blackpill thread
>bbbut n-not all women are like that!! YOU INCEL!!

>>81884923 (OP)
The inevitable life of every betabucks

>>81884923 (OP)
>calling girls slutty
>is a slut
if all women are sluts then so are all men

>>81884923 (OP)
No hymen no diamond. Simple as. Allowing women into your life and YEARNING for it is peak midwit. I would understand yearning for a virgin hyperborean 19 yo stacy. But niggas are out here flexing their 50+ bodycount 27 year old tatted roastie. Thanks for taking one for the team little bro.
>>81885662
>if all women are sluts
No. If she has a hymen at marriage she isn't a slut, that's it.

>>81885726
what are you talking about? that has nothing to do with what i said

>>81884923 (OP)
I'm already black pilled. I don't need more demoralisation, it still hurts every time I see it.

>>81885726
If she's a virgin beyond mid-20s, she's probably mentally ill and/or a religious nut.
Just don't commit to women unless you're chad. If you aren't chad, they WON'T find you attractive and CAN'T love you. If you aren't chad, just avoid women entirely, except MAYBE for fwb relationships if they offer that to you, and only if you know you aren't going to fall in love with them and get hurt when they ditch you for chad.
Just avoid women entirely. Don't fall for the "virgin tradthot" meme, just avoid all of them unless you're chad.

>>81885662
Men and women are not the same you retard, judging is by the same standards is ridiculous because we are completely different. Men are emotionally resilient, we can fuck a million women and it will not alter us much. But a woman psychologically and spiritually bonds with every man they fuck so promiscuous women become absolutely psychologically destroyed and dead inside.

Same reason why every female pornstar turns into a suicidal mess but male pornstars do not suffer much if at all.

>>81885785
why should you deserve a virgin when youre also a used whore with fwbs

>>81884923 (OP)
OMG YOU CHUD. NOT ALL WOMEN ARE LIKE THAT (teehee, let me call Chad)

>>81885816
If you partake in bad behavior, you're just as bad. Simple as.

>>81885816
right sure whatever you say
im still not having sex with a man whos had sex before

>>81885835
>flap flap flap foid babble
didn't read lol!

>>81885823
I said it doesn't matter if she's a virgin or not.

>>81885816
It's funny how your biotruths always revolve around men getting to have as much fun as possible and women not getting to do anything.

>>81885834
Gay Christfag universalist morality

>>81885845
>calling me a roastie when im a virgin
yeah you sure got me there

>>81885860
Yeah its called being the superior gender you dumb hole. Better luck being born as a man in your next life!

>>81884923 (OP)
/r9k/ is a bad board for this type of thread.

>>81885903
>Demoralized channer calling women holes wonders why his life is shit

>>81885924
Notice the engagement numbers of the post and the comments.

>>81885924
men also do the same shit are you dumb

>>81885924
>>81885931
An anon on /fit/ once told me:
>have you considered that average women are fucking insane on top of being average?
>no bullshit not fucking with you but I get WAY better results with beautiful women irl than mid girls. mid girls start with a chip on their shoulder.
>Dont underestimate how fucked in the head and status-obsessed women are.
>When mid girls get to fuck chad twice in their lives via dating apps they think they DESERVE 11/10 every time.
>Women who feel self-confident (unironically) are much more open to realistic relationships. They know chad is a fuckboy.
>When you demonstrate that you're not afraid of them or afraid of how beautiful they are you've basically already won.
>Also dont be DYEL but we've established this.

>>81885937
>>81885931
Chads maybe. But the more important takeaway is that engaging in hypergamy, even if only once, permanently raises women standards.

>>81885955
how can chads date up if they are chads? they would just be looksmaxxing or dating down. you are using circular reasoning, im not reading the rest of this

>>81885954
>>81885955
I agree that good health, especially good hormonal health, is vital for a good life, but it's still not going to cut it in dating if you're short and ugly. Though, I guess if you had enough money, you could get plastic surgery and leg-lengthening surgery.

>>81885776
I've had this thought especially on dating apps. "Going on dates" itself is a sign of low value, Chad just asks them to come over and suck their dick.
>"b-but m-maybe if you get some hobbies she can get to know you and you can get that date bro"
Meanwhile she can fuck Chad that same night. I don't fully blame her, I'd fuck hot women tonight if I had the chance. I swear the most blackpilling thing for incels is actually the advice that normgroids give, especially Boomers. So out of date, time-wasting, so misguided, so optimistic, and in some albeit rarer instances, dangerously wrong. The truth is that the average person how no idea why they succeeded and they certainly didn't jump through flaming hoops to get there.

>>81885977
Average men don't really date 10/10s pretty much ever.

>>81886005
>average men dont date 10/10s
this is so false its really laughable if you take a look outside

>>81886019
Lol, where do you live? I feel like you're just trying to pull my leg here.

>>81885987
that only works if they go for ugly girls

>>81886019
Because you think a non obese woman is a 10.

>>81886054
What do you mean by that? Originale.

>>81886019
Why does every normie claim to know some 5'3" balding Indian janitor who fucks 10/10s?

>>81885987
Feels like a truth conventional missile. I think there's some truth, but also Chad does like to go on dates to woo a high value Stacy and show off his wealth. They do this shit with low quality women which makes it funny

>>81885662
It doesn't need to be all, most is more than enough. And it is most. Women today are offended at just the idea of not fucking multiple men that won't stick around. Their best idea of freedom is fucking a dozen plus guys before meeting their "soulmate".

>>81885954
>When mid girls get to fuck chad twice in their lives via dating apps they think they DESERVE 11/10 every time.
Yea back in the old manosphere days we used to call this phenomenon "the alpha widow". Where women judge all future relationships and prospects to the hottest guy she dated.

>>81886086
>high value Stacy
There aren't any left, it's just whores all the way down. This isn't like a teen movie 1990 anymore, those are gone.

>>81886073
a balding indian janitor is not an average looking man you idiot

>>81884923 (OP)
this image is so stupid it doubles around to the stud being the final cuck in the story

>>81886114
There are, they're just incredibly hard to find. Even Chad struggles, that's why it feels like so many of them just don't settle

>>81886057
no i dont, you just dont see slightly below average women and below as human beings so your attractiveness scale is messed up

>>81886132
>Even Chad struggles
That's just due to Chadflation

>>81885987
The correct path is to:
>briefly get acquainted with a woman
>signal to her that you find her attractive and want to give her sex
>if she accepts AND the sex is good AND it turns out you have romantic feelings for her, try to advance the relationship into a romance
Get the question of sexual compatibility out of the way as soon as possible. Everything else is a waste of time if she isn't physically attracted to you.
>but they're only physically attracted to chad
If that's the case then most men should avoid romance.
>but that's horrible!
Yes. Humans are a horrible species, the sooner we go extinct the better.

>>81886126
Well, do you have any pictures of these supposed average Joes with 10/10s? Because if I don't see it, I don't believe it.
Btw: I mean average as in both looks and wealth-wise.

>>81886126
He may as well be. Translated to IQ, women think the average man is the looks equivalent of brain damaged.

>>81886134
That post was about 10s.

Guys, seriously, trust me, the blackpill isn't real! You don't have to be a "Chad" to get girls! I'm a girl and I'd totally date a short (5f11ft-6ft) guy as long as he had a good personality. My current bf is 6ft5 and the previous one was 6ft4, but I chose them for their personality- they're just so fun and outgoing! Their height, blonde hair and piercing blue eyes weren't a factor at all, trust me.

>>81886151
> if she accepts
Your strategy falls apart here because womyn only give their holes to Chad.

>>81886163
The cruelest are the ones who had a 5'8 bf and they clearly resent them, while being head over heels for they currently 6'2 bf that they conveniently didn't mention

>>81886134
That's the worst piece of female projection I ever saw. I admire the chutzpah required to type this out.

>women are attracted to... le attractive people?
>I'm so friggin' blackpilled right now, bros.

>>81886071
if she is not used to chads she will bend over immediately sure
but if she gets asked out by chads all the time they have to do the dance same as average people are doing

>>81886167
Normies can hook up sometimes, but the sex isn't good. Most men either can't give women satisfying orgasms or can't make them cum at all because their womanbrains don't let them experience a satisfying level of sexual excitement unless it's happening with chad.

>>81885834
Tell that to all the women who think less of men who haven't run their dick through a bunch of whores. Women see men using other women as sex toys as a form of twisted validation for his quality. Even without the hypocritical social way of judging sex women are both the ones who get pregnant and are more likely to catch stds than men. So on multiple levels men and women having sex doesn't mean the same thing. Even if you wanted to judge men who fuck many women the same as slutty women are judged you're not stopping the many women from lining up for those men. If women will line up by the hundreds or thousands to fuck wade wilsons who are in the news for killing other women you're not stopping them from lining up for guys you cried about being slutty. You don't matter nearly that much when it comes to being a leader or idol for women and besides that these women don't care about the morally right option in life. Guaranteed if you start crying about how these men who can actually financially or genetically afford to run through all these bitches with their dick being sluts the women will either not give a fuck or be more interested in being the next cum sock.

>>81886188
couldn't go the 'ru award

>>81886188
I mean... Yeah? I'm obviously very ugly and I can't help but feel bitter that I'm missing out on a key part of life.

>>81886188
>women are EXCLUSIVELY attracted to... le tall, blonde guys?
>well duh! this is obvious! I mean like duh!

Ok so whats the point of living as an ugly man then?

>>81886185
you admire my confidence to say it because its true

>>81885931
>>81885955
I feel like this is cope and denial behind the bravado, women who embrace being used like this would have to verge on psychopathic. The damage is real though and affects them, they're not wrong about that

>>81886209
It is what it is. If this makes you upset then you're not ready for actual thermonuclear blackpills.
>>81886210
Nothing. But this is all common sense and only the most delusional cretins have been denying it.

>>81886224
WOMEN are the ones with outrageously high standards, NOT MEN.

>>81886210
Everything in life that's not connected to women.

>>81886237
so basically everything? Lol

>>81886237
So nothing? The entirety of modern society and everything that humans do revolves around the hope of eventually finding a mate.

>>81886188
The attraction is obvious and expected. Well maybe less expected since women also lie about looks mattering. But going on dates where you're paying to simply hang out with her and take a potential relationship slow while she's giving the best she has for free is pretty blackpilling. You're paying and wasting your time trying to respect a woman who's loose and doesn't respect you or herself. There's no reason to be paying and hanging out with women who are fucking other men unless you're a cuck who can enjoy that type of thing. Guaranteed if women honestly said they were getting creampied by other guys prior to their date it would kill the mood and the dates wouldn't happened. That's why they have to lie and hide things.

>>81886250
Buy a PS5.

>>81886230
>thermonuclear blackpills.
Like?

>>81886246
He's right in the sense that life does not have a pre-defined purpose. It's a petri dish, a sandbox.
You can either find a way to cope or live in misery.

>>81886257
>PS5
>not a PC
holy fuck you guys cant even cope right

>>81886230
I've already been hit with supernova blackpills. But the reality is that no matter the quality of the blackpill it will still hurt. Just like how you can incapacitate a man with a well placed bouncing betty

>>81886273
Option 3: Elliotmaxxing

>>81885931
I don't trust engagement numbers anymore after seeing obvious bot posts with thousands of likes more than just about most every other comment. Women do these things for sure but this is obviously artificially being boosted to get a reaction.

>>81886210
Now listen you whiny little bitch you should be grateful to be alive at all and work more for less reward because my retirement relies on your efforts like those who retired before me relied on mine. Life is hard, life is unfair, you're not entitled to anything and that's why we create children like you so you can enjoy the privilege of participating in the collective sport of humanity making the best out of a shitty deal.

>>81886273
Not really. The need to feel sexually desirable to at least some members of the opposite sex is hardwired biology, there's no getting around it. If you can't have that in your life, you can't be happy. And the unfortunate truth of humanity is that the vast majority of men aren't attractive to anyone and are coping about it.

>>81886296
>The need to feel sexually desirable to at least some members of the opposite sex is hardwired biology,
I am not denying that. All I'm saying is that if it's out of reach then it's out of reach. There's nothing you can do except for seething until you blow a gasket or dedicating your life to finding a way to dull the pain.

>>81886287
..the we cant retire anymore.

>>81886210
Women might be more attracted to those men but they don't only fuck those men. And they still cuck those men with other chads or uglier men. There's many things to enjoy besides relationships with shit women and if there really wasn't you would have already roped.

>>81886296
I like how it was written here,
>Love, belonging, and esteem all come from outside the individual's body. Negative liberty, the absence of any positive or negative encroachments, cannot create the whole human being, if Maslow's model correctly tells us how humans are constituted.
This means as long as men are not receiving these things, cope is impossible, they will simply fail to self-actualize.

>>81886322
The thing to do is try to make as many other men aware of it as possible by spreading blackpill.

>>81886363
Unfathomably based desu

>>81886341
At least it's not all bad and there's still things to enjoy. One day it could be better but meanwhile life can go on without women like it has for many.

>>81886341
Of course we will fail to self actualize. The question is whether we will rope at 35 or find something at least somewhat enjoyable.

>>81885776
>Mathieuu
>Mathew
imagine believing anything a jew posts on the internet

>>81886259
>Like?
Try this. I'm not finished with it yet, it's just a rough sketch.

A fun fact for after you've finished reading:
In his later years Nikola Tesla became convinced that women will make an attempt at exterminating men as soon as they have the means and also became insanely obsessed with birds for some reason.

>>81886388
'Of course' is a strong statement. Outside of /r9k/, they still act like we have some kind of inexplicable moral defect and not that we're like Harry Harlow's monkeys damaged forever. I wouldn't say that this is majority opinion

>>81886416
Here's the Tesla interview from the newspaper.

>>81886259
Hybristophiliapill is a pretty bad one.

>>81884923 (OP)
women like this should be culled.

>>81886224
Do you genuinely believe this? Like seriously?

>>81886502
Women genuinely despise men they don't find attractive, which is the majority of men.

>>81886134
never listen to what a women says about ratings, they always overrate women and underrate men

>>81886434
Bees and ants are bad examples. Who's working for who? Do you think the queen is enjoying her life as a breeding machine? Other examples of animals may raise the question why females "won" the evolutionary arms race. Without in-depth knowledge of biology this battle of the sexes is just schizo rambling political ideology.

>>81884923 (OP)
It doesn't matter how much effort you put in or if you try to genuinely help others. You will always be lesser.

>>81886502
It's kind of insane just how many of these videos there are. Sure they steal the same joke, but it's fascinating just how much contempt they have for manlets.

>>81886551
The sad thing isn't just that I won't find love, it's that women are not worth loving.

>>81886551
Damn, normgroids have really weaponized the blackpill to mock others. Who tf thought making this mainstream was a good idea.

>>81886434
The talk about killing men off is kind of melodramatic and sounds like there's still some of putting them on a pedestal. Women trying to be faggy men and compete with men instead of working with them did ruin things though. Sometimes it feels unlucky to be born at a period of feminism/female supremacy where the women used their freedom to be worse than the patriarchy they complained about.

>>81886559
I wonder if these kinds of women have been spending so much time getting run through by narcissists and bullies they think it's normal, and they're picking up the same personality traits like ticks. Women acting like this is not normal

>>81886551
He still looks better than probably most the people mocking manlets and could still get pussy

>me being metaphorically crushed by the metaphorical hydraulic press of life
It never begun guys

>>81886599
They jump on any dumb trends too. You can't trust much of what they say.

>>81886546
>Other examples of animals may raise the question why females "won" the evolutionary arms race.
Which leads to... what exactly, what kind of lives do the males of those species live? Break it down by chromosomal arrangement and look at species where the male can't defend itself.
It can be reduced to a very simple pattern

>Foreign male chromosome + stronger female = male exile/dispersal or immediate disposal
>Foreign male chromosome + stronger males = Tournament mating, male exile, bachelor/matriarchal herds, segregation, avoidance
>Foreign female chromosome = effortless pair bonding, the male doesn't any signs of the same hostility whatsoever

Why is it that the direct opposite can be observed in large birds of prey who have the reversed chromosomal arrangement and the females are roughly 30% larger than males yet still pair-bond with them effortlessly?

There are obviously exceptions as always, but the overall pattern does fit.

>>81886645
>doesn't any signs of the same hostility whatsoever
doesn't show*

>>81886188
You don't get it obviously. Women always claim that men should lower their standards, meanwhile they date the top percentage of males.

>>81886588
>The talk about killing men off is kind of melodramatic
It is melodramatic and most likely won't ever happen, but the underlying hostility is here to stay forever.

>>81886502
>I'm going to repeat the same joke that's been said numerous times already while making obnoxious faces at the camera
How are these subhumans not embarrassed by themselves?

>>81886525
She's a gorgeous 10/10 you sexist incel!

>>81886502
>women have different interests. They're not a hivemind!

>>81886617
It tries to be a blackpill, but I was mirin. I honestly don't think he struggles with dating at all, cutemaxxing essentially. Which is why I think this video was made by retard normies that don't understand the blackpill.

>>81886188
> so obvious, inkwells owned again
>...
> what?! you just said "it's over"??, WAIITTT!!!!!! but there's someone from everyone!! you just have to take a shower, go to a gym and work on your personality!!!!!!

>>81884923 (OP)
you are retarded. just as there are whore women, there are whore men (ie, OP).

>>81886777
>go to a gym and work on your personality
I said the exact opposite though, no matter what you do, female affection is out of reach forever.

>>81886645
I can't follow your argument. We may observe these stagnant situations but the question remains why these situations have become stagnant like that in the first place.

For example: why at some point in evolutionary history didn't rapist peacocks win form the beautiful peacocks? In that case peacocks might've evolved more like mallard ducks with female labyrinth vaginas that decrease the effectiveness of rape. Similar question for some spiders: how have females become larger than males and how did killing and feeding males to offspring become more rewarding than the male staying alive?

Similar question for humans: why have unsuccessful males failed to negotiate a better deal than the matriarchal bee hive society is heading towards? In other species males become aggressive. Yes there are laws and copes and such but obviously males feel like they're suffering regardless.

>>81886835
>why have unsuccessful males failed to negotiate a better deal than the matriarchal bee hive society is heading towards?
Maybe they just didn't evolve to fight females and never perceived them as competition or an enemy or even a threat, while the females naturally did due to the aforementioned foreign object theory.
It's entirely possible that men are just not built to contain women.

>>81886712
I can't tell if "Do your cardio." Is supposed to be condescending or motivational but if it's the former he's literally just fishing for this engagements anyway.

>>81885860
what are u talking about? The biotruth here is that most men are out of luck

>>81886019
>overrates women

>>81885977
The ideal is finding a 10/10 girl who is also your type, without even having to worry that she thinks shes too good for you.

>>81886878
Not yet. Raising children requires commitment and when a majority of women want a minority of men then a minority of men has little incentive to commit and women will be too uncertain to breed. If women want to breed then they will need to renegotiate because being the best male doesn't correlate with putting in the most effort anymore. The opposite in fact: those who are motivated to put in the most effort are the least likely candidates to breed. Future generations of males are therefore expected to have less biological drive to reproduce.

https://cheezburger.com/3017733/guy-conducts-twisted-experiment-on-tinder-as-fake-child-rapist-and-gets-horrifying-results

>>81886825
Based houellebecq scene. Though after reading the novel it hits a bit differently

>>81887073
>renegotiate
I don't know what you mean by this. I don't think such social constructs mean a lot in the long term.

>Future generations of males are therefore expected to have less biological drive to reproduce.
I actually did argue this before on topics unrelated to this. I think men aren't nearly as biologically driven to reproduce, I think their biological drive lures them mostly towards the female which is the centerpiece of their desire, the child is a byproduct of it, which is raised and taken care of out of a sense of duty, not because of a strong biological urge. If it was true biological urge, then you'd have little to no difference between less noble breeds of males and other demographics which tend to be dedicated fathers. But this is kind of unrelated to my main point.

>>81887169
From what I hear men of pregnant women and little children do seem to go through a honeymoon fase like other male animals that apparently go through biochemical changes that make them at least non-hostile to their children and even put in all kinds of effort. The idea of getting children being more or less desirable to males may also have a biochemical basis. Of course there's variety within the human species just like r/k selection.

In summary I'm not entirely convinced that male drive is solely directed at the actual woman rather than future children but I guess for the average brainless normie it's a fair point. Now what even is the desire to have sex with a woman? The new Grok girl for example proves that merely the female shape can trigger desire in many males but how can that even be?

>>81887163
if you liked houellebecq, you'll love this guy

>>81887306
>Now what even is the desire to have sex with a woman?
...the act itself?
>but how can that even be
Simple evolutionary pressure, strong instincts developed to copulate with the female, far stronger than any instinct to take care of the offspring. I think a good portion of male investment in their offspring is a social construct and men simply have an easier time adapting to such things because it feels neutral to them, it doesn't violate their primal instincts.

>>81887401
But you see this is where biological narratives are becoming mythological, Words should have clear references. When we talk about a tree then we talk about a thing we can point at. When we talk about eye color being genetic then I can still imagine a gene as a thing I can point at that gets translated into another thing I can point at and that thing will lead to a cascade of steps I can point at that will ultimately produce the eye color I can see.

But when we talk about biologically determined desires, instincts, drives and such there seems to be nothing to point at. How does perception of a woman ultimately lead to moving the muscles towards the goal of having sex with a woman? For other biological drives it's much more clear: low glucose levels cause a biochemical state in the brain we experience as suffering so our muscles put food in our mouth to resolve that tension. Does the shape of a woman likewise cause a biochemical state in the brain? Perhaps like the shape of a snake or a spider is an inherited trigger of fear?

We must find out how the male brain is hijacked because it's ruining western society.

>>81887561
>But when we talk about biologically determined desires, instincts, drives and such there seems to be nothing to point at.
This is flat out wrong, many drives and instincts can be pinpointed to specific brain states and brain regions. Technically, everything you experience can be mapped and reduced to brain states and how your brain arrives to these states is determined by your brain chemistry, the arrangement of neural pathways both of which are determined by your genome, although brain chemistry can be altered by outside factors.

>>81884923 (OP)
And yet, they say we are miserable, inhumane pricks for wanting an AI girlfriend.

>>81887561
>Does the shape of a woman likewise cause a biochemical state in the brain? Perhaps like the shape of a snake or a spider is an inherited trigger of fear?
And to answer these, both of those are correct. If you screened the process of arousal amongst let's say 10,000 males, you would find that it would map out almost like a pre-determined function, a set process with only very minor differences. Getting sexually aroused by acquired tastes would probably display only slightly differently than getting aroused by your out of the box desires, if at all.

>>81887679
If mind and brain states are one and the same then how can we be erect without desire and have desire without being erect? How can rape be simultaneously desired by the body and undesired by the mind? How can stress from a rollercoaster ride being experienced as joy while similar stress from an undesired situation can be experienced as suffering?

>although brain chemistry can be altered by outside factors.
Perhaps conditioning men to see women as monsters can decondition the desire for women but if a brain = mind = biologically determined then we don't have a choice wether we want to be with women or not and we don't have a choice whether we consume black pills or not.

>>81887916
All of your questions assume that the organism itself is flawless and can't have processes that contradict and clash with one another. But still...

>How can stress from a rollercoaster ride being experienced as joy while similar stress from an undesired situation can be experienced as suffering?
It's the difference in the chemical response, the expected "adventure" floods your brain with dopamine, the unexpected stress floods your brain with cortisol, initiated by the same or a similar stress response, but the brain responds differently due to how the event itself went through the threat appraisal process(which would probably also map out to very similar states in people with similar tolerance for risk).

>If mind and brain states are one and the same
There's absolutely no way to prove that the mind and the brain are separate entities. The mind is the sum of your wiring and the activity inside of it. Eventually, when brain screening becomes advanced enough to literally pinpoint every experience, the entire concept of qualia will be forgotten because everything will be a measured brain state. My green will be the same exact value as your green and if not, there will be a clear explanation as to why it might vary by the tiniest amount, which ultimately changes nothing.

>>81886416
People really underestimate how powerful sex drive is for men and how it drives actions. In patriarchy it's clear, you do well, you get a good job, you're a provider, you get a mate. Maybe not the best or sexiest mate but you get one. Your male productive energy is unlocked then, something horribly underestimated. Female unlocked potential is completely worthless as the last 60 or so years have proven. Women and kids are ultimately just a part of the story, a big part but not the whole story. It's hard to not feel immense loss of potential in today's world, his energy spent in constant pursuit or self-pleasure. The numerous suicides and depression cases, the loss of the future. Is it any wonder why society really hasn't made any big scientific advances in decades? Think about it, internet, cell phone, and all these gadgets were now invented decades ago. Now the only achievements are worthless chat bots and auto-image generators that we oooo and ahhh at. It's retarded. It's hard not to wonder what could be done if men's productive energy wasn't spent on these aimless pursuits how much more he could achieve. On a popular incel forum they once polled the members and found that 2/3 of the members were in STEM, a huge waste.

>>81888399
in patriarchy most men become slaves and serfs. you don't really get a guaranteed mate except in rare cases that the leaders need rapid population growth domestically. you're not providing to yourself or your family, you provide to the social hierarchy.

>>81887916
>Perhaps conditioning men to see women as monsters can decondition
>we don't have a choice whether we consume black pills or not.
Consider epigenetics, while it does not directly affect the human genome, it can affect selection pressures.

A blackpill, which is forcing observing reality through the lens of nihilism and cynicism(which undeniably produces accurate results to the initial prediction) can indeed act as a pressure to accumulate epigenetic changes, which could potentially mean that if multiple generations of men perceive women through similar lens, it might affect the behavior of future generations of women.
Although that does very little to address my worries about this potential underlying issue I pointed out with my hypothesis, which goes way deeper.

We are indeed slaves to our biology, but our biology is not entirely set in stone, it might adapt over time to new realities and the knowledge we accumulate might affect how men behave. Also, our biological evolution is now decoupled from our technological evolution, which could mean that there will be actual applicable medical solutions to all of this.

Maybe the female genome is somehow aware of it's own nature and they kept selecting for psychopaths not because they offer more protection to them, but they can reliably keep this theoretical externalized immune system in check.
That would be something, huh?

>>81884923 (OP)
I've had a few experiences like this, it's not uncommon.

>>81885982
>but it's still not going to cut it in dating if you're short and ugly
You're unlikely to be short/ugly enough to not have a romantic life.

>>81888399
>Your male productive energy is unlocked then, something horribly underestimated.
I covered that, in the long version. It's capitalizing on the human male's greater variability and dimorphism(producing a large cohort of strong enough grunts and geniuses both) through motivation. That's what everything we have was built on.

>>81886163
You're 5'9, aren't you?

i hate these creatures like you wouldn't believe bros

>>81887312
Thanks king, any books from him you'd recommend to start with?

>>81886434
>All the great achievements of man until now have been inspired by his love and devotion to woman
That's so fucking pathetic

>>81884923 (OP)
This shit literally happened to my brother. By a girl LARPing as a Christian. Women are so fucked up.

>>81888841
If that's how he felt then it must have been true in his case at least, regardless of remaining unmarried and unloved. People who don't want to impress a woman wouldn't say that.
I can also confirm that me, despite being worthless, producing nothing of value and having no achievements to speak of, would also like to impress women because it would make me feel good.

I highly suspect that it's the case for every man, whether they admit it or not.

>>81888841
It's only pathetic once you realize how fucking disgusting and awful women are.

>>81888900
Yeah, but the urge is still there despite the your acquired knowledge. You can't deny that. Whether it's pathetic or not, it will be there forever.

>>81886599
>Women acting like this is not normal
They are psychopaths, if they had a monopoly on violence we would no longer exist.

>>81888877
>would also like to impress women because it would make me feel good.
That's sad
>>81888900
Even if women were divine creatures incapable of sin, it would still be pathetic Subservience to someone is ridiculous

>>81889229
>Subservience to someone is ridiculous
I mean, it's more like how you might work hard to take care of your family. I don't think that's something that's ridiculous. Most people work their hardest for the sake of someone else.

>>81886434
>Here's the Tesla interview from the newspaper.
Tesla writes the first Blackpill article

>>81889261
Well he was undoubtedly autistic. So that makes sense.

>>81886965
>The ideal is finding a 10/10 girl who is also your type, without even having to worry that she thinks shes too good for you.
I've pulled a 6/10 who then got her confidence up because she was with me and then started cheating. Because of course you can't just say "I think I'm better than you now lets break up" nooooo we have to fuck up the guy you are with

>>81889252
>Most people work their hardest for the sake of someone else
I respect if you disagree, but for me it's not how things should be done

>>81889397
>it's not how things should be done
Do you only care about yourself?

>>81889416
No, but I would do it for my love for then, not because I put them on a pedestal

>>81889518
Yeah, same shit. Men want a woman to live and work hard for.