I was smart enough early on to realize that I needed mental help. I was getting bullied at school (getting beaten up and made fun for no reason), and reporting them to the teachers, principals, and school police did nothing. Fighting back did nothing but get me in trouble and make them bully me worse. Going to counceling did nothing. Asking my parents for help did nothing. It was all the same empty platitudes or "you don't need friends".

I am and always have been fully aware of what's causing me to be depressed. I'm lonely and feel unwanted. But nobody ever actually helps me fix the problem that's making me lonely and depressed, all they give me is platitudes, copes and pills.

>>81900935 (OP)
At what point are you going to stop looking for help and start helping yourself?

>>81900935 (OP)
>i dislike platitudes
>also, i'm the type of prick asshole who says bullshit like "i was made fun of for no reason XDDD"
rage bait.

>>81900940
I HAVE been helping myself. Where did I say otherwise? I've been doing everything in my power to get out of this depression and make friends. I have a job. I have a driver's license. I have hobbies. I go to all the city's popular social spots and events. But I still haven't made any connections.

>>81900943
Literally the only reason anyone ever gave for bullying me is "you're ugly". Nothing personality-related. I didn't have any weird behaviors, I was just a normal and outgoing kid who enjoyed talking and hanging out with other kids.

>>81900951
It's probably not your fault if you're trying, then. Most people are messed up these days and a lot of people are struggling to form connections.
Are you sure you can't find a way to stop being depressed that doesn't depend on other people?

>>81900935 (OP)
starve yourself because there's no point

>>81900962
1. So that's not "no reason" you lying sack of shit.
2. Everything you write is a complete contradiction. Mr. Mental Illness "early on" but a normal and outgoing kid? This tells me that you were always just a fucking nuisance who ignored everyone back then when you still had a chance to set yourself on the right path, and still ignore everyone now when it's time to admit you fucked up.

>>81900935 (OP)
>I'm lonely and feel unwanted
>all they give me is platitudes, copes and pills.
What else is there if you are genuinely lonely and unwanted? All you can do is make yourself wanted and/or engage in whatever makes you feel less lonely. If you do not have the means then there is nothing but coping with it. That is what it is.

>>81900993
It isn't personality-related, so no, it's not a reason.

>>81901181
Do you think you're the first supreme gentleman narcissist who never does anything wrong here? Your whole copypasta comes straight from the pickme handbook.

>>81900993
1. It's not personality-related, so no, it's not a reason.

2. This was going on since fucking elementary school. I didn't develop the mental illness until my mid-teens.

>>81900986
>Are you sure you can't find a way to stop being depressed that doesn't depend on other people?

Yes. I already have everything else I want out of life. But without friends, it's hard to enjoy any of it. I'm tired of doing everything alone.

>>81901198
>the reason was not actshually a reason
Hello PirateSoftware. Hey are you still lonely and feel unwanted? Interesting....

>>81900935 (OP)
It's not your fault anon. Schools and their staff can be really crappy people and you're just another name on the attendance to them

>>81901172
Platitudes, copes, and pills will not give me an optimal life. If I don't fix this problem, the health problems (both physical and mental) that I've developed will never go away and I'll die prematurely.

>>81901212
If you bully someone for any reason that isn't personality-related, you're a fucking narcissistic piece of shit.

>>81901225
What is the problem? Why are you so vapid?

>>81901236
If I die prematurely, I won't be able to retire.

>>81901247
what if you get T-boned by a truck and die tomorrow

>>81901232
Now we're getting somewhere. Now what is the proper response to observing a fucking narcissistic piece of shit? In this case, normal people started avoiding you. They didn't want to be your friend. There was some action that you're not going to admit here, and the reaction resulted in you having little to no options left. It's that simple.

>>81901236
I have been chronically depressed, ill, and in pain since my early teens. I've been on all sorts of medications and therapy, but none of them have done a fucking. The only fix is to solve the issue that's making me feel this way.

>>81901247
>if i don't fix the problem i'll die prematurely
>the problem is premature death and not being able to retire
>if i don't fix premature death, i'll die prematurely
Yes that's nice. Let me guess, you spend your free time alone?

>>81901259
I wasn't the narcissistic one. I was a nice, polite, and friendly kid. The reason I got bullied was for being "ugly". That's it. They never said anything about personality, because it started in fucking elementary school.

A kid in first grade can't be narcissistic.

>>81901281
Walk through the logic of your own fake scenario, retard. Ugly people make friends with other ugly people, why didn't you?

>>81901275
The majority of people do. If you don't have anyone you can spend it with, no shit you're going to end up spending most of your free time alone.

>>81901268
So what's the issue? Why are you vapid? Saying random psych buzzwords has nothing to do with the real world, it just sounds like you don't want to grow up or care about anything, which usually comes from having an easy spoiled life.

>>81901299
I was asking a singular person if they individually spend their own time alone, actually.

>>81901303
I can't grow up without having life experiences. But I've never been allowed to experience life because I had no friends.

>>81901316
What do you think a friend is? How do you think friends meet each other and build a relationship?

>>81901303
If I didn't care about anything, I wouldn't be trying to make friends, you fucking idiot. I'd just stay home and never talk to anyone.

I do care about things. That's why I'm trying so hard to make friends and turn my life around. I want to make friends and stop being miserable and in pain all the time. I want to enjoy life.

>>81901336
I mean besides being that one troll who will never admit to doing anything wrong or learning from any of your mistakes, name 1 social activity that you care about enough to meet new people regularly through.

>OP trying to get legitimate advice and help
>Gaslighting

Every time

>>81901367
no he was saying nobody helps him. he ignores legitimate advice.

>>81901365
Going to the gym
Clubbing
Sports
Car shows
The hobby club

I'm not some shut-in. I go out a lot.

>>81901375
He literally said in the OP that nobody IRL ever gave him legitimate or helpful advice.

>>81901379
you have gym partners or people you hang out with after working out?

>>81901390
by definition, he's ignoring the advice. he's not an active participant in his own life trying to navigate any specific problem, he's saying other peoples words and medications didn't magically make him happy.

>>81901379
>I'm not some shut-in
Would you agree that a shut-in is doing something wrong if they want to make friends?

>>81900935 (OP)
just curious to hear from an actual loser such as yourself: what does bullying in 2025 look like? People calling swat raids on your parents? Changing your oat milk out for almond milk?

>>81901410
Where did he say he's not an active participant? By asking for advice, and putting effort into meeting people and making friends, he is actively participating.

You're making a lot of assumptions here assuming that he's anything other than a normal guy who just happens to feel lonely and isolated.

No one wants to be my friend. The real kind not just friendly chatter in designated spaces

What do people gain by insulting and gaslighting people asking for advice or help? Does seeing someone actually try to improve their life and mood generate some kind of crab bucket mentality?

>>81901468
He's making assumptions about other people actually and about the effectiveness of legitimate advice that he doesn't take seriously. The subject of the OP is not "how i am trying to make friends" it is "how other people never help me make friends"

>>81901527
Gaslighting is a feminist term that's mostly about making you think you are crazy. The OP is a self-proclaimed retard already, nobody here is trying to convince him that he is retarded if he already knows it.

He hasn't asked for help, but the framing of "people bad" will get a negative response from people just by the nature of the conversation, and generally with soft narcissists like this you tend to realize tough love or discipline is the only way for them to reframe their thinking. If the OP was forced to go out and be social, he'd very quickly learn to adapt to social environments.

>>81901379
But do you actually engage with people when you do these things or are you like Elliot Rodger expecting someone to come up to you and give you everything you want?

>>81901649
Yes. I engage with people. I approach them and speak to them.

Why are you assuming I'm some autist with no social skills? I've never had any issues socializing.

>>81901602
>If the OP was forced to go out and be social, he'd very quickly learn to adapt to social environments.

He already does "go out and be social". He's said that multiple times.

I think a big part of the problem is that in previous generations community was incidental, there were far fewer people and people were more location locked. Just by walking to the store you would see the same people every day, you wouldn't need to plan seeing people. You could just go to a bar and you would see many of your neighbors there. On top of that there was less you could do on your own at your home so you would naturally just go out and see who you could see. There is also a much greater emphasis on individualism today than ever before. Today you are your own person first and part of a community maybe tenth. In the past, most places the community came first and the individual second. It takes loads more effort to be part of a community now. it is always intentional, planned, organized to fit into many individuals busy schedules. It usually is not anyone's priority and it can be disheartening if you try to make it a priority but it's clearly not others'. People want community but the amount of effort required has increased a preposterous amount in the last few generations.

>>81901713
Nah, someone who goes out has a more specific and realistic frame of reference. There is a very clear reason why he is stuck on the concept of platitudes and is intentionally vague. He's like 5-10 years behind even the most basic autistic teenage redditors who go online looking for social advice and considering the wrong shortcut type of selfhelp shit like PUA or "how to win friends and influence people"

>>81901788
The only times I have ever heard of someone not being part of their local community is if they actively chose to reject their local community. Many such cases in recent years yeah, but you quite literally still have the same fundamental institutions that require you to participate and connect with your community whether it's for school, sports, politics, church or public events. There's a challenge in major cities for transplants to find where they would fit in because individually they are less noticeable and there are more subcultures, but as long as your lifestyle involves people, you'll find people to relate to and connect with, the rest is literally baked into your genes from 200,000 years ago.

I hope you're out of there, op. I remember those days in middle school, and parts of high school. The parts in high school were more brief than middle school; whoever said not to snitch in middle school can fuck off.

>>81901367
It's always the same.

>>81902042
this. people who keep crying about "depression" can't come up with anything original.