fembots, does vaginal penetration actually feel that good?

the vast majority videos of women masturbating to orgasm involve them focusing entirely on the clitoris. I understand most can't orgasm from penetration alone, but I would think if presentation felt really good they'd do both when they masturbate to increase the intensity of it. so that makes me think penetration isn't all that great.

>>81806322 (OP)
y'all should be impaled on a pike

>>81806322 (OP)
i lost my virginity to a dildo because porn made me think that penetration was something amazing but it sucks and i have not inserted anything in several months. the clitoris is everything

why do you care about the pleasure of foids?

>>81806322 (OP)
penetration does feel good but as a raging coomer, i can live without it. i can't live without rubbing my clit. i masturbate every day. i would describe using a vibrator on my clit as the most pleasurable thing ever. i have done it like thousands of times at this point and it still makes me cum so intensely. it doesn't get old. i always masturbate by playing with my clit. i have never orgasmed without clitoral stimulation. i enjoy how a cock feels inside my pussy but i don't like dildos. i bought one and did not use it more than i can count on one hand for penetration. do you know what else i use it for? i just rub my clit with it, that feels so much better than fucking myself with it. a dildo doesn't have the warmth, texture and most importantly, cum a dick has. i think the pleasure of being penetrated is largely psychological. if i am very attracted to a man, i crave his dick inside me. but i don't care about the sensation itself enough to fuck myself while masturbating.

>>81806322 (OP)
I like the thought of it but the real penetration doesn't live up to my imagination. Stimulating the clit while fantasizing about sex feels better than real sex.

>>81806580
You need a pelvis grinding into your clit while you're getting fucked

>>81806454
have you tried targeting the fornix?

>>81806322 (OP)
Yes it feels good, ori ori

>>81806322 (OP)
They do feel good but you have to make them have a clitoral orgasm and then immediately insert your dick on her wet pussy and fuck it so it has a vaginal orgasm.
There is no better guarantee a pussy is ready to be fucked by giving a woman a clitoral orgasm.

>>81806454
>a dildo doesn't have the warmth, texture and most importantly, cum a dick has.

can you elaborate on what it is about the cum you like so much

this bums me out so much.

i love fucking pussy so much. my dick in a warm wet pussy is the best. i wish it was for her too.

but i also like eating pussy, especially from behind, so it's ok. i just yearn for a mutual craving of a good dicking.

nature is cruel

>>81806733
This is difficult to do, but the most amazing feel ever

>>81806322 (OP)
This depends on the woman.

>>81806341
For me the clitoris isn't everything, but it's like 90%

If I'm masturbating i'll use my vibrator until I cum and then 40% of the times then I'll fuck myself with my dildo after cumming. It does feel good, just won't make me cum.

>if penetration felt really good they'd do both when they masturbate

I actually never do this either in masturbation or sex cause it makes it a bit harder to concentrate on the clit

>>81806941
>This depends on the woman
yes of course. just soliciting different perspectives.

>>81806941
>then 40% of the times then I'll fuck myself with my dildo after cumming.
never before?

>>81806999
Sometimes if I'm extremely horny. I mostly just want penetration when I'm extra horny. The more aroused I am, the more I want the dick.

my gf cums really easily from penetration
In general it depends on the woman and what you're inserting and how.

>>81806733
no. i love big dicks aesthetically but in practice, they are actually not optimal. i don't fuck with deep penetration. i feel the most enjoyable sensation around the entrance. i also don't think doing that would help me orgasm.
>>81806833
orgasm is literally the goal of sex. cum is the materialization of an orgasm. it is the giver of life. i like that it will breed me if it goes inside me. i like how it looks if it goes elsewhere on my body. i love making a man cum. it is always a wonderful sight.

>>81807054
are you sure she does or is she just lying to you cause that sounds really likely

>>81806322 (OP)
Well I enjoy it, but I also get off on fornix play. I understand that the extreme majority of other women, it's all about the clit

>>81806322 (OP)
it feels good in the way that sex acts not involving your dick feel good, like kissing
this should be easy to understand if you think about humans' anatomy

>>81806454
Is the moaning just a larp or is it a real uncontrollable thing

>>81806322 (OP)
It feels good but I can't really orgasm unless I'm basically masterbating while its happening

>>81806322 (OP)
Dildos feel like cut cock so not great

>>81808085
This. Only the foreskin fold of an unmutilated White Man penis can adequately fondle and stimulate my clitoris, as a sexy female.

>>81806322 (OP)
MtF here, it feels like getting assfucked.

>>81806454
Guys we can have this too just get a Hitachi magic wand and hold it to your frenulum, it's amazing. I haven't cummed from normal stroking in months

>>81806580
This but with anal.
I really like the thought of it but in practice it's not nearly as good as in my head for whatever reason.

>>81808181
Why did you even feel the need to comment? You're not even being addressed by the OP.

>>81808322
yoownnnbawwwwww!!!

>>81808181
very high tier bait
i commend you

>>81807059
>orgasm is literally the goal of sex
respectfully disagree

>>81807040
>I mostly just want penetration when I'm extra horny.
how often are you extra horny

is this dick hungry

>>81807059
>no. i love big dicks aesthetically but in practice, they are actually not optimal. i don't fuck with deep penetration. i feel the most enjoyable sensation around the entrance. i also don't think doing that would help me orgasm.
If you really are a woman then why not try it?
>>81806915 speaks highly of it

>>81808775
for real? i thought the pussy would feel like something heavy hitting you and it's almost impossible to not cum, especially if you're a beginner

This post ruffled some feathers

>>81806322 (OP)
I've never had sex but I've put things inside and it feels insanely good.
But I can only cum if my hand hits my clit at the same time as the penetration (just lightly hitting is enough).
I think I could learn to cum from penetration 'cause I feel like I'm right there almost over the edge, but gotta practice.

>>81806341
>>81806454
>>81806580
So when I have sex how do I use my dick on her clit so that she'll cum I don't watch that much porn do you need to use your hands or oral

>>81808932 (Me)
I have a question for virgin maleanons.
Do you ever try to jerk off in a rhythm and tighness that would be realistic to real sex, rather than super hard and fast?
Can you cum from it?

>>81806322 (OP)
i have only tried it a few times but but penetration does literally nothing for me. its just mildly uncomfortable, sometimes painful if its an an object much bigger than my fingers, and it makes me feel like im damaging my insides somehow. i find the idea of it hot, ironically im usually thinking about being penetrated when i masturbate, but i hate the sensation of anything inside me

>>81806322 (OP)
my only vaginal experience has been with a trans guy, and he was very easy to get off with my phat twink dick. Most of the clitoris is internal, and the Skene's gland (female prostate) is also in there

>>81806322 (OP)
It depends and is different for every woman, but me personally? Dont really get the hype. It hurts stretching and once i get my finger in it doesnt feel good at all. I only focus on my clit using my vibrators. Clit stimulation feels like heaven.

>>81808978
That only work if I'm really pent up, otherwise hasty death grip is the only way to get off without jerking off for 45 minutues. a lot of the time jerking off is just a sleep aid so getting it done fast is better (for me anyway). But yeah, if I have sex with a woman one day I might be one of those guys who can't get off with another human so that might suck.

>>81808246
Ive been using just a shitty 5 dollar massage vibrator thing for that and it feels good up until I nut. The orgasm feels so much worse than usual but the buildup is 10 times better.
Why? Is this normal? How can I fix this? Do I just need to get a more expensive vibrator?

>>81806454
Ive had probably around 1500 clitoral orgasms in my life and maybe three vaginal orgasms. Vaginal orgasms in the g spot feel way better than the average clitoral orgasm (with exceptions) sad that a lot of women will only get clitoral.

I feel way more pleasure doing pentrative stuff even without an orgasm compared to touching my clit. Sometimes ill masturbate without touching my clit and only doing penetration for days lmao. Human bodies are so different

I was told by a girl that she likes it when I rub her clit while making sex with her from behind. Doing it this way makes it alot easier to cum in her at the same time as she orgasms which is really cute.

>>81809517
Oh brother yeah get a magic wand. My vibrator orgasms are primo except I feel like a bit of a bitch afterwards >>81808978
Most of us has probably used a Fleshlight to cum which is kinda similar to what you're describing but softer and with a more satisfying texture

>>81808074
Nobody answered my question, is the moaning part something uncontrollable that happens for women?

>>81810092
Its a larp thing. The most you'll that isn't faked is a whisper and then like a whimper. Nobody is screaming bloody murder

>>81810092
Mostly larp I think. Most I ever get is like a vocal grunt or groan but not full on moaning

Because the point of sex for us isn't the orgasm. It's the bonding experience which makes it feel greater. Yes, being fucked feels great and getting cummed in (since I got the IUD and my fiance has had a vasectomy) feels so much better. However, the bond we have with each other and the mutual pleasure and the post sex cuddles is what makes it pure bliss and so much better than orgasming from a vibrator. I found this out when my fiance proposed and he took my virginity that night. I already used dildos and vibrators in the past. We've been engaged for a year. We're set to be married next March.

I hate men for this reason. They always take sex like from your point of view: as if orgasms are the end-all, be-all. It's not like that with us. We can go without it unlike you men.

>>81810189
not OP but my exe enjoyed the orgasm as much as the emotional closeness and passionate cuddling after
she'd get upset with me if I didn't make her cum at least once a day

>>81810189
you don't hate men you stupid bitch you just wrote a whole paragraph about letting one cum inside you

>>81806333
Why impaled on a pike? Why is it le bad to talk about sex?

>>81810092
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Female_copulatory_vocalizations

>>81808978
>Do you ever try to jerk off in a rhythm and tighness that would be realistic to real sex, rather than super hard and fast?
I don,'t know what real sex is like, so idk. But desu a lot of the time I just jerk off by putting my hand on my dick and then thrusting my hips, which I assume is comparable.
>Can you cum from it?
Yes.

>>81810605
Women moan so they can cuck you, very sad

my gf cums very easily from penetration, much more easily than me.
It may because I have average dick (about 16cm long/15cm girth) while she's 148 cm high, so I'm always stretching her out

>>81806633
this
women too short for my dick didnt cum, even through months or years

raging coomer here, sorry for the late response i was sleeing.
>>81808074
personally, as someone who masturbates every day, i am used to doing it as quietly as possible so no one in the house to hear a thing. i don't really moan as i am rubbing my clit despite the fact it feels so fucking good. the noises i find difficult to suppress are when i am about to cum. at that point, my breathing gets too heavy and i can't help but grunt. porn moaning is exaggerated. i do like sex noises though and being alone with a guy thus able to be noisy feels nice. but you won't be screaming like a banshee or anything, that's not authentic. it's just a performance pornstars do to titillate the audience.
>>81808246
i love focusing on stimulating the frenulum. one of my favorite things to do is to rub myself over the dick and it feels mindblowing when my clit brushes up against the frenulum. i also like to lick it while sucking dick, criminally underrated. people are too focused on deepthroating but all the guys i've had sex with enjoyed it when i paid more attention to the sensitive parts of the dick instead of trying to gobble the whole thing.
>>81808515
what else would it be?
>>81808775
why would i try to fuck myself deep enough to hit the fornix? like i said, i don't like deep penetration. it does not sound pleasant.
>>81808963
there are a lot of ways to stimulate the clit during sex don't worry. you can do something like this >>81809664. she can reach down and rub it herself while you fuck her. you can use a vibrator. sometimes the clit will brush up against you or get stimulated indirectly in specific positions which can also help her cum. ask your partner how she likes it.
>>81809640
>>81810189
i see. i am a woman but i am also very orgasm focused, i see no point in masturbation or sex if it will not directly help me cum. i get very frustrated if i can't cum. it is the most important part of intimacy for me.

not a woman but i have done a bit of assplay and hope found penetration pretty disappointing, you'rd think you'd feel more on the inside but you don't, it's the just pressure around the hole,. i imagine it's the same with a vagina cause they put tampons in there and feel nothing, if it really is all about the clit it's no wonder many women have trouble achieving an orgasm

>>81806322 (OP)
It feels great but not enough to make me orgasm

Surprisingly, this topic doesn't have orgasm bias towards women and there's even a supposed woman who enjoys male pleasure.

What a good day without Satan's gelid presence

>>81810652
Life is cruel, mate.

>>81806454
>i have never orgasmed without clitoral stimulation
>>81807059
>i love big dicks aesthetically but in practice, they are actually not optimal
My ex said the same things almost word for word before we got together and then she ended up cumming the first time I fucked her. She was trying to dirty talk towards the end but she was just mumbling and drooling. I was like might as well cum in her now so we cum at the same time, and after I got up she just rolled over and started humming after like a minute. She'd just giggle and say it was too embarrassing to talk about afterwards

>>81811402
>what else would it be?
well for me and some other posters in the thread it seems it's about the pleasure and sensations involved with sex itself. orgasming is just one component. they're certainly great but it's not the "literally the goal" as you said for myself. for me it's about making my partner feel really good for an extended period of time, sharing our bodies with each other, bringing us closer. if for whatever reason an orgasm don't happen i didn't consider it wasted time.

>>81813817
larp detected. Post dick or fuck off retard.

I've had one girlfriend out of 6 who was able to orgasm easily from penetration. her pussy was always wet and ready to go at the drop of a hat lmao. i'm pretty sure it was something about her vulva's anatomy. i think the size and placement of her clit had a lot to do with it, it was a larger clit that kind of stuck out (which i always found really hot actually). also i don't know how exactly to say it without it sounding like a criticism which it honestly isn't but her whole vulva, like the skin, was very mobile so i think her clitoris moved around a lot during sex. I'm not doing a good job of describing it. some girls vulvas/pussies are quite "taut" if that makes sense. i love all pussies.

>>81813924
Why are you so interested in my dick, anon?

>>81806454
god i hate being male

>>81806454
I want to use you like a fleshlight

>>81806454
Using this answer what would you say what we should be actually doing during sex?

dont want to fuck up during my first time

>>81814532
You realize this is trivial for men to do as well, right?

I refuse to believe there are so many foids itt even if ugly ones doesn't matter

but for good measure...YWNBAW

Sex is mostly a male centric activity unironically.

Men have overwhelmingly higher sex drives ( look up the sex drive and testesterone wiki )

Woman for the most part dont really care in a long term relationship. Which is why most relationships end up in a dead bedrooms

This is common knowledge

>>81815555
>Woman for the most part dont really care in a long term relationship. Which is why most relationships end up in a dead bedrooms
you realize you're telling on yourself with this post right?

women are extremely horny by nature. their pussies are literally made for cocks and cum.

men usually fuck it up in relationships by being retards and that's what kills the sex. if you don't fuck the relationship up, they keep wanting to fuck. a lot.

speaking as one of the many male retards that has done this.

>>81815555
True until tattoo Chad arrives

>>81815555
>muh lower sex drive
Unironically a skill issue. If they're attracted to you and you fuck them well, women have insatiable sex drives. The perception of men having higher sex drives and women having lower sex drives comes from women needing a bit of work to keep their drive up while men are pretty much always DTF.

>>81806333
Well yes that is the question before us isn't it.

How is sex real? Like, how are there people out there who just get to have sex more or less whenever they want it?

What about leg shaking? If a girl tells you it's very hard for her to orgasm but then has sex in missionary for like 3 minutes and starts shaking her legs, is that a larp? I felt like it was a larp.