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Anonymous
7/13/2025, 7:09:41 PM No.81814770
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What factual beliefs are your bare minimum baseline to consider someone worthy of any intellectual respect?

I know many will say mine are "reddit" but not believing something because redditors are stupid and annoying is even more stupid and annoying than being a redditor. Redditors just came to their beliefs through luck and osmosis instead of consideration.

Dealbreakers:

>Any sort of theistic belief, and anything beyond a "well we must show some humility when it comes to the ultimate nature of reality" <p(0.01) deistic stance

>Anything other than materialism/physicalism/naturalism beyond the quasi-deistic humility caveat above

>Any kind of stance like dualism or panpsychism

>Any kind of woo-woo belief like ESP, astrology, crystal healing, palm reading

>Belief that UFO/UAPs are explained by extraterrestrial, extradimensional, or extratemporal beings

>Belief in any conspiracy theory at all, with only a minuscule few as exceptions where "well it could be plausible/it isn't completely crazy to consider" could possibly be acceptable

>Belief that the COVID-19 mRNA vaccines caused or contributed to more than 500 deaths in the United States (the real number is far lower but that's just where I cap my benefit of the doubt towards you)

>Belief that MMR vaccines cause autism

>Belief that humans aren't playing a significant role in global warming via emissions of greenhouse gases into the atmosphere

>Belief, at any point, that Craig Wright is likely Satoshi Nakamoto
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Anonymous
7/13/2025, 7:11:31 PM No.81814791
(By factual beliefs I mean "empirical beliefs", as opposed to values or preferences or moral judgments.)
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Anonymous
7/13/2025, 7:12:00 PM No.81814796
>>81814770 (OP)
>factual
>beliefs
I believe proper communication is the minimum baseline. Get a paper copy of the Merriam-Webster dictionary and read it cover to cover
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Anonymous
7/13/2025, 7:12:42 PM No.81814805
>>81814796
I corrected it here >>81814791

The phrasing is valid but ambiguous
Anonymous
7/13/2025, 7:36:27 PM No.81815047
>>81814770 (OP)
>>Any sort of theistic belief, and anything beyond a "well we must show some humility when it comes to the ultimate nature of reality" <p(0.01) deistic stance
>>Anything other than materialism/physicalism/naturalism beyond the quasi-deistic humility caveat above
probably right in this as in people following or believing the general mainstream religions
if God that created space time all this bullshit it's probably our comprehension to even understand and any attempt in doing so is just delusions at this point, whatever created all this is effectively God anyway so to speak, it's a pointless discussion to have for humans, it's not even entertaining

>>Any kind of stance like dualism or panpsychism
looks retarded too tired to research

>>Any kind of woo-woo belief like ESP, astrology, crystal healing, palm reading
more shit for sluts yeah

>>Belief that UFO/UAPs are explained by extraterrestrial, extradimensional, or extratemporal beings
is?
why do you rule out things? it might be government testing or natural phenomenons but you cannot rule out more fun takes, like ayy's, starting to drift off at this point

>>Belief in any conspiracy theory at all, with only a minuscule few as exceptions where "well it could be plausible/it isn't completely crazy to consider" could possibly be acceptable
now you are trailing off since everything these days is marked as conspiracy if something needs to be shut down
you denying any form of discussion here does not benefit you only your superiors who want to shut it down

>>Belief that the COVID-19 mRNA vaccines caused or contributed to more than 500 deaths in the United States (the real number is far lower but that's just where I cap my benefit of the doubt towards you)
who does your belief benefit? you are arguing for the benefit of trillion dollar companies and your rulers again, you are becoming lower iq by the second
I haven't looked into the stats since the coof popped off, but it was a global wide psyop

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Anonymous
7/13/2025, 7:40:41 PM No.81815083
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>>81814770 (OP)
>>Belief that the COVID-19 mRNA vaccines caused or contributed to more than 500 deaths in the United States (the real number is far lower but that's just where I cap my benefit of the doubt towards you)
so most likely complications lead to deaths due to this, although who cares

>>Belief that MMR vaccines cause autism
haven't looked into it, no idea
unless taken from birth and effect development before adult? maybe? idk
don't know

>>Belief that humans aren't playing a significant role in global warming via emissions of greenhouse gases into the atmosphere
who does your belief serve? again, your ruling class. you sucking their cock does not help you. only serves to cuck you. don't eat meat, don't fly, don't go outside your designated 1.5km walkable city and so on, or whatever the goal is soon
you are sucking their cock again

>>Belief, at any point, that Craig Wright is likely Satoshi Nakamoto
looks like the glownigs created btc, idk
not looked into it


Brief summary, you seem to want to be an intellectual superior or whatever but many of your beliefs only exist to serve your superiors
you seem lower iq than you think
overall, you are not a person I would associate with in any way shape or form since you lack iq and critical thinking

much love
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Anonymous
7/13/2025, 7:58:05 PM No.81815279
Fauci 15 days
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>>81814770 (OP)
Do you think Dr. Fauci was being entirely truthful about Covid?
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Anonymous
7/13/2025, 8:00:49 PM No.81815306
>>81815047
I'll happily bet anyone $50,000 that there will be no evidence of extraterrestrials having visited Earth by 2050. That's what I mean by that.
Anonymous
7/13/2025, 8:06:11 PM No.81815373
>>81815083
>>Belief that humans aren't playing a significant role in global warming via emissions of greenhouse gases into the atmosphere
>who does your belief serve? again, your ruling class. you sucking their cock does not help you. only serves to cuck you. don't eat meat, don't fly, don't go outside your designated 1.5km walkable city and so on, or whatever the goal is soon
>you are sucking their cock again
All I said was anthropogenic global warming is obviously real. You're the one adding all these other things. Facts don't care about your feelings or your evocative storytelling.

>>Belief that the COVID-19 mRNA vaccines caused or contributed to more than 500 deaths in the United States (the real number is far lower but that's just where I cap my benefit of the doubt towards you)
>who does your belief benefit? you are arguing for the benefit of trillion dollar companies and your rulers again
If only you knew how stupid you are.
Anonymous
7/13/2025, 8:13:35 PM No.81815453
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>>81815279
>Do you think Dr. Fauci was being entirely truthful about Covid?
He obviously lied about masks early on, saying they didn't work despite knowing they likely did, to try to not worsen a severe mask shortage for doctors and nurses. Everyone knows about this. Of course all the retards don't even care about this though because they stupidly think the opposite (that they lied about masks working and that they actually don't work).

(N95 masks work pretty well, especially if multiple people have them. Cloth masks highly vary but are almost always better than nothing despite always being much worse than N95 masks.)
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Anonymous
7/13/2025, 8:18:49 PM No.81815515
National-Institutes-of-Health-NIH
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>>81815453
Do you think he was lying about Gain of Function research, the wuhan institute of virology and the National Institutes of Health (NIH) funding research in Wuhan through grants?
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Anonymous
7/13/2025, 8:37:06 PM No.81815761
>>81815515
I have looked into this before and spent the past few minutes looking into it again. I am not yet certain, and it's difficult to tell since everyone has a spin in one direction or the other.

My current, not yet finalized opinion, is that he was potentially being more evasive and opaque than he should've been, but that it is true that the research he was aware of and approved of did not constitute the specific sort of coronavirus gain of function research that could plausibly cause a coronavirus to become much more infectious to humans than its initial form was, and so he was likely technically correct about not intentionally funding or knowing about the pertinent kind of gain of function research that could likely cause a human pandemic.

However, he did approve of research that involved the Wuhan Institute of Virology genetically modifying coronaviruses to study how they might replicate in the human respiratory system. And it is possible that, if there was a lab leak, it could have partly been a result of later undisclosed research by researchers funded for that project. Being technically correct is not necessarily sufficient to be in the clear.

He seems to have (eventually?) openly stated most of that, but I am not yet certain what he said and when, which could make a big difference in how candid he was being overall.

I need to better understand the exact timelines around when he disclosed and answered certain things to make a complete judgment of his honesty, transparency, and accuracy.
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Anonymous
7/13/2025, 8:48:24 PM No.81815910
>>81815761
Note that all of this is all still relevant, applicable and important even if there wasn't a lab leak

but

I will say evidence is slowly shifting more towards zoonosis and away from lab leak in even the contrarian intellectual spheres. Lab leak is certainly still plausible - neither scenario can be ruled out and we'll likely never know for sure which it was - but I think it's worth mentioning that if it wasn't a lab leak or otherwise caused by the lab or its work, then the worst case (which itself may not be very true) would be Fauci covering his ass out of fear rather than potentially accidentally helping cause the worst pandemic in ages. So, if true, that would change the stakes. And if it was neither a lab leak nor truly misleading dishonesty (as opposed to the other option of somewhat evasive language alongside upfront admission of facts) then this particular topic would pretty much be a nothingburger beyond "ehh he was being a bit too political in his wording" since it's just a matter of if non-pathogenicity-increasing genetic manipulation of pathogens should still fall under gain of function research if new functionality is technically being added to the pathogen. Fauci says it doesn't, others say it does, either way it's kind of boring if that's the only point of contention since the actual thing anyone cares about is whether or not they helped facilitate the cause of a pandemic.
Anonymous
7/13/2025, 9:00:37 PM No.81816035
>>81814770 (OP)
I believe all of these except the last one, no idea who those people are.
My dealbreakers are:
Thinks the holohoax was real
Atheism
Believes all "races" are the same/humanity is one species
Anonymous
7/13/2025, 9:06:05 PM No.81816095
>>81814770 (OP)
I think anyone who has dealbreakers that are facts that someone thinks, and can't have a respectful discussion where they present a case instead of smugly retreating from a social interaction is someone not worthy of intellectual respect. What makes you reddit is that you ban people from your life who have different ideas.
Anonymous
7/13/2025, 9:07:07 PM No.81816106
>>81814770 (OP)
AI (read LLMs) is a useless money drain
Anonymous
7/13/2025, 9:07:18 PM No.81816111
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>>81814770 (OP)
Nigger I can tell that absolutely 0 consideration went into any part of this list. Atleast half of these beliefs have credible evidence in favor of them & some are proven. You have to be intellectually dishonest to discard them as nonsense.

>ESP proven to exist by CIA
>9/11 inside job proven
>Moon landing faked proven
>Astrology shown to be real
>NDE's shown to be real
>Reincarnation shown to be real
& I could go on
Anonymous
7/13/2025, 9:09:17 PM No.81816129
But idealism makes more sense, OP. And the supernatural exists. Telepathy is real and also the one thing that MIGHT make me not really care about someone's opinion on intellectual matters is their take on solipsism.
Anonymous
7/13/2025, 9:31:45 PM No.81816352
>>81815761
I am thinking that Dr Fauci became the face of the Covid 19 response is not despite of his connections to Wuhan but because of it. China wanted him in charge because it meant that nobody would have an incentive to pry too deeply
Anonymous
7/13/2025, 9:37:08 PM No.81816405
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>>81814770 (OP)
im not part of any of your dealbreakers op am i smart or a redditor midwit
Anonymous
7/13/2025, 9:48:13 PM No.81816519
>>Belief in any conspiracy theory at all
yea brah tower 7 just like, totally collapsed on its own, wait it was damaged by debris wait the first responders told civilians that it was a controlled demo even though that couldn't possibly be arranged in such a short amount of time uhhh... forget about it goy!!
Anonymous
7/13/2025, 9:53:15 PM No.81816588
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>>81814770 (OP)
You're just a fucking liberal spouting that you don't have respect for conservatives. You like to think you're intellectual but you've just taken a hard side on the political spectrum. Lets' just say I have no intellectual respect for YOU.
Anonymous
7/13/2025, 9:57:52 PM No.81816636
>>81814770 (OP)
I'm am intp and have never met a person who's worth talking to
Anonymous
7/13/2025, 10:31:18 PM No.81817080
I'll share some of my deal breakers.
>denies sexual dimorphism
>denies the existence of natural immunity after surviving an infection
>unironically uses the term reactionary
>doesn't understand per capita
>doesn't understand hypotheticals
>says pattern recognition is bad