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>>81851850 (OP)
I would be a positive male role model. I am pretty cool and reasonable, I think. Although, I think a lot of this could be solved if more men were teachers.

>>81851876
>Although, I think a lot of this could be solved if more men were teachers.
Bit sexist innit

>>81851891
Not him but yes, it is sexist to only employ female teachers because they give many more chances to women to succeed. Good catch

this is just gonna breed a population of virtue signalers that get mad when things don't go their way?

>>81851850 (OP)
What are they gonna teach? It's ok to be a betabux? Like what

>>81851850 (OP)
Well, shit. As pop culture continues to turn against us, our young incel brothers are going to get the Blue Pill brainwashing in school.
Never mind that foids become Chad-only the second they use a smartphone. I highly doubt they'd ever be taught to give their looks-match a chance.
The never-ending spread of inceldom is a disaster for society and civilisation, yet the normies still blame the alienated and disenfranchised victims.

>>81851983
the will introduce Big R

>>81851850 (OP) Good parenting will build a strong mind in the youth. This will prevent indoctrination automatically and families will be more united.

>>81851983
They're just gonna finger wag and say "Women are beautiful and kind and innocent and you should always respect them and never criticize them, that's naughty naughty".

>>81851850 (OP)
got fucking roving rape gang but draws the line at spergs that dont get pussy lol

>>81852178
Well women voted for them, they didn't vote for incels though

>>81851850 (OP)
Why don't they just give the boys examples of good men that women actually find attractive? I think that'd help.

>>81852243
Same reason they're committing the modern sin of whitewashing the person this is based on.

>>81852243
I don't think showing murderers and rapists to students would be a good thing

>>81851850 (OP)
They're going to show more men incelhood and it's going to backfire snd make more incels. This is good because we will have an influx of more users

>>81851850 (OP)
>positive role models
They'll never find any lol. The leftist concept of a male role model is a man who:

>has no self respect
>constantly puts aside his own wants and needs for the sake of people who have nothing but contempt for him
>accepts all responsibilities of masculinity while receiving none of its privileges
>revolves every word and action around the sensibilities of other people, especially women
>will sell out his own ethnicity and fight for those colonizing his country.
>will be perfectly happy and content never getting anything he wants and will only ever blame himself for any problem he has
>will do all of the above and still be perfectly happy and content when every woman he meets rejects him

The last one is of course the nail in the coffin. They really want everything and think that they can ask nothing in return. There's no man you can find that meets the above criteria who will be respected by grown men, let alone young boys. It will be hilarious to see what pathetic shmup they roll out as a great male role model though.

>>81851850 (OP)
Adolescence was a fictional TV show
why don't they acknowledge the problems that actually exist in their society?
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cvg8zy78787o
Why are 19,000 Afghans moving to Britain?

>>81852463
genuine retard

>>81852481
he got a license for that telly?

>>81852486
>They'll never call you wrong

>>81852486
I mean, he's not wrong. It's why the left doesn't actually have any decent role models for men. At least ones that actually get laid.

>women: if you do everything we tell you, you will *definitely* find a gf and have lots of sex
>hapless adolescent male: okay
>fast forward ten years, and literally none of that happened
This is literally why we have an "incel" problem in the first place. They're only making it worse.

>>81852463
It's sad how the concept of self sacrifice was completely bastardized by the modern world. The ideal is that your sacrifice is meant to make the world into a better place, into a world you'd want to live in. But to a lot of modern politics, the ideal is that men sacrifice themselves for women that use their freedom not for noble purposes but to manipulate and hurt others, sacrifice themselves for a less trusting society in which you can get away with crime if you're part of some protected class. What kind of fucking retard would want to sacrifice themselves to make a world like that?

>>81851983
They already push that. Normies will whine about slutshaming, the women because they're sluts. The men becuase they want the women to like them, but secretly they hate the fact all they can get are used goods.

The current world order is ready to die. These "attempts" are nothing but window dressing.

The fact that people like Trump can be so easily elected is proof that the consciousness of the people is waking up and eventually a sufficiently competent and powerful rogue elite will utilize that to do mass regime changes across the globe.

>>81851850 (OP)
The way to solve incels is simple - give them a woman to fuck. Like, an actual prostitute that specializes in being the first would do. That's it. That fixes everything. For that reason it'll never be done and they'll just continue to do stupid shit that caused the problem in the first place.

They don't need "positive role models," they need a pussy to fuck, and the perpetual refusal to simply provide that will only make the problem worse. The incels of the future may even be much much worse because "positive role models" by design would be layering yet another falsehood on top of already existing falsehoods. Their disappointment and justified rage will be apocalyptic.

Again - want to solve incels? Make a government agency of hot young women who specialize at being the first fuck of these boys' lives and mandate sex at 16 or so with them as a part of schooling. But again, we're too retarded of a culture to actually solve issues.

>>81851850 (OP)
The way to solve incels is really simple. Line them up and they can meet the firing squads.

>>81852717
You forget the part where it's based on physical attraction and then if you fail this barrier it's spun as some kind of personal or moral failing on the man.

>>81851983
Likely, but it will all go south when they see in real life asshole bordeline cirminal Chad scum winning always

>>81852971
How do you shoot 63% of all men? Where do you get the soldiers from? The magical land of Equestria?

>>81852971
>incels
That's most young men nowadays, anon.

>>81852463
Leftism has subverted gender: both masculinity and femininity into minstrel shows that mean nothing and pose no threat to their vision of the world. Their idea of masculinity is epic-bacon drinking beer with the bros and listening to Limp Bizkit and being dumbasses, and femininity is being a hyper-consumerist bimbo joke but with a false sense of self awareness. The actual traits of masculinity, like rationality, self dependence, internal locus of control, paternal drive, etc allow men to actualize into people that are stronger and more capable than them. This also allows them to lie and say they permit the existence of masculinity, but only as a castrated drag performance of what a pooner thinks being a man is. Figures like Tate and Hasan Piker are similar, in that their masculinity is purely performative, manifesting as body building for looks only, peacocking wealth, and fucking sex-trafficked prostitutes. And even this faggotry masquerading as being a man is still too much for some of them.

>>81851850 (OP)
>Somehow they'll battle women only fucking tall studs with full scalp of hair, chiseled jaw, x-ray gaze and donkey dicks with "positive" role models
When will society accept that incel culture is just a reactionary to chad halo? The normal evolution of the sexual revolution.
It's 100% born to this cognitive dissonance, mass schizophrenia between behavior and perception. Good luck, England.

>>81852971
I'm not an incel and I think they have more worth than you do. Face the wall.

>>81852519
Why does she have hair on her chest?

>>81852882
Trump won because his opponents were Kamala and Biden.

>>81851850 (OP)
>teach positive role models
Yeah, they'll be pozzed alright.

>>81852931
You would need enough female volunteers to do something like that. The govt can't just spawn non-chadsexuals out of thin air.

>>81852971
This. Either execute them, send them to reeducation labor camps to teach them to be decent fucking human beings while being useful to society and/or draft them, send them to die in some wars

>>81852931
Prostitution is legal in the UK

>>81853004
Twilight and her friends wouldn't do that.

>>81852989
Choosing to be born as someone other than chad is extremely toxic and misogynistic.

>>81853115
>The actual traits of masculinity, like rationality, self dependence, internal locus of control, paternal drive, etc
Aren't these all things that humans in general should aim for?

>>81853134
>The normal evolution of the sexual revolution.
It's not the sexual revolution, it's severe desensitization from overindulgence in online porn and tinder gigachads. Boomers and Xoomers didn't have a chadsexuality problem like the more recent generations do.

>>81851850 (OP)
There are no positive male role models lmao. ESPECIALLY not when it comes to interacting with young women. As a man in general (but young men in particular) you have to be a bit of a predator, a bit of a manipulative sexpest.

Nothing women resent more than a passive man.

>>81852003
The Big Retard?

>>81852876
Woah, careful with those nvkes anon!

They really just thought that "1984" is an instruction manual.

>>81851850 (OP)
More nagging and shaming, that's exactly what men want.

>clearly we haven't hit young men over the head hard enough
>lets just keep doing it or something idk

>"lonely solitary males are the perfect target for further bullying"
they're right, they won't fight back

>>81854159
I don't know to be desu, back in my day social media was in its infancy, the conditioning ran deep and the cognitive dissonance was easier to handwave away. I'm not so sure about now. Isn't one of the current normie talking points about how men are more "radicalised" (read: awake, woke even) than ever?

>>81852717
it must be easier to forbid sex with political conservatives (red flags are often right-coded) than to elevate leftists as a desirable archetype
>"statistically theres a 1/3 chance he'll SA you"
vs
>"its sooo hot when a guy supports borderless immigration"
one is dumb, but the other is unbelievable

>>81853115
its crazy how short form video is so rigid with how the genders are shown. Even back before the internet had room for tomboys or emo guys. Now its the same core, as you say, drinking beer with the bros frat guy that starts sentences with "babe..". And the same with women, its like regression to the mean, girls who play games are presented as still the core girl stereotype with a few videogame-related accoutrements. Like dressing up a figurine in different clothes. Why did unlimited expressiveness that came with the internet result in MORE constrained genders

I don't understand what the fuck you guys are saying in this thread
do you think it's better to enable inceldom? do you think that it benefits men to neglect them??
why do you feel threatened by people tackling incel behaviours? at all??

>>81853947
Did I stutter?
>Boomers and Xoomers didn't have a chadsexuality problem like the more recent generations do
You're giving these old fags too much credit.

>>81854072
>>81854155
>>81854159
wouldn't it just be worse if they enabled incel behaviours? I'm so confused about your perspective

>>81854300
>do you think that it benefits men to neglect them??
amazing doublespeak, "i'm not harassing them, it'd be neglect not to intervene"

like on Man in the high castle, when he is about to press a button and start a war, and says "my duty is clear". Like he doesn't WANT to start a war, its his duty, you see.

or in 40k:
>"how can you massacre these people?"
>"what right do i have to let them live?"

>>81854300
You don't "enable" men not meeting women's genetic requirements, it's just something that either happens or doesn't happen.

>>81854324
Its really quite straightforward:
>noticing occurs
>noooo you're not allowed to NOTICE
That's the subject at hand here, distilled down to its simplest possible terms. What part of it are you having trouble grasping?

>>81854324
Being born into a non-chad body isn't a "behavior".

>>81851850 (OP)
who gives a shit about small white kids go after the sandniggers that are in grooming gangs

>>81854300
I believe they're saying that these kinds of initiatives are going to lead to more boys growing into unfuckable losers. Because going to turn them into pussies and women aren't going to find them attractive.

>>81854333
I don't know what you're trying to say
I'm not attempting any double speak, I'm trying to understand the perspective.
what harassment is going on?
>>81854340
inceldom is a behaviour and a culture now, I am sorry if I wasn't clear about what I meant
but there are definitely things you can do to make it seem acceptable and enabled.

>>81854360
Yeah this essentially. Thanks for summing it up better than I could.

>>81854300
>>81854324
Shitting on men who are already shat on IS enabling incel behaviour.

>>81854324
>enabled incel behaviours
And singling out boys for bullying won't do that?

>>81854374
>inceldom is a behaviour and a culture now
Next you'll be calling it a movement.

Reminder that you cannot kill an idea: it has no weapon or body to destroy.

>>81854374
>inceldom is a behaviour and a culture now
No, it's a state of being, and that state of being is caused primarily by your looks.

>>81854373
oh, that doesn't make any sense. maybe the incel problem is deeper rooted in the indenty of some young people than I thought.

>>81854385
>>81854393
who is getting bullied for what reasons?

>>81854419
Holy shit, they really dropped you on your head when you were born huh?
The normalfag, everybody.

>>81854415
then there isn't anything to be concerned about, right? The only thing they can focus on is correction errant behaviours. If you're just unattractive, you don't really fit the bill of behavioural problems, right?

>>81852931
why do you think a prostitute will fix 'everything'?

>>81854439
That's gold, Jerry. Gold!

>>81854433
no, I'm pretty smart and have good social experience.
what I replied to was nonsense. You don't become less attractive when you're friendlier, that's a stupid meme and only retards fall for it because it's demonstrably false.

>>81854419
>i dont understand this
>so you must be wrong
>even though i have zero idea what i am talking about
lmao

>>81854419
>doesn't make any sense
Does it not? It's not like the kinds of guys that get laid are huge feminists or anything. I don't think

>>81854454
hmm have you considered that there might be behaviour issues here after all?

>>81854439
>only bullies object to being bullied
>therefore if you dont like being mistreated, it must be because you deserve it

>>81854459
>I'm pretty smart
but then you say this:
>You don't become less attractive when you're friendlier
Friendliness and attraction are mutually exclusive concepts.

>>81854428
>who is getting bullied for what reasons?
Kids that are ugly and weird. The kinds of kids that would get singled out and bullied for being "Incels". Shit like this always just leads to kids getting singled out.

>>81854439
Yes you do, because they're equating being unable to get laid with being a knife killer misogynist. They believe that women are wonderful, and so if none of those wonderful women want to envelop your dick then you must be evil.

>>81854460
no, I understood this one.
>>81854464
yeah? the typical man in a long term relationship respects their partner and women. I wouldn't be surprised if it was more common than not.

>>81854487
no they aren't. we both know that friendly, supportive, and constructive people are more attractive than antagonistic, whiney, destructive people.

>>81854502
It's already been scientifically proven that being a toxic misogynist is correlated with higher sexual success, so you're clearly wrong about this.

>>81854474
who is getting bullied for what reason, exactly?

>>81854428
The class loser, the awkward quiet kid with weird hobbies, the ugly one that's already being targets for mockery/bullying. This is just going to make things worse for him and increase the chances of turning him into an incel.

>>81854439
I guarantee the teachers, especially the female teachers, will pick on the easy target and not on the actual trouble makers, I guarantee this program will teach the boys just how to be a bigger losers and fuck them over later in life, and I guarantee this targetting will just make everything worse.

>>81854502
>typical man in a long term relationship respects their partner and women
I think you could find losers like that that manage to settle down with a girl in their 30s. But young guys that actually get laid, aren't going to be feminist.

>>81851850 (OP)
I always find it funny how they hyper focus on lonely incel guys. Guys who don't even speak to women on a frequent basis. While the Chads and the guys who actually get laid are the ones who are physically violent with women or partake in 'locker room' talk where they tell each other about how they coomed on a girls face 200 times.

Like, they've got it all wrong. And I understand there are some unhinged individuals that go out and shoot up schools because of their mental instability like Elliot Rogers. But this simply doesn't happen in the UK.

>>81854454
>>81854439
this is the kind of cognitive innoculation you can't get anywhere else

>>81854471
Alright, I'll drop the acerbic juice for a moment and try and level with you. For the record, I am not a virgin and the last time I had sex was around 6+ months ago. I'm currently single by choice because my last relationship sucked and ended badly. I do not fit the stereotypical definition of an "incel", unless we're using "incel" here as "anyone who disagrees with women/leftism/feminism/etc etc". However I do get where they're coming from. I was a shy nerd as a teenager and have been treated badly by women.

The majority of men are raised to be doormats, be supplicant and basically be spineless and told "this is how you get a wife and a happy life". Reality simply does not square with that and the internet has allowed mass noticing to take place and these men to see that they're being sold a lie, and on top of that, the system expects them to conform to that lie, and any "stepping out of line" is to be met with shaming language and punishment.

Meanwhile, these same men see other men break these rules in front of their eyes all the time and get rewarded for it. They call out this obvious disparity and are told to stay in their lane.

Would you accept that? I wouldn't, and I didn't. Neither should they.

>>81854543
the new kid that changed schools and wasn't around when the friend groups cliqued up

sorry my break is over and I'm back to work so I couldn't reply to all of these
but I do not think the problem these people are referring to is the ugly or weird outcasts who don't bother people. I don't know why you would even assume that.
They aren't talking about you or your experiences, they are talking about the bullies and attacks they do notice.

>>81854601
I think it's to do with looks and height though. Men who are bad boys and have the looks can get away with it. Some manlet who is trying to act tough just gets laughed at

>>81854625
>do not think the problem these people are referring to is the ugly or weird outcasts who don't bother people
Doesn't matter. That's who's going to get singled out.

>>81854625
>they are talking about the bullies and attacks they do notice.
They don't need a new policy for bullies. There are already policies and plans in places for bullies yet they do not do anything, because the teachers either cannot be bothered with all the trouble, or the bully is a charming alpha who the teachers like. This incel policy is not for targetting bullies, it's for targetting the weird kid.

>>81854596
criticism bounces right off a successful chad, and he might even push back
but a mindbroken, obedient loner will simply let you lecture at him. Teachers get to be Doing Something about the problem (tounge-lashing young men) in the safest possible way (abusing someone who can't do anything about it)

but thats british culture for you. during ww2 when the government couldn't do anything to stop german bombers, they framed it as a moral failing of the wider population, and handed "wardens" the moral authority to cudgel whoever they wanted. The germans had compasses and maps and shit obviously. but by framing the problem as a moral one, any failings by the government (ineffective air defense) can be redirected back onto the undesirables in the population (some catholic must have been drunk and left his lights on!)

and it has a built-in way for you to show how obedient you are, just go to bed at lights out. Wear the mask. Good goy.

>>81854668
Yea, what I should have added to my post is that the men "getting away with it" are all taller, better looking, rebellious, DGAF attitude and such, and that is the disparity.

>>81854585
They're just chad, nothing else matters. Behavior doesn't matter.
Women when sub-8 is a feminist:
>"Ick, what a pussy. When did men become so neutered?"
Women when chad is a feminist:
>"What a kind and sensitive soul. Other guys need to take some notes from him."
Women when sub-8 isn't a feminist:
>"He's such a chauvinistic creep. Society needs to teach men like him a lesson."
Women when chad isn't a feminist:
>"What a man's man, he makes me feel like a woman, I love it."
Only looks matter. Nothing else matters. Everything is fake and rigged.

>>81854625
>ugly or weird outcasts
>not incels
ooh okay you're just going to go after the BAD ugly and weird outcasts, WE shouldn't have anything to worry about and the definition definitely won't expand when demand outstrips supply

>>81854714
Based as fuck, really.

>>81854300
The solution to "incels" is to make sure people actually enter into relationships, or at least have a way to have sex when needed.
You can't just endlessly browbeat men about not being nice enough. Men are only one half of a relationship.
You also shouldn't be telling them blatantly incorrect things like "women just want you to be passive and respectful".

>>81853115
Drag performances are minstrel shows for gender instead of race

>>81854571
Definitely happened to me once or twice. The people picking on me get ignored, but I get in trouble for pushing back. The young female teachers in particular love pulling that one out.

>>81854842
Of course, me too. Why is why I know this program will have the opposite effect that they will think it will have.

>>81854828
we must show the patriarchy is dead and buried, by mocking it. until women feel safe. (there is no upper bound on safety)

>>81854842
>throw a wad of paper into anons back
>they stand up and start screaming
they were good and correct to trigger you

The real reason for this is that replacement migration has so many young brownoid kids from conservative families that the millennial teachers can't handle. They can't even talk to their parents about it, because the brownoid parents agree with the kid.

They try to make it about "incel culture", but what they're really struggling with is black and arab culture and they can't admit it.

>>81855133
>they stand up and start screaming
Understandable if you're being humiliated constantly everyday.

>>81855133
They literally pushed me, and I turned around and pushed them back

>>81852607
the l*fts role models for men are:
>destiny, the guy who literally sucked bwc on camera
>hasan, pussy who's too scared to fight
>will stancil, 2016 era numale
meanwhile rightoids have guys like connor mcgregor and old ted
just kek...

>>81855583
Connor McGregor isn't a good role model.

>>81855632
>can fight
>bwc
>wants pusslims out of his country
better role model than most guys

>>81855583
that's not really true, your data is being skewed by the internet
Leftys do not care about those freaks

>>81855652
okay who else is there?
>bernie sanders, lame ass old head
>muslim nyc guy, ugly ass muslim faggot
>jeremy corbyn, muslim loving scumbag

brah i dont think theres a single masculine guy on the left

>>81855583
left and role model don't go together because it's decidedly impossible to solve everyone's problems. that's why in groupism is so appealing to the right: sure shots are better than strivings.

>>81851876
Men shouldn't be teachers, unless we're talking about professors who teach more advanced math or science.

This could be solved if people touched grass and had real interactions with humans. A teacher is fundamentally no different than the books and articles that define their curriculum. In my generation nobody gave a fuck about who the teacher was because we had real relationships with people. "Representation" was not a thing and we all saw that concept fail and be proven wrong in every country that tried it. If the teacher is good, then she is good. If she is bad, you learn elsewhere. 99% of your life should have nothing to do with your teacher and instead be influenced by your community, which yes you should only get advice and life skills from other men who are slightly older than you and slightly smarter than you at any given time. Boomers can't help because they are out of touch, and people your age can't help because they see you as competition.

There are literal immigrant gangs controling no go zones in the UK and they care about inkwells.

>>81854585
hey anon, sorry to single you out
but do you really think that casual sex in your 20s is more valuable than a successful relationship?
Do you even understand what you're saying here?

>>81854300
>why do you feel threatened by people tackling incel behaviors?

Because they aren't tackling incel behaviors. They're just lecturing lonely men on how they shouldn't be one of those nasty incels
without actually solving any of their problems. These people think that there's a perfect combination of words in the perfect order that will magically make incels go
away. The problem is not going away without serious change (by serious, I mean stuff like laws being signed regarding gender responsibilities and privileges, or some other serious form of government aid in regards to intimacy, like prostitution). Gender relations cannot continue as they are for much longer before something breaks.

>>81851850 (OP)
They gonna teach them to rape like migrants?

>>81855945
They could change the divorce laws so beta buxxing would at least be less risky.

>>81855683
>casual sex in your 20s is more valuable than a successful relationship?
Why would I want to go through my 20s never having sex or having a relationship and jump right to having a serious relationship in my 30s? Especially when any woman I'd end up with will have had all those experiences I didn't? It just doesn't sound appealing to me.

What's the "culture" around never having had sex despite wanting to?
What even is an incel anymore

>>81856077
An incel I would say is someone who hates women who is a virgin. But I don't know why they focus on incels specifically instead of general misogyny. Especially since the UK doesnt have school shootings like the USA has. So incels have even less relevance in the UK

>>81856188
Is way more likely that non leftist men in general that speak against their policies like immigration are the incels thay are talking about

>>81856188
In my experience, anyone who disagrees with a woman is an "incel"
I used to be annoyed with women when I was a younger man, but I didn't start hating women until I got laid a lot

>>81856188
they're trying to blame rising levels of violence against women on incels, instead of blaming it on brown people.

I've literally done nothing in my life except kind of sit around feeling useless, and repeatedly fail basic tasks that should be easy. I'm not a danger to anyone, unless maybe someone asks me to operate heavy machinery.

I may talk shit here and there, but I'm not the one hurting people. I try to be nice to people whenever I can, because I genuinely want to make the world better.

>>81855670
Bernie Sanders isn't a leftist. He even went on Joe Rogan recently.

>>81856541
Joe Rogan is basically a leftist.