i want to kill myself because i'm a 5'9 manlet
there is no way to cope
i will never have a girlfriend being this short

>5'9 is now "manlet" status
jesus christ. none of you fucks on this board have any actual issues.

>>81799147
>>5'9 is now "manlet" status
it literally is
anyone bellow 6' is a mnanlet

>>81799137 (OP)
I'm 6'1 and I'm still going to kill myself
I'm so angry
I hate this world
The prison scene from Waking Life is literally me

>>81799137 (OP)
you have exactly one out, listen closely: you have to grow out a beard, the biggest, bushiest beard you can. next, you're gonna wanna start wearing overalls, denims, the whole nine yards. then you're going to have to work on a new jersey accent by talking to yourself in the mirror for several hours each week. Women can't resist happy-go-lucky guys with jersey accents. It's the only way for us shortkings.

>>81799354
I can't grow a beard. I would also prefer being a twink

>>81799137 (OP)
Sorry you were born a manlet, love isnt possible for you. But being shanghaied into a naval crew is probably in the cards.

>>81799396
Idgaf about being in the navy
I just want love
Also army is for cucks

>>81799402
Sorry you are too short for love. now work your station manlet!

>>81799412
I will not join the navy
Why would i do that?

>>81799422
>shanghaied
Its ok, the navy doesnt care if dont read, Now off with you manlet

>>81799442
I won't go. What are they gonna do, arrest me?

>>81799137 (OP)
My boyfriend is that tall dude, you're beyond all retarded, you'll get a girlfriend, you're not even short. Short is when you as tall as a woman. You're still taller than women, so you're fine. And in the actual real world, no one gives a shit about that. If you go to the mall and do some people watching, you'll be shocked at how many couples are the same height, or the man is shorter.

>>81799395
Grow some balls faggot, I regret typing all that out since clearly you want some tranny ass faggots to come in here and go "You should troon out". I'm going to call some burly ass thugs to behead you isis style

>>81799505
>Grow some balls faggot
What's wrong with wanting to look young?

>>81799160
I am 6.1 and everyone always called me a manlet
6.5/6.7 is the new 6ft

>>81799505
>You're still taller than women, so you're fine.
Nta but not really
>And in the actual real world, no one gives a shit about that.
They do. Theres a girl i liked and she was 6ft5, she did want someone taller than her
>go to the mall and do some people watching, you'll be shocked at how many couples are the same height, or the man is shorter.
This never ever happens. Same with couples where the man is uglier or pooret, thats only used by people on here to gaslight us
t.litteraly works in a mall

>>81799137 (OP)
>says he is a manlet
>5"9
Genuinely think this board has to be full of retards who are attractive but their personality is their only real flaw. I am 5"3 and it is one of the few things that i have never had issues with, so at 5"9 you have no excuse really.

>>81799147
5 9 is Manlet. I am roughly 5 9 and have two milly and have to do insane acts to even get a 330 pound girlfriend. That is life in America

>>81799624
>muh personality
Your face is your personality.

>>81799645
Oh dont get this wrong, i fully agree on that to an extent. But i think a lot of these people do have alright or average face cards. I think the problem is more with them self and you should probably be able to see that too, assuming your not an attention seeking teen of course, then ignore what i said and imagine i started screaming like a stupid foid or whatever makes you happy.

>>81799160
retarded. youre retarded. I really at least wish that you cared about, like, your actual genuine flaws, like the fact that you're an idiot and you don't understand humans or people. I wish that you cared about that instead of your height. I wish you cared more about the fact that you're not a good person..and just not intelligent, and just not smart, or wise, or competent, or aware, or anything. I wish you cared about that sort of stuff, but no, you just care about height. Blah, blah, blah. Enjoy your miserable, fuckin, vain life. Buster. Lol

>>81799670
Your comments dont apply to me, since im quite ugly and a creep.
But
>have alright or average face cards
You and i both know thats nearly not enough

>>81799682
Yout cant become competent or smart, thats something youre born with.

>>81799595
It's beyond fucking over holy shit

>>81799705
Well, pretty much every single actually intelligent person would disagree with you, and I'm not gonna trust some random idiot, aka you, over all the various intelligent people throughout history that have directly, blatantly said, studying and effort beats natural talents. I mean literally every single genius throughout history has said something among that line pretty much. I mean you look at the current literally smartest person in the world, Jeffrey Alan Ford, who has been tested at MENSA as having literally one of the highest IQs verified. He directly himself says, people that think it all comes from natural ability are dumb. I trust him way over some random 4chan poster idiot that, for some reason, wants to convince himself that there is absolutely no chance for anyone ever to develop or grow as a person, probably because you don't want to risk actually trying to do that, and so you're convincing yourself and others that it's impossible. Well, I'm not convinced.

>>81799137 (OP)
>5'9
>Could easily LL to 6'0
What's stopping you? Debtmaxx it if you have to.

>>81799820
because it's dangerous?
and yes i have no money for it

>>81799797
except that every single prominent intelligent person was gifted in some way.

>>81799137 (OP)
i am a 5'8 socialist-leftist with autism and bpd
i use 4chan everyday and i have a girlfriend
your height isnt the problem, you just have to keep trying

>>81799523
Nothing wrong with looking young, everything wrong with wanting to look like a faggot, that just makes you gay

>>81799595
>Theres a girl i liked and she was 6ft5
Fewer than 1 in 5 million women are that tall. So you either met someone with an extreme abnormality who will probably, unfortunately, die early; or you're talking about a tranny.
As for women who are taller than 5'9", that's only 10% of women.

>This never ever happens.
What's the population of the city you live in?

>>81799318
that was a good movie.

>>81799137 (OP)
>i want to kill myself because i'm a 5'9 manlet
You are still taller than most guys

>>81799844
wanna know how they became gifted?? through studying and practice, Not ONE smart person throughout history slacked on studying. Again, you can literally ask, you know, actual smart people, they themselves say, people like you are retarded and wrong, and i agree with them, lol. Btw, why would you trust your own opinion (after you yourself said you are retarded) Geez, if intelligence is immutable as you say, WHY would you question the countless braniacs who say you're wrong? Again, allan ford called your mindset retarded, multiple times, and hes mesna verifed, so.......IF you are correct, we shouldnt beleive you. and if not, we shouldnt. Anyways, keep pretending intelligence is static, even tho actual smart people laugh at that notion, lol

>be me, 5'8 and autistic (diagnosed, two diagnosed parents)
>have had sex with 8 women
>have had three girlfriends
>go outside
>see men my height also with girlfriends
>go to local gig last night
>one metal band has a female bassist, hot goth chick
>notice when the next band on shes with her 5'8 bf, she is 5'6
>my current gf is 5'9

you niggas pmo, ive been on this whack board for 13 years and yous endlessly spout the same shit despite it not really being true. Yeah it filters some women out but its not like every single below 6'0 man is permafucked, I could have had more sex and gfs if I wasn't autistic

>>81799705
>competent
lol.
>or smart
have you ever read a book?

>>81799904
glad to see im not the only anon here that understands this

>>81799862
But i never said i wanted to look like a faggot??

>>81799903
So you're saying actual retards can become scientists if they wanted to?

>>81799160
>>81799318
I see manlets get laid all the time and I'm 6 foot.

>>81799354
>grow a huge beard

Yes, become an "I'M OVERCOMPENSATING!" beacon is good advice. Throw in some tribal tattoos to that for good measure, for that 100% NPC retard look.

>>81799137 (OP)
I'm 5'4" and have had 2 gfs. You are literally cucking yourself for no reason.

>>81799960
Jeffery allan ford and Rainman were autistic.
John nash was schizophrenic. Einstine had dyslexia. Temple Grandin was autistic. Daniel Tammet, aspergers. You also didnt answer: Smart people say you are wrong, consistently. Why should i believe some random idiot (you) over them??? Hint : I shouldnt

>>81800183
Learning disabilities exist idiot. No one's with a learning disability is going to perform as well as someone without one

>>81800284
and yet, the people without learning disabilities, who study science, have high iqs, say YOU ARE WRONG, ya hear that? The so claimed "highly inteeligent caste." say YOU are FUCKING RETARDED. Answer that one. WHY do ALL these geniuses throughout history call your beleif system retarded? Hint : Because it is. Anyways, keep on pretending people dont change, i unfortunately have, you know, eyes, and can observe how stupid you really are, OP. :)

>>81800324
It's just gaslighting desu
There is no proof.

>>81799137 (OP)
Dw OP, im a lonely sack of suicidal shit being tall; and seen men outside easily get with people being around or below your height.

Just don't suck and you'll find someone, believe me

>>81800341
oh ok, so smart people just say youre fucking retarded and wrong all the time, but lets just play fantasy pretend times and make beleive they dont so you can keep living in your shitty worldview, unpeterbed. Needless to say: Imma trust actual genuises over some random retard manlet like you. :) Its especially funny to note there is a direct correlation between people that think intelligence is static and actually having a low iq. Higher iq people generally beleive that intelligence is HIGHLY alterable, while retards dont, lol

>>81800628
you still haven't provided any proof

>>81800644
k.
>https://www.wired.com/2008/04/gs-04thinkpositive/
>https://nypost.com/2024/12/10/health/scientists-pinpoint-key-attribute-of-people-with-willpower/
>Carol Dweck's foundational research indicates that students with a growth mindset tend to embrace challenges, persist through difficulties, and view effort as a path to mastery. This mindset has been linked to improved academic outcomes. For instance, a study analyzing data from 147,000 10th graders in Chile found that students who believed their intelligence could grow achieved higher academic success, even when controlling for socioeconomic status .
Verified by: SAGE Journals and Scientific American
>Additionally, an intervention study demonstrated that teaching students about the brain's ability to grow and adapt led to improved math grades over two years, particularly among those with a growth mindset .
Verified by: ScienceDirect
>Conversely, individuals with a fixed mindset may perceive challenges as threats, leading to avoidance behaviors and decreased academic performance. Research has shown that such individuals are more likely to give up after setbacks and may experience lower self esteem following academic failures .
Verified by: BioMed Central, Scientific American and SAGE Journals
>Neurocognitive studies suggest that a growth mindset can enhance brain plasticity, leading to better cognitive performance. For example, individuals with a growth mindset have shown increased brain activity in areas associated with learning and problem solving, indicating that their belief in the malleability of intelligence may facilitate cognitive development .
Verified by: Scientific American
lol

>>81799862
>1 in 5 million women are that tall. So you either met someone with an extreme abnormality who will probably, unfortunately, die early
No its quite common where i live,as a 6ft1 man im litterally a manlet

>>81800702
where does it say that I can do as well as someone without a learning disability?

>>81799924
Poor trolling attempt. Reading wont make you smart. Neither will getting a degree btw.
>>81800183
All of those had extremely high iqs aka something you get at birth

I will die alone because God made me 5'7"

>>81800737
multiple posts prior where i clearly listed out a number of autistic scientists, Mr. Retard. Dyselexia, ADHD, Autism, Aspergers, a variety of other mental health disabilities, physical disabilities, yep, scientists throughout history have had an assortment of learning disabilities, lol :)

>>81800784
they had high IQs which is determined by genes

>>81800799
Here is a man with down syndrome working as a scientist. Hes smarter then you, please do note, partially due to his fundamentally better mindset :)
https://www.dsworkfit.org.uk/2017/05/04/ben-flourishes-at-the-national-laboratory-service/
Pretty neat yeh? wanna keep embarrasing yourself or you good here?

>>81800813
>bro just be born a genius bro its that easy : )
Do they really?

>>81800799
>https://www.verywellmind.com/what-factors-determine-intelligence-2795285?
>In summary, the relationship between genetics and intelligence is intricate. While genetics provide a foundation, environmental factors *significantly* influence the expression of cognitive abilities. Therefore, *intelligence cannot be attributed solely to genetics*; it is the result of a dynamic interplay between our genetic makeup and our experiences.
ok, you wanna continue this humiliation ritual, or are you ready to get off the ride yet?

>>81799147
Has it ever not been? 6' is the cutoff if you're white. Maybe 6'2" now. Even women are 5'9".

>>81800834
Sounds like you're a bit confused. Maybe you're rating yourself 3 inches taller than you are. 6' is still good, even in scandanavian countries.

>>81800825
>While genetics provide a foundation,
>genetics provide a foundation
Do you read what you post?

>>81800853
No its not. Everyone considers 6 and 6.1 to be short af. Any girl is 6ft these days
t.6.1 in benelux

>>81799147
>none of you fucks on this board have any actual issues.
Yep. They have to create made up issues as an excuse for why they suck at everything.

>>81800866
did YOU?
>*intelligence can not be attributed soleyy to genetics"
Maybe YOU got a learning disability, like dylexia, dont worry, pleanty of great scientists had learning disabilities tho. Wanna get more excersise in changing those goalposts?

>>81800878
>solely
Way of outing yourself
Thanks for proving my point btw
>bro just be born a genius

To reiterate the argument up to this point...
>"Noooooo! u cant become smort, u either iz or aint!!!"
"Actual smart people disagree."
>"NOoooooo! they "gifted" !
"Because they study."
>"Um, um um.... *ignores post* "Well retards cant become scientusts!"
*list of scientists with learning disabilities.*
>"Nooooooooooo! *ignores post again.*
*reiteration of how many, many verified high iq people expresly say you are wrong.*
>NO NO NO NO! *ignores post once again.*
*reiterates again that most actual smart people disagree with you*
>"P-p-p-p-p-p-p-p-PROOFS?"
*Posts proof.*
>"NOOOOOOOOOO *ignores post again.*
*reiteration of main points.*
>"Buh buh GEENS!!!"
*clear rebuttle of that notion with sources.* and also
*another peice of evidence dismantling and destroying your argument.*
>NOOOOOOOOOOOOO *ignores post again.*
lol

>>81800887
a minor typo is nothing compaired to your illogical. Its like saying
>2 and 2 is five
and someone responds
>No, tahts wrong
and responding
>OOH YOU MADE DA TYPO OH NOES DAT MEANS I WIN ME RIGHT HA HA
No, you're still wrong, still retarded, and the fact you grasp at straws like minor typo errors just shows you have no actual weight to your argument. May as well just wave the white flag of surrender in this argument, anon. When all you have left are calling out minor typos, then you have lost, lol

>>81800924
From your own posts
>being high iq provides a foundation from becoming a genius but you also have to study
>but you need to be born a genius with high iq

>>81800945
I didnt even notice the typo just pointing that out that
>having a high iq isnt enough to become a genius but its still a prerequisite
>ie if youre born average or a tard youre fucked

>>81800960
>Threshold Hypothesis study
Above an IQ of ~120, there's little to no correlation between IQ and creativity.
>Terman Study (Genetic Studies of Genius)
Lewis Terman followed 1,500 high-IQ children (IQ >135) for decades. None became Nobel Prize winners. Meanwhile, two boys rejected from the study due to "low IQ" did win Nobel Prizes (Luis Alvarez and William Shockley). Conclusion: High IQ didn't guarantee groundbreaking achievement, other traits mattered more.
>Case Studies of "Low-IQ" Geniuses
Richard Feynman: Nobel-winning physicist, IQ around 125, high but not prodigy level.
wanna contuine your free of charge humiation ritual? :)

>>81800969
just keep on telling yourself that, the rest of us are gonna go develop and grow as humans through studying, tata and farewell, enjoy life pretending people dont change. (they do :)

>>81800990
>High IQ didn't guarantee
But
>While genetics provide a foundation for the expression of cognitive abilities.
That from your own posts kek
>IQ around 125
>bro just be hpi
Ok thanks for disproving your own posts
>>81800995
I dont see your point. Ive got an average degree and an average job wth am i supposed to do. Ditch everything and try to get a phd in neurophysics to pretend to be smart?

>>81801025
you fucking retard, the post you are referencing CLEAR AS DAY SAYS
>Genetics are NOT completely reponsable for determining IQ
How dumb are you? No seriously, DO you have dyslexia? You clearly cant read...
>DUUUURRR I MISINTERPRET YOUR POSTS SO THAT MEANS IM RITE!!!
Retard.

>>81801046
>NOT completely
So you dont even know what you post?

>>81801061
Bro, YOU said that genes determine IQ, i posted proof thats not true, its that simple. Your argument is dead in the water and at this point i honestly cant tell if you are pretending to be retarded as ragebait, or if you ACTUALLY are this dumb, which is it? You tell me.

>>81801073
>YOU said that genes determine IQ
My first reply to you is >>81800814 this one
From your own posts
>genetics arent completely responsible for a high iq
So its genetics combined to other stuff probably your environment, how you were raised as a small child, which hs you went to etc.
Also answer>>81801025
Wth are you spamming about muh studying, am i supposed to waste 10+ years of my life ald all of my savings to go back to uni and unsuccessfully study some shit i hate.
What for? To pretend to be smart?

Watching this thread is like watching a tard wrangler try to argue with their tard, while the tard just sticks his fingers in their hears going
>LA LA LA LA cant hear yoooooou
Anon, if you read this, just know OP is a lost cause, hes not arguing in good faith, that said, keep going, im entertained

>>81800875
Benelux is brutal.

Honestly, at this point I'm ok to settle as 5'9. I hate being a fucking midget. At least at 5'9, I'd be a respectable incel.

>>81801099
Putting aside our personal arguments and conflicts here for right now, if you want my honest advice on how to become genuinely smarter, then any time you spend studying, or reading, or looking into stuff that you don't have information on, you will develop more information on it, and you will therefore become more knowledgeable about the world, and therefore smarter. It's that simple. So you can take any topic that you want, it doesn't have to be 10 years, it can be any amount of time. Anything that you want, you can learn more about it, yes, and therefore become smarter.

>>81799137 (OP)
I would kill you with my own hands if I could steal your height. I would literally give away everything I have to be 5'9.

>>81801136
why would you want to be 5'9 when you could wish to be 6'

>>81801124
>you spend studying, or reading, or looking into stuff that you don't have information on
Thats my job. I dont want to do spend whatever little time i have left researching meaningless shit for the sake of pretending to be smart online.
>10 years, it can be any amount of time. Anything that you want,
All of your posts where about reading muh books, doing endless studying.
I have a full time gig and i frankly dont have the time and the energy to do anything more than browse shit during my commute.
Also and most importantly since were in an incel thread no girls cares about cool fish facts and no girl has any interest of the sort.

>>81801164
Dont wish to be only 6ft its meaningless. Ideally you keed to be 190cm and above

>>81801164
Because I'm 5'3 and even being 5'9 would massively change my life.

>>81801164
It's barganing with whatever higher power is out there. If you beg for 6'4 it sounds like you're taking the piss. If you beg for 5'9 it sounds like you're asking for a humble life.

Irregardless, I'm 5'7 and I would drink my cum in order to become 6'4

>>81801202
>>81801214
5'9 and 5'3 are literally the same height to women

>>81801172
this is a whole different argument anon, i didnt say most people had time to study that often in the first place, but that is a whole different topic in a way

>>81801243
I gotta be real if you bro, if you were 5'3 you would completely understand. Truecels are not as concerned about finding love per se, but longing for being an invisible normie. When your genetics are so fucked up, you become a circus clown everywhere you talk, people take pictures of you without your consent, NO ONE takes you seriously. It's hell on earth.

>>81799160
it's not. get your fucking ass up. you're probably not even "ugly". you probably have a "normal" brain. why am i even trying. this is the board for misanthropes. fuck this garbage thread.

>>81801406
I have ADD and i am schizotypal

>>81801414
>I have ADD and i am schizotypal
oh, wow. carry on then. i'm tired of the normalniggers just saying nonsense here.

>>81799137 (OP)
Wtf my bf is 5'9, the American people are retarded and insane 5'9 is reasonably tall for a woman, I get to wear my very tall demonias with my bf and he is still taller than me

>>81799137 (OP)
I understand. I'm a 5'11 manlet too and life is eternal pain.

Manlet tier starts at 5'5 by the way. If you're 5'9 or above you're not a "manlet" you're just average.

>>81799147
5'9" is female height in europe, you don't even register as a human

>>81799147
Sure they do, anon. They're all autistic. That's the real problem.