Why is it ok to say everyone should have access to food, housing, and healthcare but completely radical to say men should have access to sex?

>>81770851 (OP)
cuz access to sex basically just means the right to rape people if used in the same sense as a right to housing

>>81770883
This basically. You're asking someone to give up their autonomy, etc.

>>81770883
To be fair, you could argue the right to housing means slavery because people have to work to build and maintain your free housing

>>81770883
And right to food, housing, healthcare, etc., means you can steal someone elses labor and money

>>81770883
>>81770910
You're >implying you have the right to enslave others if you have a right to food, housing and healthcare. Those all require somebody else's labor.
>>81770851 (OP)
Because men have to provide those first resources while women have to provide the last resource and God forbid we ever expect anything of women.

>>81770883
yep it's this, it's literally just rape. the actual solution to OPs question is legalizing prostitution
>>81770913
wage slavery isn't actual slavery and to be a normie means that you don't question the order of things, you get MAD if someone questions why we even need to work

>>81770924
Then the argument you're making is that men should have access to subsidized prostitution

>>81770851 (OP)
Fucking dumbass doesn't understand what sex means you are born with penis to impregnate vagina when sexed, so women do not want sex all the time cause it means kids and contraceptive is gonna make your dick a human dildo

>>81770952
Why not? Women have access to all sorts of subsidized goodies paid for by men's taxes.

>>81770924
it doesnt mean that at all lol, the government can employee people and pay them to do shit. Unless you think all work is slavery or some shit in which case you are too retarded to interact with.

>>81770851 (OP)
Because food, housing and healthcare costs resources, which is a mens thing, women want to be socialists with mens wallets but not with their own pussies. Foids are pathetic like that.

You won't die if you don't have sex. Meanwhile, without the others, you will die.

>>81771002
The men that does not reproduce is not surviving, because to survive all creatures must eat and reproduce. So think again, your foid brain is mentally retarded.

>>81770851 (OP)
As a woman, I get angry when I see moids unironically claiming sex is a human right because
>You are not going to die if you don't have sex, it is a luxury not a right
>Sex implies the involvement of more people, how do you expect this to practically work? Government provided pussy?
>You are not entitled to having sexual access to anyone's body
>Why don't you just masturbate?
>Sex being accessible to everyone as a human right would cause uncontrolled population growth, a spread of STDs and extreme degeneracy

>>81770952
Offer a paycheck and workplace rights, health benefits and rules and women will 300% do it, just as any other public workers. No one is saying we should enslave women or beat them. I wouldnt date or marry one tho, thats my right and my freedom of choice, same as women think marrying a plumber is bad for them. You niggers are borderline retarded.

>>81771016
No, a lot of members in all species die without ever reproducing. It is a part of the evolutionary process. You are advocating for dysgenics.

>>81770989
The government doesnt create wealth to be employing people, the gov extracts the actual wealth from others. Besides it was tried under communism and it doesnt work, apparently the men arent willing to slave away for stupids whores that dont do shit for them, thats why in every communist shithole the foids are starving to death, like they deserve, soon coming to you.

>>81771020
You can keep your hole, Im only mad because I dont owe you my blood (protection) or my resources, neither directly nor thru welfare, and it is being stolen from me, which is the reason you suffering will be tremendous in the near future.

>>81770989
Nothing that requires somebody else is a right. Free speech is a right because it doesn't require anybody else to exercise. Free healthcare is not a right because it requires medical facilities and doctors and nurses and medication, all of which must be provided by other people.

>>81771051
yes, yes, of course. The government existing is literally rape and slavery. Government workers do not exist outside of communism. And this is why you should be allowed to rape women. Good talk.

>>81770977
I don't know how serious you actually are or if you're just incel shitposting but the reason why this isn't a thing and never will be is because the vast majority of people have sex and so there isnt some civilizational ending scarcity no matter how much the average robot wants to think otherwise. Also sex is not essential for survival, and is universally understood to be a consequence of voluntary private relationships that develop from mutual consent, and that definition contradicts your proposal.

>>81771069
You are schizophrenic, seek help immediately.

>>81771037
We dont live in nature, so your point is invalid, but if thats the game you want to play, I guess if you are pathetic weak like most women are, then just die, being female doesnt mean shit to Mother Nature.

>>81771025
So you're just generally in favor of legalizing prostitution? I mean okay but that's a very different topic.

>>81771090
Run out of arguments, stupid bitch.

>>81771078
The government is rape and slavery for us men, you should keep it all to yourself, like every starving communists whore.

>>81771081
The vast majority of people aren't starving to death, yet we still have food stamps and food pantries. Also sex is part of Maslow's Hierarchy of Needs.

>>81770851 (OP)
Those men need government-subsidized sexbots, funded by taxpayers.

Why get so deep into this topic lol. Itd be like becoming an Indian faggot and having an arranged marriage lol gay and cringe
Anyways just sybua and talk to women at ur bjj class cuz icl fr your pmo sm lol

>>81771136
>Maslow's Hierarchy of Needs.
>...the hierarchy of needs has been criticized for its lack of conclusive supporting evidence and its validity remains contested.[14][15][16][17]
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maslow%27s_hierarchy_of_needs

>>81771198
Sybau***
Typo but ya just stop being cringe nigga

>>81771136
Then why don't we have government subsidized friendships where people like you are forced to hang out with an assigned "friend" three times a week?

>>81771201
Yes but only the part about love and belongingness is inconclusive, conveniently, lol.

>>81771127
I am a man who has worked for state government before. Sorry for being a communist or something for working in Tennessee, the land of communism.

>>81771016
>not surviving
No, you'll survive. You won't die not having sex or reproducing. Food you must have or you will die. Cry more.

>>81771136
>Maslow
Been debunked decades ago.

>>81771221
We already have that. It is called school. For adults, we hage tax exempt voluntary friendship zones called churches.

>>81771232
> No, you'll survive. You won't die not having sex or reproducing. Food you must have or you will die. Cry more.
If I dont reproduce, I wont survive, you dont know how life works do you? All creatures must eat and reproduce to survive.

>>81771230
> Tennessee, the land of communism.
Soon to be. Good job leeching out of the taxpayers. But dont worry under communism the bitches that you wont rape will be the least of your problems, getting something to eat will come first, so problem solved.

>>81771243
Then by that same logic it should double as the source of sex that you are advocating for, which it often is, given how many people are fucking each other in school and church. Therefore we don't need subsidized sex.

>>81771300
I am not the retard and agree with you.

>>81771256
>all creatures need to reproduce to survive
Objectively and obviously false.

>>81771327
Of course, I forgot life forms are immortal and live forever. Dont use the word objectively, because you dont have clue of its meaning.

>>81771256
>If I dont reproduce, I wont survive
You. Are. Alive. Right. Now. There are homeless people who have died today because they did not have clean source of water, food, and shelter. You are not dead. You are not dying from having no sex. Billions before you did not die from not having sex. Not reproducing does not kill you. Show me one death certificate in which the cause of death was "no sex" and "did not reproduce."

>>81770851 (OP)
The thing is that all of those things are wrong.
If you were alone on a deserted island you could
>hunt for food
>build a house
>heal yourself to the best of your ability
In other words pursue your own happiness
Rights end where other people come into existence.
It is not a right to
>force somebody else to hunt for you
>force somebody else to build you shelter
>force somebody else to heal you
>force somebody else to have sex with you
All of these things can be traded for and cooperated about with consent and volunteering.
Always remember that other humans suck and will take advantage of you, don't do things for them for free.

>>81771300
Good ldea.

>>81771368
Ive never said I will die for no reproducing, I said I wont survive, when you die without having reproduced then you didnt survive, you are conflating both terms in your extreme ignorance.
BTW I dont care about any starving whore, since I wont survive you may as well just die.

>>81770851 (OP)
>Why is it ok to say everyone should have access to food, housing, and healthcare

its not; the only "human right" is the right to be left alone. of course, this also means that we don't get to fuck whenever we want.

>>81771345
You are playing semantic games because you're backed into a corner

>>81771409
>survive
https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/survive
>to remain alive or in existence
>to continue to function or prosper
Surviving means you are alive. You are surviving right now because you are still alive. You are just trolling at this point.

>>81771418
The only one backed around the corner of your own ignorance is yourself, I even explain you the difference. Whats the purpose of reproduction then? There you have it.

>>81771415
>the only "human right" is the right to be left alone
If you don't even see food as a human right, then you definitely don't see being "left alone" as one either. You just want to say that because you like the idea of sounding like a stoic loner.

>>81771453
It's just negative rights, brainlet.

>>81770883

>capitalism is le bad except when it comes to my vagina

women weren't being raped hundreds of years ago but men essentially had a right to sex if they had a job because they were guaranteed a wife.

>>81771438
No, because if thats the case, since everyone dies eventually, then no ones survives, so explain to me, whats the purpose of reproduction then?

>>81771447
The logic you are using right now is equivalent to someone arguing that one mouse for example is equal to all life in this history of existence.

>>81771461
>negative rights
I have the negative right to be left alone while I bother you.

>>81771470
>literally ignores the actual definition of survive right in front of him
Trolling concluded.

>>81771479
What? Im done texting to you. You have to be 12 or a truly retarded foid.

>>81771492
Doesn't work like that. Rights are spooks anyway, but he didn't just come up with it ad hoc to look like a stoic, it's a pretty popular concept.

>>81771500
I dont argue with SOURCE people, you are pathetic, you dont have a mind of your own.

>>81771453
i am neither stoic nor a loner, and i don't have some trip about being either! say you had a big surplus of water and your dickhead neighbor is dying of thirst. everything's broken down, ya know. i don't "believe" in some thing called Rights that obligates me to provide him water or i'm violating his Rights. depending on circumstances, i'd give him plenty of water because of my nature and partially because of my religious beliefs. that's all.

>>81771461
as this man says, i just don't consider positive rights legitimate. negative rights i consider perfectly legitimate. just taste, ya know. but as everyone with a strong opinion, i figure i'm right and he's wrong. way she goes!

>>81771020
AS A TRUE LIFTA SAGE WITH AN ELITE SAIYAN IQ, I GET ANGRY WHEN I SEE W*MEN UNIRONICALLY CLAIMING HOUSING IS A HUMAN RIGHT
>YOU ARE NOT GOING TO DIE WITHOUT A HOUSE, BUY A TENT, HOE
>BUILDING A HOUSE IMPLIES THE INVOLVEMENT OF MORE PEOPLE, HOW DO YOU EXPECT THIS TO PRACTICALLY WORK?
>YOU ARE NOT ENTITLED TO ANYONE ELSE'S LABOR
>WHY DON'T YOU JUST GET A FUCKING JOB?
>HOUSING BEING ACCESSIBLE TO EVERYONE AS A HUMAN RIGHT WOULD CAUSE UNCONTROLLED INFLATION AND DEBT GROWTH

TL;DR: NO PUSSY NO HOUSES BUDDY *SNAPS UR NECK*

>>81770851 (OP)
touch yourself retard

>>81771453
trvth nvke galore