Is it any wonder gender relations are shot to shit when the average normie women unironically thinks like this?

You are vile, foids.

most women are insanely boring and have no hobbies beyond watching netflix goyslop and "traveling" (going to the same half a dozen tourist traps)

>>81830040 (OP)
women when a man wants to love and care for them for the rest of their life: "WAHHHHH HE DOESN'T WANNA ORBIT MY BORING ASS"

>>81830040 (OP)
Women aren't really able to understand this phenomenon because they find most men to be ugly. If they found most men to be attractive, they'd end up behaving similarly.

>>81830040 (OP)
The men leave because they have broken hearts and being in her presence makes it ache.
She doesn't want them to leave because she wants to keep them around as beta orbiters.

>>81830040 (OP)
I had a friendship with a foid from here where we would constantly sexually harass and flirt with each other but idk we weren't really in love.
It's like we kept trying to make the other fall for the other. Very fun relationship dynamic maybe women should just platonically make out with their friends

>>81830119
If you were really a man, you would have made your intentions clear from the beginning and not act like an effeminate coward.

>>81830113
my interests are vidya (which is 99% of my hobby time ngl), drawing and reading russian novels, but i don't even try to make male friends because i know men can't be friends with women lol. everyone should accept that men and women can't be friends because men would always catch feelings, and just not try to befriend the other gender anymore. simple. everyone will be happier because we all know men have this deficiency in humanity.

>>81830040 (OP)
Friend is just a boyfriend foids are not attracted to, exact same personality

Women when men wait to get to know her before flirting:
>"OMG so you were attracted to me this whole time!? You never really wanted to just be my platonic asexual friend!? That's so horrible, I hate you!"
Those same women when men are upfront and flirt early on:
>"OMG you're flirting with me when we barely know each other!? You can't even get to know me first!? That's so horrible, I hate you!"
WHAT THE FUCK DO YOU WANT???

>>81831371
In my mind as a man, the only reason I would not want to progress a friendship I have with a single woman whom I am friends with is because I'm not physically attracted to her. I can only assume the reason is the same for women. After all, if you get along with a guy well enough to be good friends, why else wouldn't you want something more? That's why I wouldn't want to stick around with a girl who rejected my advances, because it would be humiliating knowing that you're so ugly to her that it completely detracts from whatever chemistry you had that made you guys friends in the first place and prevents the friendship from becoming a romance, all while she happily dates other men whom she does actually find attractive, sometimes even keepojg you on the back burner as a safe option for after she's had her fun.

>>81831352
then they attack you as a playboy man whore

>>81830040 (OP)
They want a free ride both ways; To use you as a free therapy. Then they date or screw someone else. Immature women cannot see dual roles. They might subconsciously think you are disrupting her social status. It comes down to just using men and ignoring their feelings.

>>81831429
They want Chad doing those things, not non-chads

>>81830040 (OP)
>>81831352
>>81831371
holy shit foids are so stupid and evil. why can't they just act like they're supposed to and be our sex slaves

Daily reminder to play the game, anons. Play the game until to you eventually kill yourself.

women can actually be funny and interesting but funny women are usually extremely mentally ill and will destroy you and themselves

>>81830040 (OP)
Why would a friend hitting on you offend you?

>>81831457
Better that than trying to befriend your romantic interest. Your partner isn't your friend, and you shouldn't be her friend neither.

I think it's kind of hilarious how much this place reveres the opinion of Redditors or Twitter users.
Like, robots are so far on the fringes of society that, to them, women who spend all day posting angry opinions on social media are normal and indicative of how normal society is.

Still though, I think this is a pretty tame opinion. It can be frustrating and awkward when a friendship falls apart due to someone developing feelings. Like, having a friend admit attraction to you can sometimes lead to something good happening, and its good that men are being bold and taking action, even if it doesn't work out. But I think if you polled most women about it, they would just rather avoid the situation altogether. Which is kind of shit, I know.

A few weeks back, I got into a massive argument on here. I said that the majority of blackpilling is just people sharing screenshots from Reddit and Twitter, essentially beating themselves and all the men around them into being quiet, docile, hyper-respectful, and channeling all their residual anger into violent and unrealistic fantasies. Like I said, part of me is happy that men are becoming more respectful and quiet by blackpilling, especially considering the alternative, but that makes me feel guilty.

>>81831657
>your partner isn't your friend
jesus christ why would you want to be partners with someone you're not friends with? People call their SO their best friend all the time. You're either someone who's never been in a relationship or someone in a very shit one.

>>81830178
It's beyond that. Most men don't behave this way when ugly girls flirt with them.
Women see life as something like a movie, and they see other human beings as characters fulfilling particular roles. They categorize men. Men with low trust faces are "creepy guys" and antagonists. Men with high trust faces are like supporting characters who are there to be friendly and make her feel happy. Chads are for sex and orgasms. Most men are like minor side characters or background characters. Anyways, when non-chads flirt, women fly into a rage because they see it as a man stepping out of line and not playing the role he's supposed to play. Only chad is for sex, not the other male characters.

>>81831719
They're a specific thing, it's a specific type of relationship. It's like how you can be close with your mom and dad, but they aren't your "friends", they're something else.

We've gone over this. Women and men can't be just friends, it doesn't work that way. If you think otherwise you're coping.

t. I have fucked all my "female friends"

>>81831848
you're just splitting hairs. If they act like your friend (all SO's should) then they're your friend as well as your partner and it makes sense that you'd go from being friends to then become partners.

>>81831973
>women sleep with me
CHADS GET OUT CHADS GET OUT CHADS GET OUT CHADS GET OUT CHADS GET OUT CHADS GET OUT CHADS GET OUT CHADS GET OUT CHADS GET OUT CHADS GET OUT CHADS GET OUT CHADS GET OUT CHADS GET OUT CHADS GET OUT CHADS GET OUT

>>81831997
>If they act like your friend
Your friends gaze into your eyes and tell you how much they love you and have sex with you??

>>81832037
you don't hang out and have fun with your SO and tell them funny stories and shoot the shit?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HcEEsGw8iTg&list=RDHcEEsGw8iTg&start_radio=1

>>81831698
>quiet, docile, hyper-respectful
Maybe because that's hyper-retarded? Not hitting on women out of lack of chance has little to do with that.
No one does it because of respect towards women but out of respect for his own time.
Ignoring someone has nothing to do with respect.
Furthermore is giving up on that person.
The other shit about quiet and docile is just stupid as if getting rejected had any purpose or rebelliousness to it

>>81832053
I can do that with mom and dad too, but I still wouldn't call them "friends". They're something more than that.

>>81832243
they're friends AND something else. They're not JUST the something else, so it makes perfect sense to go from friends to the added something else.

>>81832256
It's just not the same thing. The emotions you feel for your lover are completely different emotions from he ones you feel for your friends, otherwise you just have a FWB.

>>81832285
I disagree. I can feel the same things I feel with friends with my SO. I also want to fuck her brains out sometimes. Not that complicated.

women romanticize the "friends to lovers" dynamic but immediately complain when their (non-chad) guy friend confesses feelings

>>81832101

Exactly. 100 percent agreed.
But thats my point.
Not being bothered kind of works out well for me, but is it healthy in the long term? Who knows

>>81831657
nigger every successful couple I know describes their relationship as being best friends who fuck. stupid nigger autist

>>81832292
Then she's just a FWB. Real romantic love is more rare than people think.

>>81832472
I want to fucking marry her bro what the fuck are you talking about. Take the L

>>81832479
You want to marry someone just because she's your friend and good at making you cum?

>>81832538
...yes? I love her because of those things. Love isn't some kinda feeling imo that's a crush. Love is wanting to be with someone no matter what.

>>81832538
NTA but what more can you realistically ask for

>>81830040 (OP)
I imagine People in the future when we're dead will look back on this and see just how terrible women of this era behaved. Im honestly not sure how public perception isnt picking up on how psychopathic modern women are, I guess its some eye of the hurricane situation.
These women are my too openly sadistic to not be dawned by future people.

>>81832542
>>81832611
If you've actually been in love then you would understand. You aren't in love, you just have FWBs. More people should acknowledge the difference between "romantic partner" and "friend who you have sex with".
Don't marry a friend, idiots.

>>81832646
you've never been in love. You've had a crush before. A fleeting moment of ecstasy you get when your body tells you to be with someone. That doesn't stay no matter how strong it feels in the moment. You can't build a relationship off it. It's not true love. Love is when you stay with each other despite your feelings in the moment. You stay together through fights or disagreements and support and do things together no matter what. Grow up.

>>81832646
So you're saying you've had both and know the difference?

>>81832646
marriage existed for millennia before your very modern concept of love

most guys, if magically turned into a girl, would let their struggling friends use their pussy just because it's the nice thing to do. Meanwhile women enjoy making betas suffer.

>>81830040 (OP)
this is not unique to men asking out women though. this is just tainting a relationship and having the self-awareness to recognize that it's not worth recovering from that. most men don't have enough options to go willy-nilly abandoning friendships on the realization they won't get pussy. most just bow out to keep from having to deal with their feelings and making you comfortable at the same time. those who do wouldn't have cared enough to be your friend in the first place.
>girlfriend role
god forbid someone find you interesting and want to date you lmao when did these hoes get so socially and emotionally bankrupt

Not even the craziest thing I've read when browsing female communities. They're so fucking neurotic

>>81832729
I legitimately cannot conceive of what situations and experiences you need to go through to consider someone wanting to DATE you an insult. Like what the fuck?

>>81832011
I'm not a chad at all

>>81831562
>fruits of secularism
If millenia-old superstitions are the only way to prevent whoredom, then there really is no hope.

>>81832806
every foid believes in horoscopes and star signs and all that shit, it's not like they're not superstitious themselves. normies are naive creatures and need higher authorities to control them

>>81830040 (OP)
these same foids constantly complain about their situationships and complain about men only wanting them for their bodies, god forbid a man actually wants to date them. I have zero sympathy

>>81830040 (OP)
I'm just glad roasties like these will never be happy

this is her kek

>>81832926
Sir, I asked for a Brittany Venti gf, wtf is this?

>>81832796
Then why do women have casual sex with you???

>>81832943
you can be her first*, anon.

>>81832662
stop coping

>>81832964
I think you need to stop. You obviously lost the debate. You can't see your SO as a friend. You probably shouldn't spend your life with them.

>>81832943
With some work, you can remold her into Venti. Put in the work, anon.

>>81832952
I had a chad lite face, hair and take care of my hygiene and overall presentation. I've also learned how to talk to them, manage my expectations and learn how to have fun with them without expecting too much from them, which is important because they are much more transactional in their nature.

On the other hand, I'm not wealthy, am short, am introverted and am a serious person until I really get to know someone, so this hasn't been handed to me on a silver platter

Casual sex is overrated regardless and it's not worth the risk of emotional damage and possible STDs

>>81830040 (OP)
And then she fucks chad immediately into a 1 year friendship when he makes a move.
That's how it works.
You gotta understand people are biologically hardwired to devalue male life. For 300,000 years we have been the 'disposable soldiers' who compete for women; and they chose while we protected them.

It serves no evolutionary purpose to give a shit about low value competitors, especially when caring about them leads to more of them. So that's why they nitpick so goddamn hard about every little aspect of your being except what makes them hate you. That's why chad can walk into a room, do some fucked up shit; and no-one cares. In fact it turns women on even more when he does. He is by inheritance, a high value competitor; so all is permissible.
For incels this gives the same physiological response to being cornered by a predator about to kill you, but it never fucking ends. Not that they'd care lol, we are low value competitors.

>>81831504
Brootal truth bro

>>81833064
>I had a chad lite face
CHADS GET OUT CHADS GET OUT CHADS GET OUT CHADS GET OUT CHADS GET OUT CHADS GET OUT CHADS GET OUT CHADS GET OUT CHADS GET OUT CHADS GET OUT CHADS GET OUT CHADS GET OUT CHADS GET OUT CHADS GET OUT CHADS GET OUT CHADS GET OUT CHADS GET OUT CHADS GET OUT CHADS GET OUT CHADS GET OUT CHADS GET OUT CHADS GET OUT CHADS GET OUT CHADS GET OUT CHADS GET OUT CHADS GET OUT CHADS GET OUT CHADS GET OUT CHADS GET OUT CHADS GET OUT

>>81833064
>I had a chad lite face
Bait used to be believable