Thread 81847905 - /r9k/ [Archived: 337 hours ago]

Anonymous
7/16/2025, 10:21:49 AM No.81847905
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Nationalism seems so stupid to me.
>this place is better because people who vaguely share my genotype did something
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Anonymous
7/16/2025, 10:23:45 AM No.81847912
>>81847905 (OP)
dishonest and inaccurate "summary" of nationalism
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Anonymous
7/16/2025, 10:26:29 AM No.81847925
>>81847912
More like you don't like having it pointed out
Anonymous
7/16/2025, 10:40:26 AM No.81847990
>>81847905 (OP)
>patriotism is the last refuge of the scoundrel
Anonymous
7/16/2025, 11:02:44 AM No.81848080
>>81847905 (OP)
99% of POC are extremely patriotic and nationalistic which is the the true reason as to why all of their countries are shitholes
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Anonymous
7/16/2025, 11:50:33 AM No.81848328
>>81847905 (OP)
Are u retarded?
Yes it is better with lots of peolle who tjink and act and look similar then yourself.
More trust, more ingroup solidarity and so on.
Countless studys to read and to understand why balkanisation is ruin.
Anonymous
7/16/2025, 12:39:17 PM No.81848664
>>81848080
Africans will spend 50 years locked in bloody combat with their neighbors who are visually indistinct from themselves because they use two clicks instead of one when they "talk". Tribalism is literally the lowest form of humanity still around, and it is practiced only by the very stupid.
Anonymous
7/16/2025, 12:43:50 PM No.81848692
HUMANS ARE LIKE AN ANT COLONY...
Anonymous
7/16/2025, 12:49:03 PM No.81848712
OP is either a maladaptive spiteful mutant, subversive jew rat or other foreigner who benefits from being in someone else's country
>I'm going to pretend I don't understand evolutionary psychology, evolutionary biology and genetic interests, lol lmao
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Anonymous
7/16/2025, 12:51:09 PM No.81848732
Self-preservation seems so stupid to me.
>I am better than everyone because I did something, or maybe I didn't do much at all but I'm still better anyway

This is how stupid you sound.
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Anonymous
7/16/2025, 12:54:19 PM No.81848756
ethnocentrism
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>>81847905 (OP)
Ethnocentrism is the evolutionary strategy that's the most effective at spreading itself from a game theory perspective.

https://www.jasss.org/16/3/7.html
Anonymous
7/16/2025, 1:16:39 PM No.81848897
>>81848712
Nah. Robots are not tribalistic
Anonymous
7/16/2025, 1:16:53 PM No.81848898
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>>81847905 (OP)
In an industrial Society people search for a new purpose as the need for survival has mostly been eradicated (even homeless people struggle with obesity).

The most natural choice is the appeal to their ancestry, it's a common behaviour even prevelant in the animal kingdom and is a constance. I admit, the concept of ethnicity and borders are indeed wolly, but they have a basis in reality. Again, take a look at the animal kingdom. Even when minor border realities are often arbitrary and impossible to clearly define, living beings can still feel a connection to it on an objective basis.
Anonymous
7/16/2025, 1:21:01 PM No.81848924
>>81847905 (OP)
Obsession. As nearly as possible, no nationalist ever thinks, talks, or writes about anything except the superiority of his own power unit. It is difficult if not impossible for any nationalist to conceal his allegiance. The smallest slur upon his own unit, or any implied praise of a rival organization, fills him with uneasiness which he can relieve only by making some sharp retort. If the chosen unit is an actual country, such as Ireland or India, he will generally claim superiority for it not only in military power and political virtue, but in art, literature, sport, structure of the language, the physical beauty of the inhabitants, and perhaps even in climate, scenery and cooking. He will show great sensitiveness about such things as the correct display of flags, relative size of headlines and the order in which different countries are named
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Anonymous
7/16/2025, 1:22:08 PM No.81848933
>>81848924
Instability. The intensity with which they are held does not prevent nationalist loyalties from being transferable. To begin with, as I have pointed out already, they can be and often are fastened up on some foreign country. One quite commonly finds that great national leaders, or the founders of nationalist movements, do not even belong to the country they have glorified. Sometimes they are outright foreigners, or more often they come from peripheral areas where nationality is doubtful. Examples are Stalin, Hitler, Napoleon, de Valera, Disraeli, Poincare, Beaverbrook. The Pan-German movement was in part the creation of an Englishman, Houston Chamberlain. For the past fifty or a hundred years, transferred nationalism has been a common phenomenon among literary intellectuals. With Lafcadio Hearne the transference was to Japan, with Carlyle and many others of his time to Germany, and in our own age it is usually to Russia. But the peculiarly interesting fact is that re-transference is also possible. A country or other unit which has been worshipped for years may suddenly become detestable, and some other object of affection may take its place with almost no interval. In the first version of H. G. Wells's Outline of History, and others of his writings about that time, one finds the United States praised almost as extravagantly as Russia is praised by Communists today: yet within a few years this uncritical admiration had turned into hostility. The bigoted Communist who changes in a space of weeks, or even days, into an equally bigoted Trotskyist is a common spectacle. In continental Europe Fascist movements were largely recruited from among Communists, and the opposite process may well happen within the next few years. What remains constant in the nationalist is his state of mind: the object of his feelings is changeable, and may be imaginary.
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Anonymous
7/16/2025, 1:23:45 PM No.81848946
>>81848933

Indifference to Reality. All nationalists have the power of not seeing resemblances between similar sets of facts. A British Tory will defend self-determination in Europe and oppose it in India with no feeling of inconsistency. Actions are held to be good or bad, not on their own merits, but according to who does them, and there is almost no kind of outrage - torture, the use of hostages, forced labour, mass deportations, imprisonment without trial, forgery, assassination, the bombing of civilians - which does not change its moral colour when it is committed by 'our' side. The Liberal News Chronicle published, as an example of shocking barbarity, photographs of Russians hanged by the Germans, and then a year or two later published with warm approval almost exactly similar photographs of Germans hanged by the Russians(5). It is the same with historical events. History is thought of largely in nationalist terms, and such things as the Inquisition, the tortures of the Star Chamber, the exploits of the English buccaneers (Sir Francis Drake, for instance, who was given to sinking Spanish prisoners alive), the Reign of Terror, the heroes of the Mutiny blowing hundreds of Indians from the guns, or Cromwell's soldiers slashing Irishwomen's faces with razors, become morally neutral or even meritorious when it is felt that they were done in the 'right' cause. If one looks back over the past quarter of a century, one finds that there was hardly a single year when atrocity stories were not being reported from some part of the world; and yet in not one single case were these atrocities - in Spain, Russia, China, Hungary, Mexico, Amritsar, Smyrna - believed in and disapproved of by the English intelligentsia as a whole. Whether such deeds were reprehensible, or even whether they happened, was always decided according to political predilection.
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Anonymous
7/16/2025, 1:24:46 PM No.81848952
>>81848946

>Every nationalist is haunted by the belief that the past can be altered. He spends part of his time in a fantasy world in which things happen as they should - in which, for example, the Spanish Armada was a success or the Russian Revolution was crushed in 1918 - and he will transfer fragments of this world to the history books whenever possible. Much of the propagandist writing of our time amounts to plain forgery. Material facts are suppressed, dates altered, quotations removed from their context and doctored so as to change their meaning. Events which it is felt ought not to have happened are left unmentioned and ultimately denied

>Some nationalists are not far from schizophrenia, living quite happily amid dreams of power and conquest which have no connection with the physical world.
Anonymous
7/16/2025, 1:28:34 PM No.81848976
>>81848732
>>81848712
You are seething. Something you or your close relatives/friends (your *tribe*) did is something you can take pride in, because there's an emotional connection in you to those people.

A random person who shares your language and skin color is not connected to you in any way, and being proud of the fact that you are white/black/yellow/brown like him/her only shows that you have nothing else to be proud of.
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Anonymous
7/16/2025, 2:13:47 PM No.81849239
>>81848976
>and being proud of the fact that you are white/black/yellow/brown like him/her only shows that you have nothing else to be proud of.

Taking pride in Identity and pride of your own individuality are two seperate state of affairs barely tangible to each other, they are not excluding to each other. In both cases they are referred to as pride, but the psychological mechanism behind each of those 2 processes are completelly different.

>What uplifts me the most and gives me courage is that I am an honest German.

You can gues from whon this quote stems from. Small tip, one of the most accomplished artists in History.
Anonymous
7/16/2025, 2:18:12 PM No.81849267
>>81848976
>A random person who shares your language and skin color is not connected to you in any way
why do i feel connected then? more than a nigger at least
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Anonymous
7/16/2025, 2:24:04 PM No.81849305
>>81849267
because you're retarded which is OP anons point. glad to help.
Anonymous
7/16/2025, 2:30:56 PM No.81849357
>>81847905 (OP)
everyone is tribal except you, it won't end well
Anonymous
7/16/2025, 2:46:30 PM No.81849497
>>81847905 (OP)
Yeah, it's so stupid when everyone works together on the same side as a team in order to improve the future for their children and grandchildren, create a prosperous and safe and beautiful society, and protect that because it's literally the most valuable thing in the world for humans to have a stable, safe, and nice environment to live in.

Some nations are objectively better than others for various reasons, this is not debatable (why does everyone in the world want to live in Norway?), but this is really besides the point. I promote nationalism for every race and wish them the best no matter who they are, because it's simply the best and most functional way to run a society, and all other methods are extremely dysfunctional.
Anonymous
7/16/2025, 2:48:51 PM No.81849525
Kill yourself OP, go back to where you came from
Anonymous
7/16/2025, 2:49:05 PM No.81849528
How can nationalism be real if blacks have the biggest dicks?
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Anonymous
7/16/2025, 2:53:50 PM No.81849575
Yes.
Collectivism is a loser ideology for those whose individual character is so deplorable that they would rather sell their freedom to the group in order to feel valued.
It's unscientific. And all the retards crying
>muh biology
itt, don't have a fucking clue what they are ralking about. They don't know what a tribe is or how it's formed.
They are a blight on human history.
Anonymous
7/16/2025, 2:55:57 PM No.81849593
>>81847905 (OP)
Nationalists simply want to piggyback on the achievements of people they live (relatively) near.
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Anonymous
7/16/2025, 3:00:59 PM No.81849647
The average person would literally refuse to move to Africa/India/other Brownistan countries even if you offered them hundreds of thousands of dollars. Hell, even most brown people would refuse it, if they already have access to white societies. How can you claim some societies are not objectively better when this is the case?

>>81849528
If BBCs are that important to you, wouldn't you want to preserve their genetic purity and live among them in Africa? This makes you a nationalist.

>>81849593
>piggyback on the achievements of people they live (relatively) near.
Unlike globalists and immigrants who want to piggyback on the achievements of white people they live (relatively) near? Why is ok for all brown people to want to live near white people, but not for white people? That doesn't make sense.

Nationalists simply want to avoid living around people like you.
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Anonymous
7/16/2025, 3:01:09 PM No.81849650
>>81847905 (OP)
I agree, that is why you should let me live in your house. Nationalism is just an extension of family. If family does not matter you should open your house to everyone.
Anonymous
7/16/2025, 3:03:32 PM No.81849670
>>81849647
>Unlike globalists and immigrants who want to piggyback on the achievements of white people they live (relatively) near?
People move countries all the time, white or otherwise.
>That doesn't make sense.
Because you're inventing fictitious scenarios. Of course it doesn't make sense.

You have your head stuck so far up your arse.
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Anonymous
7/16/2025, 3:05:51 PM No.81849689
>>81849670
>People move countries all the time, white or otherwise.
Europeans more to African countries all the time? Are you sure about this? It was my understanding that the floods of refugees in all of recent history have been from the third world to the first world, as in, from brown countries to white countries. Of course there may be one or two exceptions where a white person moved to a brown country but it's still on a ratio of something like 100000000000000:1 so it's not really equivalent?
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Anonymous
7/16/2025, 3:08:26 PM No.81849714
>>81849647
No I want them in white women because they get kids with BBC therefore improving human race
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Anonymous
7/16/2025, 3:12:28 PM No.81849751
>>81849689
Europeans don't move to the Americas? They don't move to Asia? They don't move to the middle east? Show me some proof please.
>Of course there may be one or two exceptions where a white person moved to a brown country but it's still on a ratio of something like 100000000000000:1 so it's not really equivalent?
I see you insist on just making stuff up and have no clue what you're talking about. Come back when you can form a coherent idea longer than two sentences.
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Anonymous
7/16/2025, 3:14:11 PM No.81849763
>>81849714
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Regression_toward_the_mean
Over time the combined genetics will return to the mean values of the combined DNA, effectively ruining your precious BBCs, so this negates your first argument unfortunately, so it turns out it was not actually as important to you as you thought it was. In the end it boils down to the same thing we already covered, which is that you want to live nearby white people for some unknown reason, even though they are supposedly not better or superior.

>>81849751
>Europeans don't move to the Americas? They don't move to Asia? They don't move to the middle east?
...no, not really, not in any significant numbers, especially in comparison to the native population since Europeans are only <10% of the world-wide population in the first place.
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Anonymous
7/16/2025, 3:17:01 PM No.81849787
>>81849763
>I'm miss-using scientific terms in order to make people think my pseudoscience has any validity
Retard alert!
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Anonymous
7/16/2025, 3:18:02 PM No.81849794
>>81849787
>miss-using scientific terms
How so? Substantiate your criticism.
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Anonymous
7/16/2025, 3:18:20 PM No.81849798
>>81849763
>Black average: 9 inches
>white average 4 inches
>Mixed average 7 inches
Human race improved
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Anonymous
7/16/2025, 3:18:38 PM No.81849801
>>81849763
People are free to make their own decisions. Plus, why does moving to other white countries not count? What even is significant? I thought there is a significant number of white people in those places I mentioned. You either allow migration or you don't. Again, nobody is stopping you from living near your people.
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Anonymous
7/16/2025, 3:20:15 PM No.81849812
>>81849798
But 7 is less than 9, so it was worsened? Making something worse is improving it...?? That would explain a lot if this is how African brains function
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Anonymous
7/16/2025, 3:23:03 PM No.81849833
>>81849801
>Plus, why does moving to other white countries not count?
Because they are from a similar and compatible culture.
>You either allow migration or you don't.
No, why would this be the case? You can allow or disallow anything you want, and you can pick and choose. You can allow inter-European immigration, because of the very high similarity in culture and genetics, no harm will follow because they are very compatible with each other and thus functional. The same goes for inter-African immigration (I assume, they all seem pretty similar to me).
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Anonymous
7/16/2025, 3:23:30 PM No.81849835
>>81849801
>nobody is stopping you from living near your people
The jews are with open borders, section ape, various forms of hard and soft social engineering via government policies, etc.
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Anonymous
7/16/2025, 3:26:03 PM No.81849854
>>81849794
80% of genetic variation is found within members of 1 race.
The means in almost every mental aspect in all races are marginally different.
Galton's theory on reflects on phenotype.
The relationship between phenotype and psychological traits has long been a psaudoscientific concept that has been debunked several times in modern history.

In other words, you are a retard.
Anonymous
7/16/2025, 3:27:49 PM No.81849872
>>81849833
>Because they are from a similar and compatible culture.
Yeah but people can be incompatible with their own culture for example, and cultures similar enough tend to just merge into one entity throughout history, so that just sounds like an attempt at moving the goalpost when the topic at hand is nationalism and migration.
>No, why would this be the case?
Because there are people who want to move away from Europe. Or do you just want to live in a totalitarian shithole?
Anonymous
7/16/2025, 3:28:04 PM No.81849873
>>81849812
Increasing global average size can only be a good thing. Black men have kids they don't see with white girls and then they have kids with other Black women. white men have less kids cuz white women have Mixed kids, average goes up
Simple math
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Anonymous
7/16/2025, 3:29:01 PM No.81849879
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>>81849873
>jeet shilling for rupees again
Anonymous
7/16/2025, 3:29:20 PM No.81849882
>>81849835
A lot of words to say you're incompetent. You can always move around. Other people also want to move around. Again, no one is actually stopping you. Be responsible for a change.
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Anonymous
7/16/2025, 3:30:03 PM No.81849888
>>81849873
So in short, you want to preserve African genetics, and eradicate white genetics. That is a fair argument, but this means you are an ultra-nationalist, you want to murder me and my race forever, and you have no shame or qualms about it. And you expect Europeans to think this is nice and good behavior and allow you to do it, and not genocide you back?

Every argument against nationalism basically boils down to a declaration of total war against white people. Curious!
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Anonymous
7/16/2025, 3:30:54 PM No.81849893
>>81849882
If someone else has usurped control over the government then it doesn't matter where you move, but you know this and are just a dishonest turd who should kill yourself.
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Anonymous
7/16/2025, 3:31:40 PM No.81849900
>>81849893
>you're dishonest
>IT'S DA JOOOOOOZ
lole
Anonymous
7/16/2025, 3:31:56 PM No.81849902
>>81849888
Should thought about that before being a peckerdick lol
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Anonymous
7/16/2025, 3:32:33 PM No.81849907
>>81849893
You're the dishonest one here. You are free to form communes as you wish. How does achieving your supposed aim not matter? What are you even talking about?
Anonymous
7/16/2025, 3:33:22 PM No.81849916
>>81849902
But I did, and that's why I am also a nationalist, and we are on opposite sides of the war, and the discussion is over because we're on the same ideological side and in complete agreement, my brother. Hail Victory.
Anonymous
7/16/2025, 3:33:39 PM No.81849921
>>81849893
Oh and also, whose fault is it that their government gets usurped just like that? Who voted them in? It's your people lol.
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Anonymous
7/16/2025, 3:35:41 PM No.81849934
>>81849921
>actually race isn't real
>ok maybe it's real but it doesn't matter
>ok maybe it matters and we all want to kill you
>ok maybe we all want to kill you but you deserve it
>ok maybe you don't deserve it but you voted for it
>ok maybe you didn't vote for it but we're going to do it anyway
Based PoC-brains
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Anonymous
7/16/2025, 3:37:29 PM No.81849951
ITT: brown people admit they are nationalists and want to kill white people, but white people totally shouldn't be nationalists because... they just shouldn't okay!!!
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Anonymous
7/16/2025, 3:38:28 PM No.81849963
>>81849934
None of that has been said.
It's just that your argumrnts lack logic and factual support, therefore it's incredibly easy to poke holes in them from multiple perspectives.
You then take this as a sign of being allowed to suddenly change the meaning of someone else's words and make it fit your narrative.
Yes, you are the dishonest retarded projecting.
Anonymous
7/16/2025, 3:39:41 PM No.81849984
>>81849951
Itt: anon got baited so hard by some retard and seethed so hard he was unable to recognize it as bait and responded to every post with a wall of text.
Anonymous
7/16/2025, 3:50:45 PM No.81850097
>>81847905 (OP)
>this place is better because people who vaguely share my genotype did something
This vague similarity is enough to create differences between european stock and for example pajeet stock. I'd rather live in homogeneous european nation than share it with some pajeets.
Anonymous
7/16/2025, 4:07:10 PM No.81850216
nationalists need meaning and its just as made up as religion
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Anonymous
7/16/2025, 4:09:27 PM No.81850236
>>81850216
I need to live in a town WHERE PEOPLE DON'T SHIT ON THE STREET AND RAPE PEOPLE ALL THE TIME
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Anonymous
7/16/2025, 4:46:21 PM No.81850500
>>81850236
Same but I don't make up scenarios in my head and cry about them
Anonymous
7/16/2025, 5:02:11 PM No.81850649
>>81849951
Whites being nationalists is fucking retarded when they're all attracted to hispanics and nip women.