I cannot stand aging.
The moment you turn 30 life is effectively over. There are no more opportunities for the most life affirming substance on earth - cute young girls. Outside of prostitution, you can no longer have sex with pretty young girls that give you butterflies just looking at them. And prostitution/sugar daddy relationships cut out all the stuff that amplify the experience tremendous. The slow build of figuring out if they like you, the tension and electricity that comes from mutual attraction, the ego boost you feel from all of it.
The moment you turn 30 you are no longer cool. You are not admirable to anyone young. You become antiquated to the modern culture. There are no more aventures. There is no more youthful freedom. There is no more aesthetic romanization of your life - you are ugly and degrading and worthless. Old people are a staircase for the young. You serve as a cog in creating the world that allows the young to experience pleasure.
70% of your life is spent as an old person. It is utterly devastating. There is no cope.

>>81899813 (OP)
Holy early midlife crisis

OP I have never had sex

>>81899813 (OP)
>Outside of prostitution, you can no longer have sex with pretty young girls
so you're saying...There IS still a chance.

>>81899813 (OP)
you were a faggot young and you're gonna be a faggot old. nothing changes

For you not for me little retard.
I've done more in 2 years of my 30s than my entire life, who would've thought being financially stable would open up doors. Maybe try not pissing the next 10 years away and crying even harder when you're 40. You little piss babies make me so fucking sick, if I saw you talking like that IRL I'd smack the spit out of your mouth for talking something like that.

>>81899813 (OP)
Womp womp guess you'll have to fuck your fist again since no one wants your wrinkly old ween

>>81900110
Your early 30s I think still have some residual value if you are distinctly attractive, tall, have your hair, and money. 30-35 can be pretty good if those conditions are met. You can maintain some pretty serious aesthetic value. This is reserved for pretty elite men though. Most guys get puffy, have splotchy skin, thinning hair, etc.

come on dont be like that
you know you can still go on vacation, play video games, pet some puppies, etc. sure you might not be able to get with the youth anymore but you got a new audience of older people to become buddies with. also, you think of sex too much
you gotta adapt, anon

>>81900222
You can't have adult friends if you never had childhood ones.

>>81900118
You can't have an optimal life that way.

>>81900239
try making adult friends anyways, or just talk to your coworker or smth. dont wanna get too lonely

Being an unattractive guy in today's world feels like you're either invisible or shoved into some box: incel, try-hard, loser. And if you try to speak up about it, people either mock you or tell you to "man up." But I'm not looking for pity. I just want people to tell the truth: if you're not good-looking as a guy, the world treats you differently - and not in a small way.

Everyone says "personality matters," but not if no one gives you the chance to show it. Dating apps and social media have made attraction a first-filter test - and if you don't pass, you're out. You can be kind, funny, loyal - none of that matters if you're swiped away in two seconds. The phrase "just be confident" sounds great until you realize confidence doesn't stop people from ignoring you.

We're told to lift, dress better, make money. And we do. But if you're still not "hot," you don't get seen. Not as a romantic option, anyway. Meanwhile, people lump us in with extremes: either bitter incels or shallow alpha guys. But most of us are neither. We're just normal men trying to be enough in a world that only rewards extremes.

We don't hate women. We don't think we're owed anything. We just want to be seen, to feel like love isn't reserved for the lucky few born with the right jawline and six-pack. That shouldn't be controversial. And maybe if more people were willing to hear us out instead of writing us off, things could actually change.

>>81900260
I don't have any coworkers my age. They're all older married people. Coworkers also aren't friends.

>>81900198
Hairloss was cured back in the 90s. Not that anon but I'm 38 and have hair since I've been taking finasteride and minoxidil for years.

>>81899813 (OP)
I used to feel like that but I don't want exitement anymore, I just want financial freedom. I want to learn a specialised skill and get into a trade that allows me to earn decent money and have control over my time for the most part. I want to spend my free time hiking in nature, eating nice food, enjoying some beers with friends at the weekend. If a girl who I vibe with can join me for all of that, great, but if not, what can I do? There's no point FOMOing about what you never had. You're not the only one who lived a sexless, boring youth. I'm guessing that's the case and you're not actually a chad lamenting the passing of his youth. But either way, you got to find something to live for.

>Old people are a staircase for the young. You serve as a cog in creating the world that allows the young to experience pleasure.
We're all cogs and slaves at the end of the day. Even young people are. Try and get your money up, escape the rat race. That's the best goal there is. If I can be financially free by sometime in my 30s, that's all I want and that's way more valuable than some young pussy or whatever.

>>81900266
>And maybe if more people were willing to hear us out instead of writing us off, things could actually change.
If women aren't attracted to you they aren't attracted to you. You aren't going to debate someone into thinking you are hot. Maybe you will find someone who likes you, maybe not. Don't predicate your entire happiness on whether you get a girl or not.

>>81900329
Not always true. im 25, been on finasteride since I was 20. I have lost ground. 10% of men are total non-responders to finasteride, and even higher percentage only get the rate of balding slowed down. Its not a cure even if it is a very effective treatment for many

>>81899813 (OP)
Dead wrong faggot. Girls always go for older guys. Guy in his 30s can easily bag a 25 yr old

>>81900376
>girls always go for older guys
Girls like guys a bit older than them. Two, three, four years. Yeah, you will find girls willing to go higher than that but the idea that most girls prefer guys substantially older than them is bullshit.
>bad a 25 year old
Lmaoooo might as well just go for a fellow 30-something roastie at that point, not like 25 is that young anyway.

>There are no more aventures. There is no more youthful freedom. There is no more aesthetic romanization of your life - you are ugly and degrading and worthless. Old people are a staircase for the young.
You had that in your teens and tweenties? what do you call adventure and freedom you gayman?

>>81900376
18-22 is when they are irresistible. The way they glow and shine in person is so noticeable. You literally cannot stop looking at a pretty 19 year old when you see one IRL.

>>81900110
you wouldn't do shit to anyone because you have faggot millennial noodle arms. you are literally 32 and on 4chan.

>>81900353
Financial freedom means nothing without anyone to share it with.

>>81900376
Sex fucking sucks in your 30s because you no longer have the hormones, stamina, and sensitivity you had in your 20s.

Almost 30m,
I still don't understand why r9k anon expect me to feel at loss?
There is no degradation of my experience because my experience is non-existent.
Maybe less access to copes, worse or more finicky health, but well...that's expected.

>>81900526
Whatever you get now is vastly inferior to what you would have had at a younger age

>>81900517
This is not true. Practice having sex without cumming, ever. You will attain enlightenment in a single life.

You can still become better than you've ever been, just shift your focus from your self to the other.
Self-centered delusions is what turned all our past sweetness sour and unbearable.

>>81899813 (OP)
Don't care. I'll get woman in her 20s to be my daughterwife in ddlg relationship.

>>81900577
>Whatever you get now is vastly inferior to what you would have had at a younger age
Again what is inferior to zero?

>>81900608
I will add,
How or why do you expect me to sense this inferiority of such experience when I have nothing to base it from?

>>81900628
Your best means nothing if it's inferior to other people's best

>>81900581
>You can still become better than you've ever been

That means nothing if "better than you've ever been" is still behind most people

>>81900631
How and why do you expect me to actually understand other people's best?
Did I experience it so I can relate?

>>81899813 (OP)
I'm 40 and now certain foods hurt my tummy

>>81900594
It'll still be infinitely worse than what it would have been when you are younger. Your testosterone and sex drive will be down, you will be far less attractive and aesthetic, and the dynamic will always be skewed in her favor. She will almost certainly leave you.

>>81900353
You are a deeply castrated faggot

>>81899813 (OP)
I agree except that it's been like this since 25 years and young people are even more slaves I regret so much to have been forced to go to school during the best period of life.

>>81899813 (OP)
>There are no more aventures. There is no more youthful freedom.
Not true. I'm 33 and just came back from an adventure of a lifetime in Japan for 6 months.

>>81899813 (OP)
it all depends how well you take care of yourself.

>>81902059
nobody looks like the man on the left in the real world

>>81902059
95% of this is genetics

>>81899813 (OP)
I went to college in what's supposedly the mecca for these women and they all either date metrosexuals with wider hips than them or they eventually become lesbians and fuck women exponentially uglier/dirtier than any men they dislike. it's honestly such a shame...

>>81900398
There is virtually zero visible difference between an 18 and 25 year old, granted all other factors such as weight stay constant