussing ideas there needs to be mutual respect and cooperation to get closer to the truth. I think you are scared of this process or are unwilling to abide by the conditions able to make seeking the truth possible. For example, implying I must support "child brides" "slaves" and support a selfish and individualistic attitude. And saying im "triggered" and not addressing a thing i have said. Why are people like you so closed minded and needlessly aggressive? I will refer you to this resource (2), but as of now i dont think having a conversation with a person like you would benefit either of us. Goodbye
1:
>>81770661
2:
https://therulesofcivilconversation.org/

>>81771138
I think cutting government programs is good. but it cant be paired with even more deficit spending

>>81771165
>While it is true we are not in a debate club
>A-a-appeal to authority!
Holy fucking shit dude.

>>81771302
I try not to take part in political theater. Goodbye

>>81771208
>cutting government programs is good
So when the fuck do we deal with the literal 3rd of all federal spending that is the military?

>>81771328
When we feel like becoming a peaceful country again. Or when we get a libertarian president. Id prefer to cut and privatize social security and government funded medicare first. since one of the essential features of a state is its ability to defend itself, courts, and a police force
but we definitely didnt need more spending on the military

>>81770938
deIet dis

anyway im going to go to the gym. gains aint gonna make themself !

>>81770525
I think there are over a hundred deaths now. What an absolute tragedy

>>81771138
>>81770987
The people who didn't vote have their fair share too. You allowed this to happen

>>81770938
>Director of national weather warning systems responsible for saving thousands, if not millions of lives
>spent 32 years helping NOAA grow
>Trump cuts the program off at its knees with budget cuts
>decides to GTFO before shit hits the fan
I can't blame him one bit. That was your canary in the coal mine moment.

>>81771882
I would of voted LP party if i did vote. Anyway, you guys are catastrophic and overly moralizing
People wanted to shrink the government and theres nothing wrong with that. This also would of never happened if this was privatized

>>81770938
>is the warning coordinator important?
Please refer to this harebrained section of what you're asking. This is an infinite loop, no exit condition. Whoever made this is in denial that sometimes people just can't afford important things.

wait a minute... the proposed budget cuts are for 2026. and they have nothing to do with whether forecasting

If something is important, you pay for it

>>81772263
>sometimes people just can't afford important things
idk about you man, but i donate to causes i support all the time

>>81772286
Not how it works. No one's going to be able to pay for anything when the vast majority of money is in the hands of the ultra wealthy who have nothing but their own interests at heart. The county that had all those flooding deaths had been trying for years to get sirens installed to warn people in emergencies but they are too expensive.

>>81772300
It's nice being above that 50% fold, isn't it?

>>81772286
you didn't pay attention to what DOGE was doing huh?

>>81772263
>sometimes people just can't afford important things

Shit man that's true. The scarier thing is that for the people at the top this diagram makes total sense

>>81772440
I'm sure there's something else that can change the calculus.

>>81772328
>>81772435
>not paying attention to the goings on in the government because I'm too busy enjoying my middle/high-class lifestyle
hah, there it is

>>81772574
Continet atque duas tantum res anxius optat,
panem et circenses.

>>81772470
Calculus? Idk about that man! To the officers reading this thread, I swear I'm very bad at math

>>81770722
no this is how conservitards think

>>81772435
the doge cuts didnt get passed, unfortunately

>>81772962
uh, what cuts? Source? Because they took out like 20% of the NOAA staff, and canceled who-knows how many contracts. So either you're full of shit, or you're talking about an extremely specific instance.

>>81773023
yeah. the cuts that didnt happen. We agree

>>81773065
oh wait i belive i might be mistaken

>>81769619 (OP)
Thank you for your service little goy

>>81769619 (OP)
The best would be a Japan style high trust society, the law is not overbearing over there but when you are in trouble its a 98% conviction rate. People could very easily break the law if they want but they they choose not to. It only takes a small % to ruin the whole thing.

>>81772315
You can only tell people not to build a home or camp on a flood plain so many times until it becomes their fault, at some point you can't stop dumb.

>>81771353
They just haaaave to spend 30 million on a library, a simple office building is just not good enough. I'm now convinced these obnoxious public projects are just to trick normies into thinking getting robbed 40% in taxes is normal.

>>81773301
>They just haaaave to spend 30 million on a library, a simple office building is just not good enough. I'm now convinced these obnoxious public projects are just to trick normies into thinking getting robbed 40% in taxes is normal.
if libraries cant exist on the free market then they dont deserve to *sips wine in my suit and winks at you*

>>81773340
why do you people want poor people to be more ignorant than they already are?

>>81771353
>privatizing social security and medicare

because private insurance isn't a scam at all. yeah lets have people pay into privatized social security so some ceo fuck wad can come up with some bullshit reason to deny paying out.

libertarians are the dumbest of the dumb. only to be topped by namefags

>>81773569
>why do you people want poor people to be more ignorant than they already are?
education is really cheap as it is. we need to defund and privatize public libraries

just because i dont want the state to do something does not mean i object to it being done

>>81773569
>because private insurance isn't a scam at all. yeah lets have people pay into privatized social security so some ceo fuck wad can come up with some bullshit reason to deny paying out.
non profits exist too

System patch

>>81773884
unfathomably based. thank you OC poster
*salutes you*