I'm KHHV and I don't deserve a virgin girl. I'm going to lose it to a slut that hates me

why not lose it to a slut that loves you

>>81902609
not OP, but finding a girl that loves you is the hardest thing ever

>>81902590 (OP)
Sluts are strictly superior. They're more fun, they're less prissy, and they don't get stupid afterwards.

>>81902609
That would be nice but idk if I deserve that

>>81902628
I want a girl that obsesses over me but I'm not good enough

>>81902663
>I want a girl that obsesses over me but I'm not good enough
And you think a virgin is the way to go? It's not. She might obsess since you're her first or whatever, but she'll see other guys and she'll wonder. An experienced woman wonders less, she already knows and if she's fine with you then that's an informed decision not just some random thing. I've known a lot of women in various capacities. The experienced ones were always the most loyal for the longest time to their various boyfriends, unrequited loves, etc. The virgins all ended up leaving in the end to sample other partners.

>>81902590 (OP)
>I'm going to lose it to a slut that hates me
How would that even work?

>>81902590 (OP)
someone being a virgin or not shouldn't matter if you want to date them or love them. i tend to avoid them for hookups for the purpose of sex

>>81902699
>>81902707
I have 0 self-esteem. I just want girls to like me

>>81902729
Girls are human and so inherently will like people who are nice to them. Nice doesn't mean doormat and it doesn't mean paypig either. It's really easy to get a girl to like you if you just treat them like a human. Ask them about themselves, be interested, try to connect with things they like or share things you like that you think they will too (if you're autistic be careful here). Don't get sexual right off the bat especially if you have low social awareness. Also if they're not being nice to you, don't seem interested, are playing games, just ditch them. Don't throw good money after bad.

>>81902763
some girls enjoy sex talk and flirting right off the bat but it depends on where and how you meet them and if it's appropriate. If you meet a girl at a sex party and she is already sucking a guy off it's probably not the best idea to start asking her about her favorite music. Then again I've known people who are very casual when it comes to sex and can hold a full conversation during them sooo

>>81902763
>Girls are human
Proof?

>>81902699
>And you think a virgin is the way to go? It's not. She might obsess since you're her first or whatever, but she'll see other guys and she'll wonder. An experienced woman wonders less, she already knows and if she's fine with you then that's an informed decision not just some random thing. I've known a lot of women in various capacities. The experienced ones were always the most loyal for the longest time to their various boyfriends, unrequited loves, etc. The virgins all ended up leaving in the end to sample other partners.
Statistically it's the other way around. Even one pre-marital sexual partner doubles the rate of divorce.

>>81902818
>some girls enjoy sex talk and flirting right off the bat but it depends on where and how you meet them and if it's appropriate
That's why I had the "if you have low social awareness" part. Sometimes it's fine, mostly it's not. If OP is autistic or something he should just let her initiate.
>>81902829
At the very least they generally appreciate being considered human so if OP wants one of his own he should play along.

>>81902763
The problem is that girls don't consider me (adult male virgin) human. So even actual kindness and interest will just get framed as trying to fuck them

>>81902839
There's no way to determine causality in that relationship. People who remain virgins are more likely to be religious etc and religion correlates (casually even) to lower divorce rates. That doesn't mean that women who have pre-marital sex are predisposed to divorce or creating unhappy relationships though.
Personally, I would rather self castrate with my own teeth than date than religious chick, if OP doesn't share that concern then he can join a church.

>>81902870
>There's no way to determine causality in that relationship.
Sure, but it absolutely demolishes your "hurr sluts are more loyal" anecdotes.

>>81902843
the autistic guy scoring the nympho baddy because he couldn't control his impulsive sex thoughts when everyone else was acting so proper and boring

>>81902590 (OP)
>to a slut that hates me
Why can't it just be a regular slut OP?

>>81902883
I'm low value and all women hate me

>>81902875
Not really. On average it tends to be the case because someone deemed a slut is going to love you for you and not lust after what she never had if she already had it all

>>81902868
That's just like in your head though. Talk to girls online instead, you'll have less anxiety. Or maybe work on your self esteem first that seems to be a major stumbling block here.
>>81902875
Does it? It just proves that sluts divorce more often, it says nothing about infidelity. I would posit that religious freaks probably have more extramarital affairs since they can't divorce when their marriage is unhappy. Good luck finding any real data on that though, self report is a bitch.

>>81902888
>I'm low value
That's not going to get less true as long as you believe it is.

>all women hate me
>All
>Hate
Those are some strong words there man, I doubt that's literally true on either count. The sluts in particular aren't known for being picky.

>>81902914
>That's not going to get less true as long as you believe it is.
It's over

>I doubt that's literally true on either count
Girls are mean, dude. Like really mean

The only guys sluts won't fuck are virgins so you're not even going to lose it to one of those
Unless you mean you're going to pay for it

>>81902888
>low value
>women hate me
Hey I don't know what you look like, but what I do know is that there's literally "ugly bastard" porn out there that women look up because getting fucked by someone they might see as undesirable is the entire point that makes it hot for them. There's quite a literally somebody for everybody.

>>81902945
>but what I do know is that there's literally "ugly bastard" porn out there that women look up because getting fucked by someone they might see as undesirable is the entire point that makes it hot for them.
Ugly bastard porn is for men, when women want to be fucked by inhumane things they pick aliens, insects, or dogs.

>>81902930
>Like really mean
What happened man? I won't say you're in good company here, but if there's one thing people on this board are willing to empathize with, it's this stuff.

>>81902898
>>81902899
No, on average it means that a slut who slept with degenerate scum through her youth and then settles for you once she's getting old but doesn't really find you hot will happily cheat on or divorce you because she doesn't actually like you.

Get a girl who picks you as her first choice, not one who takes you as her last option.

>>81903012
You're inferring a lot from some very messy data that doesn't actually support your inferences.

>>81903019
It was kinda funny when it was trolling for attention bait but I'm starting to think these people actually believe this

On the topic of losing virginity, genuiene question, what does it even mean?? because i recently pumped it into an escort and i still have that string attached

>>81903092
Virginity is a social construct and the precise definition varies from place to place and culture to culture. There's no way to generate a true answer here. If you feel you lost your virginity then you did.