I turned 25 last month, and I've been an incel this entire time. (I believe covid fucked me over for a few years, though.) I've never had a girlfriend before. The furthest I've gone with a girl without paying for anything was making out with a 24-year-old woman when I was 15. I am virtually unemployed (Aside from occasionally helping my dad at work on certain days.), receive around $15000 a year in NEETbucks, and I live with my dad. I consider myself to be somewhere between a 3 to 4/10 in looks, but only due to obesity. I am 5'11 and jacked and on steroids, having started lifting in 2013, but I need to lose around 60 pounds of fat before I'll be lean. Once I'm lean, I speculate I'll be somewhere between a 7 to 8/10 in looks. I believe I have decent facial genetics.

Here's the thing, though. I'm carless, and I've been this way since my mid teens. I had a tall, beautiful athlete stacy crushing on me in high school, and I didn't ask her out in large part due to feeling as though I couldn't have a relationship due to not having a car, but also in large part due to fear of creating an awkward environment in class if the relationship didn't work out. I guess I was thinking back then that a breakup or deadening of the relationship would have to be nasty or really awkward, especially since I would be sharing classes with them.

I should mention I have OCD, and I believe this explains a lot of issues in my life, including why I still don't have a driver license. The insomnia caused by my OCD is the reason I am unemployed. I can't maintain a schedule. I wouldn't be able to hold a 9 to 5 or any A time to B time job.

So, at my age, and with my current states, could I still get a girlfriend while being carless? What should I expect?

>>81881170 (OP)
if you need to ask for help already you already know the answer.
getting a job and getting a car makes it easier otherwise yeah, it's very unlikely that you will be able to date anyone.
i think you just made this thread because you have nobody you can complain to that won't just say "well have you tried getting that job?"
you're not gonna escape that shit. money rules the world.

>>81881220
>"well have you tried getting that job?"
I graduated high school (online high school after two years of public high school) when I was 17. Not long after, I tried getting multiple tech certificates. I really studied for some of those CompTIA certificates. I was really into IT stuff since middle school. It didn't take long for it to dawn on me that I wouldn't be able to hold such a job due to my insomnia caused by OCD.

My current plan is to go back to college to study mechanical engineering this year. I love STEM in general, and I've self taught myself, including math up to calc 2, in the past. I'm almost certain I would need to get a driver license for this, but I doubt I would have my own car. I would be driving my dad's car, but the funny thing is, whenever that car is available, my dad is available to drive me. I can see myself studying and getting the degree. The issue is whether I would be able to get a job that would be compatible with my insomnia that wouldn't drive me insane. I have other interests, and I spend possibly an average of an hour and a half working out each day. Would I have time for everything?

>>81881281
it's like you're not even actually responding to my message you're just continuing the rambling you have going in your head. nobody is gonna be reading all this man, sorry. you shouldn't give up on stuff before trying and just failing once isn't enough. you need to keep failing, for decades. giving up shouldn't be an option for you.

>>81881170 (OP)
>So, at my age, and with my current states, could I still get a girlfriend while being carless? What should I expect?
I really need an answer for this. Self improving to the point I look really good (I'm no longer fat.), have a decent-paying job, and have a car is going to take years. I turned 25 last month. I don't want to wait until I'm 30 to get a girlfriend.
>inb4 it can be done sooner than that
If I didn't have OCD, I likely would've landed some IT job when I was 18 and have gradually climbed the career ladder. I honestly feel like my most realistic option is getting an engineering degree, since those jobs are more likely to be flexible, and this is going to take time. I'm not sure if getting my own car would be worth it. My dad and I don't have much money, and I've talked about it with him, and he told me that if I got a license, that I would just be driving his car. I really am fucked. I have self improved a lot, and my insomnia seemingly magically got much better over the years, but I don't think it's ever going to go away, so I'm going to be stuck with not being able to maintain a job on a schedule. I have consistently been lifting since January 2024 after a nearly 4-year hiatus, so I do have some discipline. The issue with the degree path is that, although I can see myself actually getting the degree and even maintaining a relatively high GPA, I'm not sure how successful I'd be actually landing a job. I'm a white male, and they're not going to give me the job just because I'm mentally ill, even though this counts as a disability. They would need to make accommodations for me, and engineering jobs are difficult to land in the first place.