Do you guys think men can be loved as a person and not just from the skills and capabilities they have?My dad has recently left my life, i'm 19 and still live with my mom so stuff like changing wiring and fixing stuff has fallen into my hands, recently when i was fixing some old wiring and lamp socket that caught on fire i could only think about how much better my dad would be able to do it than me,i don't miss him as a person, maybe because he wasn't a very good man, just capable but i'm not sure, do you robots have any thoughts or experiences like this?

>>81772269 (OP)
love is deeper than that

you can absolutely be loved no matter what

you dont have to be an ubbermench to find love

>>81772269 (OP)
chad can get unconditional love
no one else gets any type of love

>>81772327
Is that really true for men, anon? I don't really see it. If you're not useful enough you just have to be alone.

>>81772327
It's just weird anon, i don't think we men are really treated like people, i'm not really incompetent but i still fall short of all the checklists girls have so never dated.
>>81772350
I think even chad gets fucked on this one anon, if by some reason he gets hit in the head and is incapable of providing and protecting people will stop loving him too.

>>81772269 (OP)
What a little feller

>>81772269 (OP)
it has been observed that men aren't capable of feeling love.

>>81772366
its true for everyone

even men

but pain can really distort the way we see the world. You kinda need to a reach a better place in your mindset before it become obvious to you.

maybe try an exercise imagine your friend saying all the things you say to yourself and think about what you would want to tell them

>>81772373
>I think even chad gets fucked on this one anon, if by some reason he gets hit in the head and is incapable of providing and protecting people will stop loving him too.
chad means someone tall and attractive (8/10 and 6'2+)
he doesnt provide or protect anyone

>>81772383
I am anon, from what i last checked i still had a dick too.

>>81772269 (OP)
>Can men be loved beyond what they can do or provide?:
Trick question, men aren't even loved for that.
Even if you perfectly fill the role of provider and protector, keep a woman safe and comfortable at all times and buy/build/obtain everything she wants whenever she wants it, you'll STILL just be a tool in her eyes. A useful tool, but still just a tool. If you ever stop being useful, or she thinks she can get a better tool, she'll discard you without a second thought. She'll pretend to love you, to keep you around and motivated to continue serving her needs, but it's not real.

The only men women truly love are the ones with genetics she wants to mate with (AKA Chad).

>>81772390
It's probably because i grew up in a very violent area but in my experience how handsome and tall you are never really mattered to get women from what i saw, just how violent and capable you are, sure, a lot of tall guys fit that criteria but very few were good looking and tall.

>>81772269 (OP)
No
Anyway poor lil peep though :(

>>81772269 (OP)
Women are hardwired to be attracted to whoever they feel can improve their life most at a given moment.
True love for who you are as a person is a myth, there will constantly be calculations going on in her subconscious, followed by rationalization for why she lost attraction.
Women are always looking an upgrade, no matter how much you let their expectations shape you already.

>>81772410
>It's probably because i grew up in a very violent area but in my experience how handsome and tall you are never really mattered to get women from what i saw
lookism and the halo effect are widespread proven psychological phenomenons

>>81772327
Love isn't really as deep as you think it is.

>>81772373
Yeah, you're correct. Men really aren't appreciated or loved beyond what they can provide

>>81772400
>>81772426
I'm like, just generally confused, it's not even just a strictly women thing in my opinion, my dad loved me before he left on his own terms, i expected to have this gaping hole on my chest when he chose to leave us but like, no, i'm just concerned about financial stuff and other daily necessities i'll have to handle with him gone now while calculating the best way to step up for my mom, maybe humans are wired to just not care very much about men as people, just as useful tools? idfk my dad wasn't a very good man either so maybe it's just that

>>81772474
>maybe humans are wired to just not care very much about men as people
I've had this same thought a bunch of times. It really does seem like that.

>>81772327
yeah youre right, just be white or light skinned east asian. otherwise you hvae to turn yourself into the kind of monster that other people assume you are.

>>81772516
Wonder if i end up having kids they'll be like that too, just bleak

>>81772269 (OP)
Men are not people. They value themselves as providers because they are shallow and hollow

i'm not interested in providing
therefore i'm not interested in dating based on what i can provide.

>>81772269 (OP)
By women? No. The womanbrain literally doesn't work that way.