realistically, what's the best way to move to the US from Eastern Europe? in terms of funding, i've got an inheritance from my family who passed, and a farm that i've put up for sale. and obviously i want to start working when i get there.

>>81816974 (OP)
>Eastern Europe
where do you wanna go, western parts (polan, czechia), balkans, baltics or russian and belarus?

>>81817027
i think you misread. i'm in Eastern Europe (Romania) and want to move to the US. i wanna do it because the war in Ukraine nuked the economy more than it already was and i feel frustrated knowing that no matter how much i work here, i'll never be close to affording the things i want or doing the things i wanna do
>inb4 the US economy is bad too
it's better and will always be better than anything here

>>81817066
>i'm in Eastern Europe (Romania) and want to move to the US
then good luck getting a greencard idk how that works
>t. yuropoor

>>81817066
The trump economy isn't much better... assuming it's better at all?

>>81817100
>idk how that works
kek that is exactly why i made this thread. i wonder if that make that information as hard and annoying to parse as possible specifically because they don't want people to leave. i just feel like i'm wasting my time here working for literal pennies.
>>81817167
see, i knew someone would say something like this hahah i really wish we could switch lives for just one day in order to show you how much you'd earn and what the average quality of life is here. because there's no way to make you realize it otherwise.

EU and Schengen area is very doable since already in EU. Nordics or Germany or such. Better than Romania and easier to get to than US

>>81817286
don't know any languages other than Romanian and English. and sadly Romania has been rejected from being in Schengen so it's not like that'd make it any easier for me. above all else, i don't like how racist people in fellow EU countries are against Romanians. The US is appealing to me because i'd pretty much be a blank slate; no pre-conceived notions, no judgment, no nothing. the average person would just be like "oh, Romania? what is that?" or "is that the place with the vampires?" god, it would feel so liberating.

>>81817414
I see, much harder without Schengen for sure.
No gypsy gangs in USA then to ruin the reputation? Could also try Dubai or the other rich Arabs. Plenty of people get lucky there

>>81816974 (OP)
honestly your best bet might be to go to South Africa and pretend to be a boer refugee. I believe they're still settling them in the US although they've stopped most other forms of "refugee" resettlement because they were all obvious scams.

>>81816974 (OP)
Best way would be to find an American woman and say you'll support her financially once you get there. Get married and get a green card. Just being realistic.

>>81817211
im in california, i have been behind on rent multiple times and jobs dont want to give hours. ive not had more than $700 in one month for over 3 years. ive gone weeks where i was rationing instant noodles, maruchan brand. NTA, just saying.

>>81817211
People who haven't lived in 3rd world countries as a local don't understand how ridiculously bad life is there.

>>81816974 (OP)
I got to America on a tourist visa paid some lawyer to help me get a ssn and I worked under the table until I got it. I still kind of have to, but man life here is so much better than the shithole I'm from.

>>81817819
>I still kind of have to
have to what?

>>81817850
It will be difficult for me to do any kind of skilled work until I get permanent residency which is a long and difficult process.

>>81817701
>No gypsy gangs in USA then to ruin the reputation?
i'm sure they exist, but the US is such a big place that they're too small and insignificant to ruin our reputation in any meaningful way there, at least compared to other types of organized crime in the states.
>Could also try Dubai or the other rich Arabs. Plenty of people get lucky there
i remember Dubai being the "dream" place everyone here would talk about moving to when i was a kid. maybe i'm just being paranoid, but the Arab countries seem scary because they seem like the kinds of places where you make one single mistake and they'll give you the death penalty without a second thought.
>>81817748
i remember seeing those clips of South African refugees entering the US and it made me feel so jealous kek. if only i lived in Ukraine, i could've been a war refugee, but instead i have to deal with all the consequences of the war: worse economy, less resources, poorer quality of life by the day, without the benefit of being a refugee.
>>81817768
i tried doing that on /soc/ but didn't have much luck, sadly. i wouldn't mind working my butt off to support an American woman if she actually helps me get there. i'd legit be indebted to her for life.
>>81817772
well, cali is one of the most expensive states you could live in. with $700 in one month here you'd be considered super well off.
>>81817795
right? there's a world of a difference between visiting Romania as a tourist and actually living here. i think people can't even comprehend it unless they actually live it.
>>81817819
>but man life here is so much better than the shithole I'm from.
thank you for further confirming my point KEK

>>81817795
Yes. You hear these Americans whining about how their economy sucks and it just comes across as sour grapes cause of how much nicer it actually is there. There's no comparison it's way better.

There is also way more opportunity in the USA it's kind of nuts how they do it

>>81816974 (OP)
If you want to start working asap then I recommend choosing a country where English is a common professional language. Poland and Romania have lot of English and international business these days, Croatia as well.

>>81817893
right? whether it's business opportunities or opportunities to have fun, they have it all over there. i've never been to a con, an arcade, a comic shop or an amusement park before. those places seem so magical to me, but to the average American they're just everyday conveniences.
>>81817894
i definitely need a place where English is a common professional language, because otherwise i'd be completely screwed

>>81817885
>i tried doing that on /soc/ but didn't have much luck, sadly. i wouldn't mind working my butt off to support an American woman if she actually helps me get there. i'd legit be indebted to her for life.
Try using those language learning dating apps like interpals and shit I guess. I assume if you're decent looking you'll find someone.

>>81817997
do i have a shot if i look like this? desu

>>81818027
Yeah probably but you might have to find a slightly older woman.

>>81818056
i'm okay with anyone older
here's a body pic too

>>81817885
>maybe i'm just being paranoid, but the Arab countries seem scary because they seem like the kinds of places where you make one single mistake and they'll give you the death penalty without a second thought.
I've heard that the Arab oil nations are importing tons of white guys to do various jobs because they're so rich they don't care and pay them well. So I think they're pretty careful about not charging them with silly crimes on a whim because then they'd lose their pipeline of workers.

as long as you're reasonably respectful of their culture, which most white people tend to be anyways.

>>81818113
oh, that is very good to know, actually
i know there was this one Arab prince who bought 30% of SNK's shares and then added his favorite athletes and musicians into King of Fighters just because he could. so they're probably pretty loaded

>>81816974 (OP)
>realistically, what's the best way to move to the US from Eastern Europe?
If you have some sort of skill, your best bet is to find a US company that works in your skill and get an H1B visa

trebuie sa inveti sa sugi pula la americani
mergi la ambasada si te invata ei

>>81818181
Yeah get the visa that 10 million indians are competing for every year and with like a 10% lottery rate and a 7 year waitlist.

>>81818196
H1B is not a lottery, that's why it's abused so much. It's company sponsored and 95% of the picks are just approved, very few are denied.

>>81818181
HMM how hard would it be to get a construction type job over there?

>>81818226
Insanely easy if you have any skills, very easy if you're willing to start at the bottom if you have no skills but will work hard.

but also you're not going to get a visa for construction I don't think

>>81818219
>H1B is not a lottery
This is false.
The initial selection process for cap-subject H-1Bs (65,000 regular cap + 20,000 U.S. master's cap) is absolutely a lottery when the number of applications exceeds the cap, which it almost always does.
For example, in FY2025, 758,994 registrations were submitted for just 85,000 slots. Trust me, I looked into it for myself and it's just not realistic.

>>81818219
>American has no understanding of their own immigration system
Yes, when the company sponsors you it has a high acceptance rate, but in order to be sponsored by a company you have to go through a lottery with less than 10% rate of being picked.

>>81818253
>>American has no understanding of their own immigration system
why would you you're already a citizen you don't have to worry about it lmao

>>81818238
>but also you're not going to get a visa for construction I don't think
oh yeah that's what i was fearing. in my mind i thought i could just: apply for visa -> go over there -> look for construction job

>>81818260
Because they get mad about H1Bs ruining their country and talking about how anyone who applies for one gets one. That just isn't the case.

>>81818273
H1Bs are ruining the country though, regardless of how the system works. You're just reading the rules and not realizing the millions of exceptions that rich tech companies bribe their way into getting.

but America is great because it was built by Europeans and every non European / non White person we import makes the country worse slowly over time, and then faster and faster.

>>81817885
>well, cali is one of the most expensive states you could live in. with $700 in one month here you'd be considered super well off.
NTA but value is relative. If you can't afford rent and groceries you can't afford rent and groceries, and you are exactly as poor as anyone else who can't afford rent. It doesn't matter if your money would be worth more somewhere else.

>>81817885
>well, cali is one of the most expensive states you could live in. with $700 in one month here you'd be considered super well off.
NTA but value is relative. If you can't afford rent and groceries you are exactly as poor as anyone else in the world who can't afford rent and groceries. It doesn't matter if your money would be worth more somewhere else.

>>81818293
>not realizing the millions of exceptions that rich tech companies bribe their way into getting.
Ok, so the immigrants who were qualified enough to get these tech jobs over locals? You do know that H1Bs have to work at the company for a fixed duration right? That they often make much less than locals and if they get fired their visa ends and they have no hope of getting another job. So you're getting someone equally as qualified, for less pay, and basically a servant for your company.

>>81818314
>Ok, so the immigrants who were qualified enough to get these tech jobs over locals?
>That they often make much less than locals and if they get fired their visa ends and they have no hope of getting another job
As you yourself blatantly admit, they are NOT as qualified, they are simply willing to work for far less than an actual American and that they're are locked to the company so they don't have any other choices.

So the bossman can hire an H1B slave for far less who's stuck at the company for years at a FRACTION of the pay. Or he can hire a way more qualified worker, and pay triple, and that worker can leave at any time.

wow why would Americans want to end this sham of a system...

>>81818346
Even if they were more qualified they have less opportunities because of their passport so taking a fraction of the pay is still better than the life they could have in their home country. What don't you understand about that?

>>81816974 (OP)
Are you a boy or a girl?
If you're a girl just marry a man, any american neet will do since you have the money.

>>81818366
Trust me they are never more qualified. Most of them can't even speak english worth a shit, you can't understand them, they stink to high hell and write garbage code and they're insanely nepotistic to their shitty fellow indians.

anyways of course I understand why THEY want to come here. Why do YOU not understand why AMERICANS don't want these people to come to our country?

>>81818181
very nice get my friend

>>81818457
dang I didn't even notice