You're not an incel because you're ugly. You lack integrity. If you think you have integrity, then you lack it.

Pic related: Lemmy was an ugly man but drowned in vagoo. He was a man of integrity, he slayed many women while fronting a metal band slappin da bass and drinking a bottle of Jack Daniels every day until he died. Dedication and manliness.

>>81916679 (OP)
Your thesis is incorrect. The guys fucked countless women, because he was a famous musician. Women are attracted to socioeconomic status. He could be the biggest hypocrite and piece of shit imaginable, and he would have the same results with women.

Lemmy was decent looking in his youth though, he was never conventionally handsome or a pretty boy but he had a scruffy look to him that worked, He was ugly in a cool way, a lot of people are just ugly in a gross or stupid looking way.

>>81916679 (OP)
integrity's the only thing i have left, anon
the thing about me is that once i start, i never stop

genuinely think my only limit seems to be the limitations of the flesh and the limitation of everyone else's time
if the world was set-up in a 24hour-time basis instead of a 9-5, i'd be unstoppable

>>81916679 (OP)
Plenty of people without integrity are rewarded in this life whether it's women money or influence

>>81916679 (OP)
I do not get how you can be an Incel, even as a turbo autist. Only volcels exist.
I have had many chances to smash poon, I just didn't want to smash that poon in particular. I have not done anything special, nor am I more attractive than most people.
You just have to touch grass and do things and the chances come. If you are not doing that much you cannot complain about it.
You are not trying earnestly.

>>81916687
That's just incel talk for "I don't want to admit that I have to improve myself".

>>81916753
It's not realistic for every incel to become famous. It's not a good general piece of advice.

>>81916762
How do you think he found success? He got it because of his good looks? He succeeded because he's a man and not a pussy who makes excuses like "It's not realistic to succeed".

>>81916689
They just need to slapp da bass

>>81916694
The fuck you on about?

>>81916751
Incels choose to be celibate but they are cowards who take no accountability for their actions, therefore they claim that their celibacy is involuntary.

>>81916767
We weren't talking about "succeeding" in the abstract (whatever that means), so don't misquote me. We were talking specifically about becoming famous. I'm sure some incels could become famous, for whatever reasons, but it would be a tiny percentage of them. While all the other ones would be chasing something for the remainder of their lives that will never come. So it's not a good general piece of advice to tell them "just become uber famous, bro".

>>81916798
OP's advice has nothing to do with fame. He just chose a famous figure as an example of how an ugly cunt like you can get laid if you stop being a whiny bitch and start slappin da bass.

I'm not famous like Lemmy. I'm ugly and I slapp da bass though. It gets me laid. Incels need to start slappin da bass.

>>81916805
>OP's advice has nothing to do with fame
The only reason that musician plowed through more women than a male model is the fact that he's famous. He's using an example to demonstrate something which his example doesn't at all demonstrate. That's why it's retarded.

>>81916783
>be 9-5
>the "standard" work hours
>most people plan their time according to this metric
say, get home by 6pm, gym at 7pm, dinner around 8pm, etc.

what I want is for EVERYTHING to be available 24/7
I want to be able to settle my accounts at the bank at 3am
I want to have a steak for breakfast at a fancy restaurant at 5am
I wanna get drunk and go clubbing at 11am

I want the world to be in total overdrive

>>81916821
Surely you've met ugly musicians who aren't famous that get laid. Slapp da bass bro.

>>81916679 (OP)
lemmy is a world known rock star lol

>>81916825
Sounds like you need better time management.

Here's my advice:

>Buy bass.
>Buy metronome.
>Turn on metronome.
>Slapp da bass.
>Magically improve your time management skills through the magic of rhythm.

You can also get the "world to be in total overdrive" if you get a distortion pedal or play through a hi-gain amp.

May da bass be with you.

>>81916864
>time management
perhaps... but why should I cave in to the whims of the masses?

>DUH BUT HES FAMOSE

Every middle-school has at least one ugly kkidthat noone notices (ie: not famous) who slapps da bass and scores with the shy Chinese girl.

Find yourself a bass and a shy Chinese girl and you're set.

>>81916845
You still need some amount of fame, even if it's only confined to a local scene. Nobody gives a fuck if you can slap the bass, if there's no audience for it. But it's true, that if you can play with a band well enough to have some people listen to it live and have a good experience, then you'll have a much better chance of scoring with the women among them. But you have to ask yourself whether this is the right kind of investment, since learning to play an instrument takes a long time and you most likely won't get a lot of money out of it. Maybe it's better to invest time into getting good at something that will also have a much more secure monetary return on investment, even if it's less flashy. If it gets you socioeconomic status, it will still help you with women.

>>81916864
I want to be like fast eddie instead of lemmy.

>>81916762
>become famous
Hyperbole goalpost moving again. You are only making excuses to not try. That is what every incel's mindset is. Never do anything that could result in getting girls, only make excuses.

>>81916905
You're overcomplicating it.

Bass gets you laid merely because you make booobobobobo noises and girls are into those sexual low frequencies.

>>81916909
Only the one on the left will get you laid. It will get you laid fast though.

Wow, you guys really have nothing to do for your summer holidays?

>>81916928
The OP made an argument, that the musician they posted is successful with women because of integrity. This claim is false, he's successful with women because he's very famous. So the goalpost isn't being moved, I'm just responding to what his example actually demonstrates, which isn't what OP claimed. And I'm not saying that an incel shouldn't try to improve their situation, but there are pieces of advice which are much more generally applicable, and don't hinge on you having to win the fame lottery jackpot.

>>81916687
this. reminds me frontman of Bring me the horizon, he took piss on his fans after sex. Still girls loved him.
>>81916753
low effort bait

>>81916962
>This claim is false
It's not. It's true. You just don't want to admit it because it would destroy your incel worldview.

>>81916904
I was the biggest fucking loser in high school. Repeated a grade, got expelled, stunk like shit because I was depressed and showering is what happy people do.

Some Stacy threw a big birthday party and who did I see there? Shy Chinese girl. I slapped da bass and the rest was history.

We've been married 17 years.

You don't have to be famous. Just stop making excuses and start slapping da bass.

>>81916986
Thankfully we can actually control for the "integrity" variable. Just look at famous musicians who are total pieces of shit and see what results they have with women. Turns out they are all swimming in groupie pussy.

>>81916962
And his ugly ass was just born into fame wasn't it? Didn't have a fucking thing to do with hard work and integrity did it?

Musical talent is just as rare as being a Chadlite or higher on the look scale. You're basically telling us
>don't get lucky with looks
>get lucky with mathematical ability
And yes, music is math. Which automatically disqualifies 98% of incels from getting a career in the field.

>>81917023
You guys come up with this shittiest excuses.

>I can't slapp da bass because I'm no good at math.

I can tell by the look of this Lemmy guy that he was a modern day Archimedes.

I'm a musician in 2 bands. You wont get women unless you're very good or very popular

>>81917023

>Musical talent

Have you actually ever listened to Motorhead, the band Lemmy was in? Does "Lemmy" or "Motorhead" sound like names one would associate with "musical talent"?

I like Motorhead, but it doesn't take a rocket scientist to slapp da bass.

>>81917055
Bitches can't tell the difference.

>>81917018
Getting famous is a lottery. You can be very good at something which you dedicate your entire life to, but still get no recognition. It may just be that the tunes you wrote happened to resonate with people. But how many musically competent people write tunes that don't? You're not looking at the whole picture. And some people get famous without hard work. Chris Chan is infamous and got a gf. That guy has no talent or integrity. He was just in the right place at the right time. Of course, our society is still relatively meritocratic, which means becoming very competent at socially useful things (like engineering) will usually grant you some socioeconomic status. But that's not fame. However, I would still urge incels to strive at competence at things that society reliably rewards, because it's just a much safer bet than trying to follow in the footsteps of a famous musician. Oh, and "integrity" is tangential. No woman gives a fuck about your "integrity", if you make music that sells out arenas.

>>81917072
This guy has never touched a bass in his life, let alone slapped one.

>>81916679 (OP)
>If you think you have integrity, then you lack it.
Proof?

>>81917095
Jack Daniels is 80 proof.

What does it tell you about the current situation of the dating market, when you have to become one of the most famous musicians in the entire planet, just for a chance to get some pussy?

>BUT HES FAMOSE AND DATS IMPOSIBLE

Getting famous isn't hard. Look at these dipshit kids with 10k followers on Instagram. All they do is tell everyone they meet to follow them and do clickbait shit.

What's your excuse?

>>81917136
>Getting famous isn't hard.
You can get famous for hard work, or for any reason. It's random. Winning the lottery also doesn't take much, just literally buying a ticket. But how many of those who do manage to win? It's just not a good piece of advice to try to focus your energy on something that is extremely unlikely to happen. Focus on building up your competence, and if it happens, it happens. If it doesn't, then you still got some socioeconomic status out of it, which is attractive to women even if you're not world-famous, and you can make a living.

>>81917133
Tells me nothing because it's not true.
Here's my story:

>Year is 2007, I'm 16 years old.
>No friends at school or in my neighbourhood, only online. Bullied by the kid next door.
>Ugly. Long greasy hair because I don't care about hygeine, and patchy beard due to inferior arab genes occupying 50% of my chromosomes.
>Start slappin da bass on my 17th birthday.
>Get expelled one week after my birthday.
>Now I'm a loser with no prospects.
>One year later, Stacy throws a party. Everyone was invited for some reason, guess she wanted the party to be huge.
>I know nobody there likes me, so I bring the only one who does, my bass.
>I go to a room where the rockers are hanging out and start slapping da bass. They think I'm shit and call me names like "Jacks Off Pastorius".
>I give up and sit on the couch next to shy Chinese girl.
>I say hi to her but she can't even remember my name I'm that fucking insignificant.
>She's having fun because she's drunk. I'm too much of a loser to drink and not even slapping da bass is winning me any points.
>I decide to ask for her number anyway.
>Next day she actually responds, we meet up and go to the city "just as friends".
>Walking around, we go to the muzak instruments store. I need to show her I can slapp da bass.
>I slapp da bass.
>I said "how long do you think I've been playing for? Most people think at my level I've been playing for at least five years (I had been playing for about a year at this point).
>"Oh umm, I thought maybe one year".
>Fuck.
>When waiting for the train back to our suburb I come up with the best idea.
>"Hey, you've got an eyelash sticking out. Close your eyes, let me get it out".
>Heart is pounding, this is the worst idea.
>I kiss her on the cheek and she jumps. Doesn't act like I did anything wrong.
>On the train home, her friends turn up on the same carriage, texting her shit like did I kiss her. Fucking embarrassed.
>About midnight she texts me and asks if I want to meet up.
>We meet up and fuck.

>>81916679 (OP)
I flirted with many incels in the past. they're incels because they're picky and don't wanna give certain women a chance. its not appearance or anything else, its just men not wanting to give women a chance.

>>81917235
>No friends
>she can't even remember my name I'm that fucking insignificant.
Anon is definitely not famous.

>too much of a loser to drink
Anon doesn't even chug like Lemmy.

>Most people think at my level I've been playing for at least five years
>"Hey, you've got an eyelash sticking out.
Anon has autism.

>We meet up and fuck.

So what's everyone's excuse now?

>>81917258
Are you a shy Chinese girl? Wouldn't mind showing you my bass skills.

>>81917258
Maybe they're not attracted to you because you don't slapp de bass.

>>81916767
Luck.
Being at the right place,at the right time with what someone else needed.
>just bet everything on 7
Yea great advice

OP:
>Have some integrity and you'll get laid.

Incels:
>Get famous and you'll get laid.

Chads:
>Slap de bass to get laid.

>>81917258
I'd give women here a chance, if they were interested in me, and if we lived close to each other, so that we could meet up for dates. Otherwise it's pointless.

>>81917345
That's exactly every incel's problem. You think it's all luck and therefore you get none because your attitude towards life is that everything is just random chance so your decisions are meaningless.

Maybe try living with some purpose. And don't give me this "I do have purpose" bullshit, because if you really had meaning in your life, women would like you.

>>81917353
"here" as in 4chan?

What do I do if I can't get a bass to slapp and there are no shy Chinese girls where I live?

>>81917397
Play a different instrument and go for a different minority like Pajeetas. Last year I pressed some random keys on piano at the local mall just to fuck around and a Pajeeta asked me for my number.

I also have inferior genes, bad hygeine, and no social life.

>>81917386
Correct. Or in theory any online communications platform, but I only post on 4chan.

>>81917439
You dug this hole yourself.

>>81916687
>Women are attracted to socioeconomic status

So explain how I got laid when I was a homeless junkie?

>"lemmy was an ugly man"
>ran one of the most famous heavy metal bands at the time
>made millions off of albums
Yeah, hes ugly, but his status was the real reason why he got laid.

>>81916940
I'm sold. Getting me a bass.

>>81917467
Could be a multitude of reasons. Hell, it's even possible that it was dumb luck. If you have a bunch of bottom-of-the-barrel incels out there, where getting laid for each of them is nigh impossible, collectively the likelihood that at least one of them manages to score for whatever reason is still reasonable. Kinda like it's practically impossible for a specific person to win the lottery, but the likelihood of at least one person winning out of millions upon millions of participants is reasonably decent.

>>81917136
>look at this guy who won the lottery
>why cant you
>>81916679 (OP)
Bro just be world famous brooo
>>81917258
Drug addicted, obese single mom on welfare dont want me. I am none of those things
But please tell me how akshully my standards are too high

>>81917472
Status? You mean that thing you have to work and make sacrifices for?

Work and sacrifice, those things that women find attractive?

Nah. It must be luck. He probably got famous because he's good looking or some other fucking lame excuse.

>>81917504
Why are you going for obese, junkie single-moms?

Your standards are too high indeed. Tell your standards to lay off the crack.

>>81917514
>Work and sacrifice, those things that women find attractive?
Lol kay dude. Lets not pretend betabuxxers don't exist.

>>81917535
Why do incels have to lump everything into categories that offer nothing but self-sabotaging self-fulfilling prophecies?

You need to stop worrying about who's alpha, who's beta, who's Chad, and just slapp de bass.

>>81917535
Betabuxxers don't exist.

>>81916904
>>81916996
>>81917235
>>81917333

Is autistic guys on bass and Chinese girls a thing?

Might just get in on this.

>>81917532
Because people on here told me to.
>your standards are too high
Who should i aim for then?

>>81917757
Quit asking for advice on the internet. Learn how to think critically.

>Opinion is invalid because he's famous.
>Opinion is invalid because women are attracted to socioeconomic status.

Do incels seriously lack the ability to question things?

Ask yourself some simple fucking questions:

>Why do people get famous?
It's because they have favourable qualities.

>How come people have favourable qualities?
Either they're spoiled, entitled brats, or they pursue things that contribute to their character, such as hard work and slappa da bass.

>Why are women attracted to socioeconomic status?
Because it likely indicates the presence of favourable character traits, likely due to actually working hard and achieving shit in life.

>How can I have favourable character traits?
First of all, don't fucking wait for me to spell this shit out for you. Quit making excuses, do some introspection, and like OP says, have some damn integrity.

>>81917778
Oh so youre trolling an dont have a rebuttal. Got it

>>81918648
>post an attractive bilionaire world famous guitarist born into wealth
>akshully he only became thosevthibgs thanks to his personality and hard work
>just magically become attractive worldwide known musician inkwells its that simple
Trolls arent even trying anymore
Fuck off im not wasting what few time my job meaves me on some useless shit i dont like whoch i will never use and wont gt me a gf