Thread 81942815

What's up with this recent trend on the Internet of everyone trying to shame you for liking porn? When I was growing up we used to have a saying: "The Internet Is For Porn." Now all of a sudden porn is bad, we need to ban porn, if you like certain kinds of porn you are human garbage. What's up with that? You don't have to be a coomer gooner freak, you can just enjoy porn and there's literally nothing wrong with that.

It makes me think I should regret the time I spent watching porn on here when in all honesty I considered it as fun as it was arousing. Porn is kind of silly and it's enjoyable to collect a lot of it, moralfags would never understand because they just think porn is some psychological weapon that harms libido and hurts women, or something.

>>81942815 (OP)
Because it make you a freak and a waste of oxygen
Serious answer: because they want you to reproduce because "the number mist go up" and deal with women bs when you are married, obviously you wont do any of these if you watch porn

>>81942815 (OP)
I don't judge others for indulging in porn but it makes real woman less attractive from you being accustomed to an unnatural amount of stimulation which makes real encounters feel less special. I used to be able to ignore the sad situations of the involved sex workers but now I can't ignore it and it's no fun anymore to me. You'll get there eventually but take your time to arrive at that conclusion by yourself as change has to be intrinsically motivated to last long term.
Just remember to block cameras / microphones on your devices to not risk getting blackmailed by hackerinos. Stay safe, anon.

>>81942815 (OP)
Normies literally make amateur porn then shame you, I hate them so much

>>81942930
>makes real encounters feel less special.
anon....what real encounters?

>>81942815 (OP)
counter culture changing, thats all.

>>81942938
Just seeing real chick when going about your life. I wasn't interested in talking to chicks when I was watching porn regularly but now whenever I see a real stunner she does make an impression on me.
I'm not talking about sexual encounters, anon, I'm still a real robot and save myself for my waifu. But maybe my waifu will be in 3D now that I feel better.

>>81942815 (OP)
because porn has been shown to be bad. The unlimited access to free hardcore pornography is a pretty new thing.

Same idea as cigs. Doctors were prescribing them, and now your e cretin and hedonist for using it. At least cigs make you look cool, crouching over your computer in a dark dingy goon room is kinda just gross

>>81942957
i don't even want to talk to a regular human that isnt my friend or family talk less a stranger woman.
i dont see insufferable interactions with normies as special i just put on my polite cheerful fake voice and get through the slog that is an everyday conversation.
and i still find average woman attractive God forbid i want to empty my balls with a visual aid once in while
respectfully anon fuck off lol
and to those that see women as less attractive the more they watch porn you are some lucky bastards truly if i was like you i would speedrun gooning and be at peace.

>>81943018
Don't go all Elliot Rodger on us, ok? Take care, anon.

>>81942977
A lot of things have shown to be bad, especially the ones complaining about porn. If this was just about what's best for health and humanity they would treat men better and try to limit women's sexuality too. But they'll die on the hill of some fat gooner who's never getting a woman as intended while the women are taking creampies from men they barely know to the point they're mutating stds, having their kids killed so the parts can be sold on the black market and creating bastards without a father. If anything we should be doubling down on masturbating and the women should stick to that instead of fucking all the wrong men on top of it. Jerking off is the lesser evil compared to what women offer in relationships or plan to do. It doesn't matter if it's not le cool looking. It's not very cool looking getting cucked or paying for women who aren't exclusive with you yet that's encouraged as necessary experience. It's not very cool being diseased mentally damaged pump and dumps but they put that above jerking it to porn. The complaining about porn has more to do with jealousy and hatred of men than health or looking cool.

>>81942815 (OP)
For women it's more about being angry that men would rather jerk off to the seemingly infinite 9+/10 girls on OnlyFans instead of simping for them, even if they would have never wanted to fuck those guys to begin with.

>>81943086
>having their kids killed so the parts can be sold on the black market and creating bastards without a father
if you want a cut of that pie you need to go to med school. you're just a jealous loser that you didn't think of it first

>>81943158
>if you want a cut of that pie
I don't so you posted for nothing

>>81943133
Yes even the men women would never fuck can still get resources or use extracted from them. Women don't want to miss out on more flesh tools.

Like a lot of things, it's bad, exploitative etc when an ugly guy does it. When Chad opens up pornhub to have a wank, it's perfectly normal

>>81942815 (OP)
boomer moralfags came along as the internet became mainstream

>>81942815 (OP)
where have you been? The narrative has changed. Feminists and liberals on Tumblr concluded that allowing the anti-porn crowd/movement into their ranks was a mistake and got them no positives or benefits.
They've circled back to thinking porn is empowering for women and there shouldn't be "kink-shaming."

>>81942815 (OP)
people are realizing that too much porn is bad. it turns people into freaks longterm. when i was younger i would be repulsed at the idea of fucking a tranny. i'm sure most people would be, but now i wouldn't mind. I was surprised when I saw someone post meatspin on here and I didn't even bat an eye. This is the nature of instant access to hardcore pornography over the course of over a decade.
And where do you think trannies come from? Porn is borderline grooming kids into being trannies. Most kids who start watching porn and end up as trannies would never have ended up that way if it weren't for pornography.

>>81942815 (OP)
i hear as of late some australian feminist cult is pushing this shit or something. jews is the other answer. otherwise, my friends discuss our preferences in cunny doujins

>>81944620
The same ones complaining about trannies have either been proto tranny female feminists or demonizing masculinity and men for nearly a century. Porn, or the porn males watch specifically, is a scapegoat and not close to the only harmful thing or even the most harmful thing in this modern world. When you threw out the normal healthier way of things in favor of petty profit and female supremacy you don't get to selectively bitch about one side of the populations porn use. They can all go back to sucking dick as they have been instead of trying to lecture their victims on how to live.

People are all so self righteous, don't you know? They'll find any excuse to one up each other. Who knows what people say in like 5 years.
>"Oh you use more electricity than me? Shame on you".
Fuck outta here.

>>81944535
Feminists and liberals are still inherently man hating and female worshipping so not much is going to change

>>81944620
This. I remember watching the Doom movie back when I didn't know what a tranny was and I was repulsed by that drug-user character for being into having sex with lady-boys. A couple of years later spending time on /b/ and /gif/ I got more and more accustomed to seeing chicks with dicks and that disgust turned into curiosity. I started to get disgusted by it again after abstaining from gooning material for a while now and also not drinking alcohol and cutting my cannabis use way down.
I don't want to know what happens to young boys that grew up on this site being exposed to all kinds of vile shit before having experienced things that should be experienced in childhood. I'm so blessed that I grew up without internet at home so I spend more time playing outside or building my custom Lego sets as a kid. I remember how disgusted I was when I found the porn-video-CDs of my father that were not very well hidden and I think that was the time I've lost respect for him in a big way. I know it's a bit silly but kids need people to look up to.

>>81945283
Cool except outside of porn kids are still fucked with chemicals or literally fucked by family members, teachers or each other so none of it is actually working like it should when you touch grass anyway. You switch one unhealthy thing for another that's more in person. The only reason they could even watch porn is because their parents don't give a fuck and probably didn't plan for them to exist in this shithole. Also because obviously relationships don't work anymore if they ever did. The porn is just cope

>>81942930
So you're saying porn makes men want to rape women less?

I mean, all an all, what's so wrong with me not wanting women as much? Why continue torturing myself just for the female ego? Women simultaniously want me to be horny for them and, at the same time, not to do anything with those feelings. It's clear they see my sexual desire as a form of socially accepted power over me they're free to exploit to their hearts content. When I say anything that can be interpreted if you squint as gay or I say I watch porn or I say I'd rather not deal with her, it's all the same. It's passive agressive sexual harassment.

No, I don't have to feel unrequited love for you. And I don't appreciate being stigmitized for it.

>>81943133
only right answer itt

>>81945371
I didn't say anything about choking that chicken to let off some pressure every once in a while, especially before important decisions to not get confused by being too horny to think straight. I think masturbating occasionally to your own fantasies or memories of real people in your life is more healthy than being bombarded with a string of 10s in short order by the magic of the internet. I remember scrolling endlessly through very attractive chicks because my dopamine receptors were so fried that I could only get aroused by porn that was very much not vanilla (not bestiality either but some of it was weird shit).
Just try abstaining from porn and masturbation for a couple of days and see how you'll pop a boner from pretty tame stuff again.
But again, it's your life and I wanted only to share my perspective, nothing more.

>>81942977
Contraception pill has been shown to be bad but nobody hurries to take it down or even talk bad about it..

>>81942977
>Same idea as cigs.
Tobacco smoking increase testosterone, helps to keep body weight down, reduces stress and incel ratio. Yes it can reduce life expectancy but who want such life anyway lol?

My balls are full

>>81945462
Maybe I don't want to pop a boner to every woman I see and want to know her for who she is first(oh wait, what if I don't like her because she's an awful person. That might help men if they did that more often. Can't have that!). Maybe this is exactly what feminists asked for, but not what they wanted since women lose their sexual appeal to zoomies, so now porn is demonized to shit, as if producing incels and monstrous unworkable men wesn'y exactly the point of feminism when it profits on the problems it supposedly seeks to resolve.

>don't rape so much you mysogynistic scum.
>okay I won't pay attention to you sexually and leave you alone and do my own thing
>n-noooo not like that!

>>81945529
Anon, thank you for this crucial information that I will cherish until I die of old age.

>>81942815 (OP)
There is a multi-billion dollar campaign by Christcuck institutes to fight porn because their make-believe Jewish friends are losing to spit-roast incest porn. Look up the "Alliance Defending Freedom" to see the bullshit the ghost-talkers are really up to.

Porn is just a waste of time.
I get my head full of ideas of working out and being productive and all that goes way after I cum.

>>81945932
Then just wait until the end of the day to do it

>>81942815 (OP)
It's cause of the modern day culture and government wanting to control us more, parents are getting lazier everyday so they just put tablets in front of literal infants; but instead of fixing the problem that is them, they rather censor the internet as "for the kids" when really they just want to control you more, we have less freedom now than our ancestors did, the west really took a right-wing turn over the past few years and now everyone are acting like moral bastards, you don't care for the kids; you just want to feel like you do, children ain't meant to be online, pornography is. I'm currently in the UK and apparently they now want me to use id for this shit, I already hated all religions but god damn it don't push your faggotry beliefs on the general populous, and then you have the feminist pushing for it since they realise that nobody want to fuck them since most people can masturbate to actual good looking people, I don't even like porn or women, I much rather do some hardcore bdsm stuff with another man but I'm meant to be evil for liking that, I'm not going out calling for the death of minorities or worshipping pedophiles, I just want to live a happy life with a husband while also being into bloodplay with him, just fucking hell man, porn is just an excuse for censorship.

That was probably a lot desu.

>>81946199
Censorship is left wing.

>>81946199
>>81946228
Both parties censor for different reasons that are usually portrayed as trying to be a good person

>>81946228
It's both and I hate it

>>81946262
Both parties are left wing. One is just tranny codded.

>>81942861
>>81942930
Porn in itself isn't the problem in itself as much as everything else that comes with being terminally online.
>watch porn and bikini pics on social media
>doomscroll male comments about how all women are whores, marriage is a scam, your children will hate you and you'll get ripped off all your money in divorce.
>doomscroll female comments about how much they spread their legs for men taller and richer than you, then demand a gentleman to wine and dine them afterwards.
>Realize you'll never land a hottie
>Realize whatever woman you land will be ran through by at least two digits of other men before you
>Get depressed
>Don't get laid
>Don't have children
It's a spiral of negativity.

>>81946680
>not shielded from reality
>not living in a deranged fantasy concocted by virgin adults who read a magic book
>come to the logical conclusion of living in a sick world

We need to face our reality and why it's harmful. Pretending it's not is just playing make-believe and forcing self delusion. Perhaps porn is a symptom of a sicker society, fine. Let's cure it rather than plugging our fingers in our ears and yelling, "Na na na! Everything's great! I can't hear you!".

Banning porn is taking the matchbook away from the arsonist. Yeah, he can't burn anything down right now, but he's far from fine, and it's just going to get worse as time goes on.

>>81946789
TRVKE as they say
>>81946680
>It's a spiral of negativity.
yeah but all that shit is true i didnt have a phone until i was 18 and i figured all this shit out by myself keep in mind i have subhuman iq

>>81942977
>because porn has been shown to be bad
Porn is a weapon used by zionist jews to weaken the men of a nation so that they're easier to control. Picrel, the zionist jews planned all of this a long time ago, but in the recent years, we woke up and started to notice the jew, and now their plans have been fully exposed.

Masturbation is detrimental to the health of men as it wastes an insane amount of the body's critically important vitamins and resources just to produce a fraction of sperm. I read somewhere that a single ejaculation requires the equivalent of eating 18 eggs to restore the nutrients that were used in the process, but I don't remember what book or article it was from.

>>81946680
That's implying if you never went online you wouldn't experience this anyway. Why exactly should you chase or pay for rare sex and families with women who have attachments to other men and a list of issues ensuring they'll never be or stay good partners? I wish it was all just lies to scam you out of kids and a loving wife but it's really not. We're in a much worse time for relationships.

>>81947621
Nofap and semen retention are memes because basically all the men who do it are just more pretentious and obnoxious normalfags. They're not making any insane inventions, they're not changing the state of the world and you hardly ever want to be around them. They have nothing good to show for not blowing their load for some random amount of time.

>>81942815 (OP)
Idiots in charge and their lobby groups have slowly started pushing the notion that porn is bad and a form of prostitution and that every woman involved is an abused trafficking victim under the insidious control of exploitative rapist men. Normalfags started seeing the shift and are repeating what they've been told. Baa.

>>81942815 (OP)
Its that self-improvement grifter crap thats telling everyone what to like and not to

>>81942815 (OP)
you are subhuman, you don't even realize that the brain of yours is defective true npc

>>81942815 (OP)
I hope you will provide your ID to pornhub to verify your age

>>81942815 (OP)
It's a reflection of the culture shift towards right wing fascism

>>81942815 (OP)
Everyone is a retarded control freak and thinks they need to ban harmless actions. Literally all consensual action between 1 or more adults should be fully legal. Anyone who says otherwise is a tyrant.

>>81948227
you are so dumb don't vote

>>81948265
Great counterargument. Why shouldn't people be free to do what they want so long as what they want is mutually consensual among those involved?

>>81945243
the only thing Mr. Ted Bundy got wrong was that porn is only another symptom of the problem, not the root cause.

>recent trend on the Internet
you mean social media? yeah, it's full of girls and incels in denial.

>>81942815 (OP)
Because the more things you can hold over peoples' head the easier they are to control. Especially if it's something blackmailable that everyone has consumed in the past instant guilty feelings. This your first culture wars rugpull?

>>81942815 (OP)
>When I was growing up we used to have a saying: "The Internet Is For Porn."
>We
People who weren't on the internet acquired access to the internet. What you remember as (culturally) The Internet is almost dead. You're a minority online too, because normies are here too.

>>81942815 (OP)
I'm pretty sure it's because I like it, if I hated it and wanted it banned it would be plastered on billboards.

>>81942815 (OP)
Women either see a man they want to fuck or some lesser being who shouldn't even be allowed to know sex exists. We are the latter.

>>81946680
>Realize you'll never land a hottie
>Realize whatever woman you land will be ran through by at least two digits of other men before you
>Get depressed
>Don't get laid
>Don't have children
You'll never believe me but I figured all this out long before /r9k/ and TikTok.

>>81946680
They don't plan to ban adultery you know.

>>81942861
If anything I would be less inclined to pursue women without porn. It just reminds me everyday the real thing is possible. Especially when I get into more erotica type stuff that has a plot. I mean if you just removed all porn from my life, I'd just be gaming with that time instead or something equally non reproductive.

High speed internet porn can be habit forming like gambling or doing drugs

Its not a "silly and enjoyable to collect a lot of it". Thats autistic obessesive behaviour and youre likely pornsick

>>81951607
Drugs and gambling should also be fully legal though.

>>81942930
So the problem is it decreases your simp collection, got it.

>>81942815 (OP)
There has been a lot of information coming out recently about porn. Between the proliferation of onlyfans through genuinely neurotic "models" and their predatory exploitation of vulnerable and lonely dudes parasociality, ex-pornstars writing tell-all books and having podcasts and such where they spill the tea about things behind the scenes, which again are often damaging and predatory in both physical and psychological ways, plus the psychological studies that have been done on the longterm effects of prolonged porn consumption(turns out it seriously fucks with your brain and your ability to form certain social and romantic connections, especially if you're a full-on gooner), it's become quite clear to a lot of people that porn is, in the greater picture, generally bad for both performers and consumers.

Personally, I've just gotten bored of the homogenized nature of it. The actresses have begun looking like the same generic six or seven templates, the racial fetishization has become odious and repulsive, every video has the same ten or fifteen setups, it just feels mechanical. Stuff pre 2010 is genuinely better, be it because of how people seemed to actually be having fun or because there was some actual effort involved. On the other hand, I do like reading the occasional hentai or original erotic story, and I do sometimes enjoy a bit of rule 34 content if it's well made. But other than that, porn just genuinely isn't interesting anymore. On top of that it's truly unhealthy, so yeah, people are going to shame you for it.

>>81951607
gambling addiction means losing all your money, drug addictions destroy your body. Porn "addictions" mean what, you have to wait a bit to cum again? They're objectively harmless barring getting into weird fetish shit

Free and open society is a white trait.

As society becomes less white you get more of this shame based stuff. Like muslims shaming porn but then getting gangbanged wearing high heels in a wig when no one is looking.

>>81942815 (OP)
Lol at this gay millennial having a crisis of meaning after criticism of his nasty sex fetish creep into his peripheral vision for the first time of his life

>cmon guys i thought dude weed porn bro!

>It makes me think I should regret the time I spent watching porn on here when in all honesty I considered it as fun as it was arousing. Porn is kind of silly and it's enjoyable to collect a lot of it
This is the most NPC brained thing ever written. You would shovel gravel if the majority of the posts on your computer screen said it was fun

>>81942815 (OP)
Most of the most vocal anti-gooners are porn addicts themselves, but lack the self-control to stop watching it themselves. Hence why most of them demand the government step in and ban access to porn, because they need big daddy government to force them to go cold turkey.

>>81952459
You can control the libido as if with an on/off switch by practicing fasting. Nobody knows about fasting anymore and it's not a common practice so guys genuinely have no idea of the medical aspect of chastity. It's also why NoFap is such a joke. It just ends up being a stress test to the willpower, which is finite anyway, and so it's unreasonable to the start.

Guys are in a constant state of digestion of heavy shit like protein and fat. Constantly digesting. Most guys have forgotten what a hunger pang feels like, if they've ever felt one. It's natural to get horny after a feast, on a honeymoon, etc. If you're not Christian, read the New Testament and pretend it's a secular mental health manual.

>>81942930
Shut the fuck up I watch the most depraved gooner bimbo porn, and still be able to get rock hard for a 4/10 cheap hooker, even when walking down the street some 30 year old bitch looks hot, literally a you problem.

>>81944763
Yea its aussie feminists demanding changes for Visa and Mastercard. Steam had to remove a shit ton of WEGs cause of it and the group is looking at scp and Detroit: Become Human
I mean yea its wegs who cares, but they're going after anything that has rape, incest or anything le bad even tho its games for adults lmao.

>>81951933
>On top of that it's truly unhealthy, so yeah, people are going to shame you for it
Relationships with women are more unhealthy but people still push them so why shame just porn? Just fake selective concern for what's best.

>>81952342
It's mostly white religious right winge freak who are the most anti-porn, retard.

>>81945920
Dont put TRVKES like this in here, 4chin is now shillhole hijacked by crishchian '''counterculture'''
The same hand pays money to pedo youtubers so they can '''deprave''' the same kids that are then herded as teens back into churches

>>81946228
Good lord what a shitload of copium

>>81942815 (OP)
Women can't stand the fact that men other than chad have sexual urges. They think it's misogyny that "chopped men" get to enjoy any form of sexuality, even something as shallow and unfulfilling as porn. The knowledge that somewhere out there, some "icky" guy is MASTURBATING TO A WOMAN enrages them. For this reason, they advocate for the banning of porn. The goal is to fully deny sexuality to men who aren't chad.

>>81952342
Japan's far more liberal on porn than the US right now. Yes, even with the dumb mosaics.

>>81942815 (OP)
because everyone became a puritan, picrel became reality

>>81952342
>Free and open society is a white trait.

>>81945513
why is this meme terrible? you just know all the redditors are whining about body shaming and how people need to mind their own business and that fat people can be healthy

>>81946228
this is how I know you're young because you weren't around for the Christian conservatives censoring everything under the sun in the 90s-00s

>>81947789
this, all the successful dudes (financially, socially, etc) are constantly fucking bitches, they haven't had full balls since they entered puberty. masturbating is literally just simulating the motions of sex, so believing nofap works would also be believing abstinence works

>>81942977
>looking at pictures of genitals is as bad as inhaling smoke laced with poison and carcinogens
Please kill yourself.

>>81942815 (OP)
I don't care what you like, stop being an obnoxious cunt.
>internet is for porn
Wrong. The saying was that internet is for cats, etc, and the rest is all porn. Since like forever. Since before the http in 1989. Certainly before you were born you disgusting newfag.
Tl;Dr Wanna watch porn forever? Fine just stop bothering the rest of humanity with your bs.

>>81952165
99% of people who say they have, or have recovered from porn "addictions" qualify just watching porn itself as an addiction, even if you're like cranking 5 minutes a day to tits that's too much. a lot of them are religious and see masturbation as a horrible sin

it's far-right pathology. simple as

obviously wasting a lot of time watching porn instead of doing productive things isn't great but the same is true for smoking weed or watching TV or even in many cases listening to music if you do it for too long and do it every day

>>81953805
porn addiction is very real but most people identifying as having a porn addiction are addicted to porn in exactly the same way as most in this thread are afflicted with a 4chan addiction

some addictions are really bad and some are fine and some are kind of bad. it's a term used to score feelings points. some probably have it severe and compulsive enough that help could be good but it's rare

>>81953854
>porn addiction is very real
that's why I said 99%, like I acknowledge that there's the 1% or so that spend thousands of dollars on onlyfans or goon for 16 hours straight everyday, but people like that are a tiny minority
I grew up in a very religious environment (and hate religion as a result) and the qualifier for "porn addiction" was basically just consuming it altogether, we had guys sobbing in front of the church just admitting that they watch porn or that gawd freed them from it

>>81953831
>it's far-right pathology
One thing I love about this is that Christian morality is so dominant even in our culture where actual religious people basically don't exist anymore, that even the misandrist radfems that advocate all men being killed are still using Christian puritan arguments and logic

Its just normalfags trying to play holier than thou. Nothing new.

>>81942815 (OP)
>porn is gross and you're a disgusting gooner if you watch it and you're literally objectifying women
>but also support sex workers
don't listen to these people

>>81953916
yep this. also OP, the people that were around on the internet 20 years ago saying " the internet is for porn" weren't normies, this was back then when people like us were the only ones actually online and not just using it to send work emails

>>81953956
Shut the fuck up, retarded newnormalfag. You never belonged and you never will.
>muh 20 years ago
So 2005. When people used smartphones to watch videos downloaded off YouTube. Fukken retard.

>>81954547
>2005
>smartphones
>anyone else is the retard

>>81942815 (OP)
Normies and kikes think if they try shaming people jackin it then maybe just maybe they'll bite the bullet and step up for some used goods whore. Its laughable even normies know its futile.

>>81942815 (OP)
>"The Internet Is For Porn."
That saying is old enough to buy beer anon. When it was a thing it was teenagers and old that never had access to easy porn as a kid. The last twenty years had the easiest access to the shit so they don't enjoy it. Think of it like having a sugary food for the first time n your life at 18yo vs being fed sugar non stop from 5yo onward, that kid is going to hate sugar when he's older and/or be a mess of a human for consuoming so much of it.

>>81952342
No ridiculous draconian laws is a white trait. Theres more porn freedom in third worlds,just look at the UK.