Antinatalism is so selfish and stupid.
>waaah my life sucks so therefore ALL lives must suck!
>I have absolutely no concept of different perspectives
Like, it's ok if you don't enjoy life and want to doe. But stop acting as if your experience is universal.

Tbh these people were right all along:
https://www.vhemt.org/

>>81853349 (OP)
yeah i don't jive with the total extinction people

>>81853349 (OP)
I want to punish my parents for making me a homeschooled autist
it was their responsibility to do the bare fucking minimum

>>81853349 (OP)
the good part about antinatalists is that eventually they'll kill themselves and stop bothering everyone, it's a win-win

>>81853349 (OP)
Im short and ugly, why would I want to make my kids suffer through that?

>my life is bad
>therefore all lives must end
Literally the mentality of a child

Only white people and east asians should have kids
T. Mixmutt

>>81853349 (OP)
I'm lazy and would be a shit father but that doesn't mean other people shouldn't have kids.

>>81853372
total extinction (explode world theorem or whatever it's called) wouldn't work because sentient life will eventually evolve again anyway

The idea of bringing someone into the world fills me with horror. I would curse myself if I were a father. A son of mine! Oh no, no, no! May my entire flesh perish and may I transmit to no one the aggravations and the disgrace of existence.
Gustave Flaubert

>>81853714
takes a lot of faith to believe in evolution.

>>81853349 (OP)
>my life is good
>therefore I don't understand why others are hesitant about putting more humans on this world

>>81854354
nta but one of them want all life to go extinct though
it's pretty arrogant for one node to take that position on behalf of all other nodes. assuming that it's pov is not limited or colored and must be the right one

>>81853349 (OP)
>selfish
How can it be selfish if there's no victim you dumb motherfucker. You don't even have kids yourself kek.

>>81853349 (OP)
um anon, you are thinking about the pedophile Satanist glowies that rule over you that hate your guts worse than lonely internet stranger that you will never meet in your entire life

>>81853349 (OP)
No, antinatalism is stupid because literally only European people are physically capable of conceiving of the idea, and if they fall for it the rest of the retarded mongoloids on the planet will just keep breeding anyway, rendering it completely useless as an idea.

>>81853349 (OP)
Tell that to a kid with cancer, selfish breeding fuck. You probably eat meat, too. Fuck you.

>>81853349 (OP)
>selfish
If you don't have kids who are you hurting? The nonexistent children who were never born? You need to be alive in order to feel like you were deprived of something. People who weren't born don't feel like they missed out on anything.

>>81853349 (OP)
I dont like antinatalism as a movement, but as a concept for myself personally I agree. I have some pretty bad genes I dont wanna pass down and on top of that, I'd rather adopt if I really wanted to raise a kid. I got raised by people who weren't my parents so it'd be like passing it forward.

>>81853714
Thankfully we're using up all the finite resources, they won't have anything left to build a society with.

>>81853714
I wonder how many times earth has done this before

everything changed when that meat shop came to town.

i don't want kids simply because
>i have no friends and thus no social skills, kids deserve to have parents who have social skills to learn from so that they don't learn to become retards
>i got bullied in school and am a sperg, my kids would get bullied too
>i grew up with no mom so i'd be a horrible mom

>>81853349 (OP)
What if life looks even worse from a different perspective?

>>81855532
If you are European you should have children, if you are not you should not. It's that simple.

>>81853349 (OP)
When you learn about antinatalism, you learn that it largely comes from one feminist whore whose entire mission was to take malthusian ideas and combine them with "muh patriarchy is bad, therefore we shouldn't bring children into this world"

It's the core of 4B, it's the core of MGTOW, it's the core of LDAR.

These people are basically feminists who have been brainwashed so fucking fundamentally, they don't understand or even feel strange about the contradiction of forming an activist ideology around hopelessness and fear. You show them a picture of a dead animal and they turn vegan. You give them a statistic about trees and they become anxious about turning on the electricity. Its.....OVER

>>81853349 (OP)
I don't think it's a good idea to curse someone with life. They will inevitably suffer and it will be my fault, they never consented to conception or birth, existence and awareness.

On the other hand, I don't want my life to be ruled by the fact that I have created offspring. The selfish part kicks in, I want my money, my time, my health and my resources to go for me.

My genetic baggage contains flaws that I do not wish to pass on to anyone whatsoever.

>>81853933
If creationism was real then humans wouldn't be chadsexual cuck monkeys.

>>81853349 (OP)
I find it very interesting when they use two specific arguments. The first, that they didn't give consent to exist, is ridiculous in itself. The second is that their parents are obligated to support them financially for their entire lives due to the first argument.

>>81855691
>The first, that they didn't give consent to exist, is ridiculous in itself.

It's only the truth. They never asked for this

>>81855634
1. The mental gymnastics of using genetics and "meme suffering" in the same argument is pure sub-20 IQ slop.

2. Both of your statements are on the extreme end of selfishness and narcissism, there's no "other hand" and I think you got lost in your own sauce trying to come up with some second point.

3. narcissismmaxxing is not the same as antinatalism, and you clearly consented to that lifestyle so you think it's valid. at the very least, all you are saying is that if someone has normal genetics they should pass them on which is fine.

>>81854647
Because it's an affront to the cycle of life in your own community and is ultimately motivated by the discomfort of giving something away to someone else, even your own blood. In rare cases it's a different kind of selfishness where their standard for a life worth living is so high that it's unrealistic, then they are just a retard.

Childless people are generally selfish people as a rule because they have no future, they live more myopically and haphazardly. It's not always a bad thing and it's not exclusive to childless people, but you will not find an antinatalist who isn't motivated by outlandish levels of selfishness.

>>81855760
>narcissism
Do you even know what that word means? How am I being narcissistic? Are you just throwing terms hoping something sticks?

It seems you have no argument against the genetics and suffering argument, so you resort to calling it Low IQ in order not to have to argue against these points.

>>81855760
Having a child is narcissism. As if we need or want more of you, you're so selfish and full of yourself that you forced life onto an innocent soul where it will inevitably suffer and die, all because of YOUR narcissism.

>>81853375
Homeschool, u don't know how bad it is outside

>>81855700
That does not make any sense, the prerequisite for giving consent is to exist

>>81856087
Exactly, and by the time they exist and are able to consent, it's already too late, you've cursed them with inevitable sufffering.

>>81856112
>inevitable sufffering.
Hardly, You are biologically made to endure suffering, until you reach the point where it becomes just a nuisance.

>>81853349 (OP)
its more like, i didnt get to have fun in my life so i dont care about ensuring future people have the fun i was never able to have.

>>81856649
like, theres a certain fomo i have thinking about a guy 200 years from now, enjoying pleasure that alluded me.

You guys don't really suffer.