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Anonymous No.81954883 [Report] >>81954907 >>81954977 >>81955059 >>81955062 >>81955218 >>81955594 >>81955699 >>81955784 >>81955809 >>81955880 >>81956175
Autism is truly a curse fuck anyone who says it's a superpower. I don't think I can cope much longer. I've reached a point where the feeling of loneliness is so strong I don't get joy from doing anything. I thought since I've been lonely all my life I'd be fine but that's really not the case, I can't bear this much longer.
Anonymous No.81954907 [Report] >>81954923
>>81954883 (OP)
Its a "superpower" if you not only figure out what your special interest is but it also happens to be something normgroid cattle will pay for. Which is like 0.001% of autists
Anonymous No.81954912 [Report]
If you can't cope, minecraft yourself. Autism isn't real
Anonymous No.81954923 [Report] >>81954942 >>81955007 >>81955630
>>81954907
Yeah, and the idea autists are more intelligent is a myth, they have the same distribution of intelligence as normal people which is to say you have to be above average as an autist to even have a fighting chance.
Anonymous No.81954942 [Report] >>81955007
>>81954923
>the idea autists are more intelligent is a myth
and it's only talking about high functioning autists, not those low functioning tards that can't even talk and need a caregiver their entire life
Anonymous No.81954977 [Report] >>81954988
>>81954883 (OP)
>I've reached a point where the feeling of loneliness is so strong I don't get joy from doing anything
im pretty confident thats depression rather than your autism anon, but yeah i can relate its hell.
Anonymous No.81954988 [Report]
>>81954977
Yeah, but I meant that the loneliness caused by autism is fueling my depression.
Anonymous No.81955007 [Report] >>81955039 >>81955100
>>81954942
>>81954923
For some reason the psychologist boards decided to merge aspergers(slightly higher than average IQ but special interest oriented) with autism(slightly above downsyndrome). To this day it doesnt make sense, the only similarity between them is impacted social abilities, yet still theyre easily distinguishable
Anonymous No.81955039 [Report] >>81955100
>>81955007
you should never tell normies you have autism (especially not to old folks), because they automatically lump you in with the low functioning 70 iq tards. my parents refused to even hear that something was wrong with me because "well this woman from our church's kid has autism and she can't talk, so you're normal"
Anonymous No.81955059 [Report] >>81955079 >>81955100
>>81954883 (OP)
Define this "autism" you have.
I bet you that you don't even have it. You're just LARPing as an aspie because it gives you an easy way out.
Anonymous No.81955062 [Report] >>81955100
>>81954883 (OP)
>most troons are autistic
>autists are always too agressive or too passive
>autistic people are easily manipulated and used as pawns
autists are dangerous
Anonymous No.81955066 [Report] >>81955100
I wish I had an autistic gf. They're so childish
Anonymous No.81955079 [Report] >>81955761
>>81955059
>because it gives you an easy way out.
And what's wrong with that? I'm not pulling myself up by my boostraps, boomer
Anonymous No.81955098 [Report] >>81955125
I sure am glad im antisocial and never feel lonely
cant imagine actually wanting to endlessly yap like a fucking loser to someone over literally nothing
Anonymous No.81955100 [Report] >>81955153 >>81955761
>>81955007
I've read that the IQ for those with aspergers still is average, but I could be wrong.
>>81955039
Yeah I always avoid that, but sometimes I wonder if I should because the result is being just weird enough to make people feel justified being hostile.
>>81955059
Yeah I do love larping as a lifelong loner, all part of the act.
>>81955062
You're being bad faith but yeah, the "autism makes you immune to propaganda" is an obvious lie
>>81955066
I'm a guy unfortunately
Anonymous No.81955125 [Report] >>81955341
>>81955098
Needing less socializing doesn't mean you want it 24/7 though, or that you don't need it at all.
Anonymous No.81955153 [Report]
>>81955100
>I'm a guy unfortunately
I'd still date you.
Anonymous No.81955218 [Report] >>81955261
>>81954883 (OP)
Are you sure that you are autistic?
I never had a strong neet to connect with others, are just have low social skills and depression.
Anonymous No.81955261 [Report] >>81955279
>>81955218
Yeah, very sure. It's not that my baseline need for connection is very high, it's that I don't get any of it at all and haven't for my entire life.
Anonymous No.81955279 [Report]
>>81955261
Aw poor you, I wish I could hold you in my arms and give you kisses.
Anonymous No.81955341 [Report] >>81955373
>>81955125
you write like a dumbass trying to sound smart
Anonymous No.81955373 [Report]
>>81955341
How am I trying to sound smart?
Anonymous No.81955594 [Report] >>81955720
>>81954883 (OP)
Autism is the thing that ruined my life more than anything else, this diagnosis has been like a dark cloud over my head since I was in high school because the "spectrum" bullshit meant I got to be lumped in with a bunch of fucking freaks. There is nothing else that makes me want to die as much because autism is the "get fucked lmao" mental illness because there's no cure or treatment at all, it's something that you're forced to live with until you fucking die while normies feed you half-hearted PC narratives about it's actually not a disease and it's actually just a special thing that makes you different (which is why we're never going to ever cure it!). I will never get to experience what life would be like without the filter of this mental disorder over everything, it makes every single thing louder and brighter with no way of turning the settings down. I will never be able to intrinsically understand social cues and the way that normies look at each other the same way they can. I will never be able to force myself to care about things that are actually important and not this "special interest" bullshit. I have been drained of everything that once made me feel enriched in any capacity and now every single thing is just draining because I get to still have the intense sensory demands and hyper-focus/ability to retain every memory but with none of the serotonin that is supposed to come with it. I have been lonely all my life and it's only my fault because I decided as a retarded little boy that I'd rather be off chasing the the dopamine hits of my "special interests" rather than learning how to make friends and all it did was set me back by putting up walls around myself that I can't breach because it feels like tearing my skin off. I have learned to live with the loneliness, it's something that only bothers me every now and then like a hunger pang. I still fucking hate this disease and no method of killing it would be too extreme.
Anonymous No.81955630 [Report]
>>81954923
Normies watched Rain Man and Big Bang Theory and collectively decided that autism was a superpower that made autists mysterious rather than a sensory-processing disorder.
Anonymous No.81955699 [Report] >>81955709 >>81955725 >>81956098
>>81954883 (OP)
No autist would prefer to be normie goycattle, even with the advantages that come with that. Go back to /soc/ retard.
Anonymous No.81955709 [Report]
>>81955699
This is what someone not actually autistic would say, you don't know the suffering.
Anonymous No.81955720 [Report]
>>81955594
I can't believe I'm gonna be stuck like this for my entire life.
Anonymous No.81955725 [Report]
>>81955699
This was my position prior to the crippling loneliness starting to take a toll.
Anonymous No.81955761 [Report] >>81955776 >>81955779
>>81955079
What's wrong with making your life worse?
I think that's pretty self explanitory.
>I won't pull myself up!
>But I'll gladly pull myself down as a "fuck you" to you
I think that's what they call "cutting your nose off to spite your face".
>>81955100
>Yeah I do love larping as a lifelong loner
What, you think the ONLY people that are loners are aspies? Is that your definition of autism, and it's not possible for normal people to be loners?
Shallow perspective.
Anonymous No.81955776 [Report] >>81955799
>>81955761
I didn't say that, it was you saying it was an "easy way out" which is ridiculous because I'd never choose this life.
Anonymous No.81955779 [Report] >>81955799
>>81955761
Loners are per definition not normal
Anonymous No.81955784 [Report] >>81955820
>>81954883 (OP)
I don't get the faggots on here that say "want autism gf/bf"
In class I'd watch the lesser autists recoil and freeze out the turbo autists.
Anonymous No.81955799 [Report] >>81955822 >>81955843
>>81955776
You did say that, that's the thing. The easy way out is making your life worse. It's very, very easy to make things worse. It's hard to make things better.
>>81955779
That's not true at all.
Anonymous No.81955809 [Report]
>>81954883 (OP)
imagine being one of the cringe lonely autists instead of the based schizoid autists
Anonymous No.81955820 [Report] >>81955837
>>81955784
Autistic people like things like toys and watching kids cartoons, a lot of them are innocent, I want one, it's that simple
Anonymous No.81955822 [Report] >>81955844
>>81955799
It's absolutely true, if you thinks it's not then you don't know what normal means.
Anonymous No.81955837 [Report]
>>81955820
cryptopedo
have fun taking care of your adult toddler, faggot
Anonymous No.81955843 [Report] >>81955862
>>81955799
I said I'm autistic and suffer because of it, you say I'm actually not and am actively choosing this life. Why would I choose this life?
Anonymous No.81955844 [Report] >>81955863
>>81955822
There's plenty of normal people who are loners. If you're saying all people who are loners are not normal, YOU don't know what normal means.
Normal people have problems too. Normal people have anxiety, depression, or other ailments that would lead them to being loners. And there's normal people who just prefer to be alone.
Anonymous No.81955862 [Report] >>81955879 >>81956583
>>81955843
>Why would I choose this life?
Because it's easy. We've been over that.
Better question for you:
If you don't want things like this, why don't you change it and make it something you do want?
Anonymous No.81955863 [Report] >>81955876 >>81955943
>>81955844
You're different kinds of normality, you can have problems and be normal, when you become a loner you're no longer normal.
Anonymous No.81955876 [Report]
>>81955863
conflating*
Anonymous No.81955879 [Report] >>81955943
>>81955862
Are you stupid? This is like telling a man in a wheelchair he's taking the easy way out for not being a long distance runner. You have no idea if he tried his best or not, but the fact is he's in a wheelchair.
Anonymous No.81955880 [Report]
>>81954883 (OP)
hey bro i can become your friend if you want
Anonymous No.81955943 [Report] >>81955965 >>81955999 >>81956085 >>81956183
>>81955863
There is not multiple types of normal. There's one normal, and it's normal. Average. The 66% of the population on the bell curve. And within that bell curve, exists loners. Though, some loners exist outside of that and are different.
You're the one conflating definitions. You're actively conflating not normal and loner.

I'll ask you this, what is the definition of normal that you're using?
>>81955879
That's not at all what is being said, and nice dodge of the question. You're not incapable of social interaction, and you're not incapable of existing in society, you're not incapable of making changes to yourself.
You're just avoiding it because it makes you anxious.

It is, however, like telling a man in a wheelchair who refuses to go out into the world and accomplish things because he's in a wheelchair. And uses that wheelchair as an excuse to actively make his life worse, sit around his house and gain a ton of weight while being depressed and longing for more in life. But never making the attempt because his entire identity has been consumed by the fact that he's in a wheelchair.

Also, bad example for your perspective. I'm literally in a wheelchair as a result of a birth defect.
Anonymous No.81955965 [Report] >>81956056
>>81955943
Average of what? Which metric are you using to determine the average? You're making it painfully obvious you've got no idea what the terms you're using even mean.
Anonymous No.81955999 [Report] >>81956056
>>81955943
True loners do not fall within few-enough standard deviations of the mean on the bell curve to be considered non-disordered. This is the general methodology they use to define disorders, in this case the loner has SPD
Anonymous No.81956056 [Report] >>81956082
>>81955965
Average of people..?
A bell curve... Do you not know how a standard distribution works within a population? It's the same way we determine that it's normal to have 2 arms, 2 eyes, a nose, a tongue, etc.
>You're making it painfully obvious you've got no idea what the terms you're using even mean.
You're a woefully sad soul. I know what the term means, I don't know how you're using it though. Which should have been made obvious when I asked you what you mean by the term.
>>81955999
Nice no true Scotsman fallacy.
>considered non-disordered
Normal people have disorders. Having a disorder does not make you not-normal. Why are you trying so vehemently to separate yourself from being normal?
Anonymous No.81956082 [Report] >>81956163
>>81956056
You're a fucking retard, but ok. Let's the the average number of people in someone's social circle. Where would loners fall on that scale?
Martin_Banos !!vK069ykpMeh No.81956084 [Report]
When are you guys committing suicide? I won't because I'm a religious person, but my fellow spergs tend to die at the young age of 36.

What is going to be your method?
Anonymous No.81956085 [Report] >>81956163
>>81955943
Not a bad example at all, it just makes it even more confusing how you can't understand something that simple since it's your daily life. Do you not understand the brain is a physical organ and can be disabled too?
>It is, however, like telling a man in a wheelchair who refuses to go out into the world and accomplish things
This is actually the bad example. If autism means you have a brain literally wired to struggle with socializing making loneliness involuntary, then responding with an example about "refusing to accomplish things" is missing the point since the focus no longer is on what the disability objectively hinders you from but some vague sense of "trying anything in life at all".
Anonymous No.81956098 [Report]
>>81955699
I'd give anything to just be a normal person.
Anonymous No.81956163 [Report] >>81956181 >>81956253
>>81956082
A social circle isn't a person, and therefore cannot be "a normal person".
Nice ad hominem fallacy.
Your supply of (you)s will cease.
>>81956085
>Do you not understand the brain is a physical organ and can be disabled too?
Of course I know this. Do you know that I've lived with mentally disabled people in assisted living? Of course you wouldn't know that. Do you know that I've seen people with fairly severe mental disabilities live relatively normal lives? Of course you wouldn't know that either.
>If autism means you have a brain literally wired to struggle
You've caught yourself in your own trap. And it all hinges on the word struggle.
>making loneliness involuntary
It's not involuntary. It's an active, conscious choice you are making to take the easy way and avoid the struggle. Autism does not make you incapable of [insert social things]. It just doesn't. You want proof of this?
This conversation, you're doing a social thing RIGHT NOW. So you've proven that you're not incapable.

All this time you're saying "I can't do this, I can't do that" but you've given no reason as to why other than "I'm autistic". That's an excuse. Not a reason. It's merely your identity. You identify as a person who cannot do specific things. You are the one holding yourself back, for whatever reason.
Anonymous No.81956175 [Report]
>>81954883 (OP)
Same. Unable to work, and deal with normies constantly. Unable to get a non-escort woman to fuck.
The only way I can tolerate this miserable fucking existence is to be a hermit. But I still want to have sex. It's a torment.
Anonymous No.81956181 [Report]
>>81956163
So by 'normal' you were talking about purely physical characteristics? Lol, you really are some kind of a retard.
Anonymous No.81956183 [Report] >>81956331 >>81956379
>>81955943
>You're not incapable of social interaction
Depending on how well I'm coping with stress, I can fake being a normal person okay, it's just extremely draining. If I'm not coping well, then I can barely speak. I can't really answer questions beyond simple yes or no things. I stop wanting to speak at all because nothing comes into my head for me to say. I wouldn't really define this as capable of social interaction because I can't manage it consistently.
>not incapable of existing in society
I am managing to hold onto a shitty part time warehouse job where I work 20 hours a week. This is about as good as it gets for me. I've had other jobs that I've held for months at a time but I can't really handle working full time. It's too overwhelming for me. I always end up shutting down at some point.
>incapable of making changes to yourself
You can't fix being autistic. It's a brain disorder. Why don't you just fix your legs?
Anonymous No.81956253 [Report] >>81956375
>>81956163
>It's not involuntary. It's an active, conscious choice you are making to take the easy way and avoid the struggle
You're assuming I haven't tried before.
>That's an excuse. Not a reason. It's merely your identity. You identify as a person who cannot do specific things. You are the one holding yourself back, for whatever reason.
Do you think it'd be fair for someone to say you're making excuses if you say you can't run?
>"I can see you have legs just run"
is similar to you going
>"This conversation, you're doing a social thing RIGHT NOW. So you've proven that you're not incapable."
An imageboard conversation is not comparable to real life socialization where body language, social cues and other complexities play a major role, having the ability to talk isn't enough just like just having legs doesn't guarantee being able to run.
Anonymous No.81956331 [Report] >>81956900
>>81956183
What you're describing doesn't really sound like autism. When I lived in assisted living, I would talk to the aspies there all the time because they're fun to talk to once they warm up to you. And I've never, ever heard any of them say that nothing comes to mind. Even the ones who are very non verbal. It's not that they don't have words in their head, it's just that they don't talk.
Do you have some cognitive impairment? Maybe. But I seriously doubt it's autism. It sounds much, MUCH, more like you were raised in a super chaotic environment as a child with a lot of stress, which lead you to picking up the coping mechanism of tuning out. Which means you tune out EVERYTHING, even your own brain. Then on top of that you stacked another debuff of social anxiety.
That's just my two cents.
>I wouldn't really define this as capable of social interaction because I can't manage it consistently.
Here's a huge flaw in your perspective. You very clearly have the ability to do it. It's just difficult. Which means it's easy to give up. Nothing comes to mind immediately in a conversation? Oh, just give up.
>Why don't you just fix your legs?
Because there doesn't exist a surgery by which they reconstruct and reconnect the nerves in the spine to regain control of paralyzed limbs.
But there does exist cognitive restructuring. You can train and/or retrain your brain.

Also, if you pay attention, I didn't say, to analogize, "fix your paralyzed legs". I said "make changes to yourself". There's a difference there, which you're intentionally not grasping. You're not stupid.
Anonymous No.81956375 [Report] >>81956597
>>81956253
>You're assuming I haven't tried before.
No, it's the opposite. I'm assuming you DID try, and that it was difficult, and thus you gave up.
>Do you think it'd be fair for someone to say you're making excuses if you say you can't run?
It would be fair to say that if they were merely making the excuse that they can't run, even though they were capable of running, and had previously ran. Yes.
That is to say, you've ran before. Stop painting yourself as someone who is incapable of doing things. You aren't paralyzed, except by your own fears and self perceptions.
>is similar to you going
No, it's more like "I can see you walking right now, so stop lying and saying that you are incapable of running. Sure, maybe it's a bit more difficult, but, clearly, you're capable. So. Stop. Lying."
Anonymous No.81956377 [Report] >>81956576
People that feel the need to give out advice always give out the most insidiously generic advice.
Martin_Banos !!vK069ykpMeh No.81956379 [Report]
>>81956183
>I stop wanting to speak at all because nothing comes into my head for me to say
Brother this is exactly what happens to me and I have an official diagnosis for autism. Don't let that normie gaslight you into thinking your parents abused you or some dumb shit like that. You are autistic.
Anonymous No.81956403 [Report] >>81956431 >>81956439 >>81956610 >>81956666 >>81956891
Have any of you autimos ever tried shutting the fuck up and just getting on with life? Play the cards you're dealt?
You all sit around here jerking each other off about your special mental retardation like someone is just going to wave a wand and its all fixed

no? Just fucking bitch and moan constantly about how everyone is a cunt for not putting up all the timid scared indecisive bullshit?
Anonymous No.81956431 [Report]
>>81956403
how does this effect you personally?
Anonymous No.81956439 [Report]
>>81956403
Oh wow how unexpected
A stupid fucknig frogposter
Anonymous No.81956575 [Report] >>81956621 >>81956666
Downies have it 100x worse and they are the happiest people you will ever see

You lot are just miserable boring fuckers with 0 personality so you latch onto some very vague illness that might be a problem sometimes (working) but other times it ok (sitting around doing fuck all)
Anonymous No.81956576 [Report] >>81956585
>>81956377
It's not even that it's generic, it's that it isn't the solution.
It's like you're asking "what is the answer to 2+2=?" You want someone to say "2+2=4" and the people giving you advice are telling you how to find the answer. And you don't like that.
You want other people to solve your problems for you. you don't want to do the work yourself. You don't want to find anything yourself.
you want everything handed to you ona silver platter because oyu're just a spoiled brat.
Anonymous No.81956583 [Report] >>81956611
>>81955862
>Sensory issues.
>Loneliness.
>Higher suicide rates.
>Higher rates of unemployment.
>Lower life expectancy.
>More likely to be bullied/ostracized/rejected.
>A unique type of burnout where the brain's ability to function literally shuts down and takes weeks/months/years to recover.
There is nothing easy about autism you fucking normnigger.
Anonymous No.81956585 [Report] >>81956625
>>81956576
Not just answering 4 is incredibly insidious, thanks for proving my point.
Anonymous No.81956597 [Report] >>81956772
>>81956375
>I'm assuming you DID try, and that it was difficult, and thus you gave up.
At what point are you willing to concede a person has the right to give up? Never? Even if nothing ever changes?
>It would be fair to say that if they were merely making the excuse that they can't run, even though they were capable of running, and had previously ran.
Now you're describing a different situation than your own? Your legs don't function so you can't run which means claiming you can't run isn't an excuse. I don't think you're a bad person, but it's cruel to moralize the effects a disability has on you. It's like someone saying the reason you can't walk is your fault because you still haven't tried enough different physical therapies, even if the disability is in reality impossible to fix.
>No, it's more like "I can see you walking right now, so stop lying and saying that you are incapable of running. Sure, maybe it's a bit more difficult, but, clearly, you're capable. So. Stop. Lying."
The equivalent to socializing being...? On on imageboard you're anonymous, there's no body language, there are no real relationships being formed, you can pretend you're someone you're not, etc the list goes on. If someone has lived a life of loneliness despite all their efforts, then that experience is by far more representative of their actual ability socialize.
Anonymous No.81956610 [Report]
>>81956403
>timid scared indecisive bullshit?
sounds more like severe social anxiety than autism.
Anonymous No.81956611 [Report] >>81956932 >>81956995 >>81957162
>>81956583
>>Loneliness.
>>Higher suicide rates.
>>Higher rates of unemployment.
>>Lower life expectancy.
>>More likely to be bullied/ostracized/rejected.

This is just men anon, we all deal with all this shit constantly
>A unique type of burn out that takes years to recover from
Shut up anon lmao
Anonymous No.81956621 [Report]
>>81956575
>Bohoo I hate autists so much that's why I deliberately go on the website with autists
Anonymous No.81956625 [Report] >>81956635
>>81956585
>Telling me how to solve my own problems is super insidious!
>Be like my mommy and solve everything for me!
>Waaaah!
Anonymous No.81956635 [Report] >>81956681
>>81956625
See how insidious you're being right now?
Anonymous No.81956666 [Report] >>81956691
>>81956575
>>81956403
I knew a guy who went undiagnosed for most of his life and he just kinda kept on trucking.
Sometimes I asked him if he was sure he wasn't autistic but he was adamant that since he wasn't diagnosed the one time he went to a psych or whatever when he was young, he didn't have it and there wasn't a point in double checking.
Relatively recently he finally did get diagnosed and it hasn't really phased him because he's been living under the belief he was normal most of his life.
Anonymous No.81956681 [Report]
>>81956635
It's pointless to argue with him, his worldview is so fragile he has to defend his just world fallacy just to stay sane. He's really arguing with himself.
Martin_Banos !!vK069ykpMeh No.81956691 [Report] >>81956706
>>81956666
yeah I know this Pakistani clown, he's 5'4 and he bangs a new supermodel every week
Anonymous No.81956706 [Report]
>>81956691
Idk who you're talking about. I don't know anybody who's brown like that.
Anonymous No.81956772 [Report] >>81956840 >>81956851 >>81956898
>>81956597
>has the right to give up?
You have the right to give up, but, here's the kicker. Rights come with responsibilities. If you want to give up, you have to burden the responsibility of the consequences that come with that.
Which means you lose the right to bitch about the fact that you lose out on the benefits that come from not giving up.
>Now you're describing a different situation than your own?
I was never describing my own situation, apart from the one sentence where I said "I'm disabled". It was simply a metaphor to extrapolate the abstract concepts of the psychological difficulties with a physical example.
Clearly, you CAN engage in social interaction. Because you're doing it right now. Which is to say, you can walk.
If you can walk, you can run.
Running is equal to social interaction "in the real world".
It might be difficult to do, but you CAN.
That's the point.
>The equivalent to socializing being...?
What? This is socializing. This is social media. You are socializing. You are interacting with other human beings (presumably). There might be less stimulus, but it's still social interaction. See metaphor above.
Anonymous No.81956776 [Report] >>81957162
autism is atrocious because you have normie feelings but can't do shit with or about them.
Anonymous No.81956796 [Report] >>81956823
>LARPing as an aspie is atrocious because you're really a normie but you just can't cope with the fact that you're a normie and it makes you screeeeeeeeeeeeee in rebellion
Anonymous No.81956823 [Report]
>>81956796
almost everybody with autism has sexual feelings but cannot deal with them.
Anonymous No.81956840 [Report] >>81956888
>>81956772
What do I do when my mind goes blank?
Anonymous No.81956851 [Report] >>81956888
>>81956772
>still social interaction
Being able to sit down for 20 minutes and right out a post, isn't the same as being able to come up with something on the fly like you have to do in a regular conversation. You just don't get it.
Anonymous No.81956866 [Report]
desu, I think sometimes plain intelligent people get mistaken for autistic people, because a lifetime of failing to interact with people around you, and getting bullied for being different, will make you kind of autistic.
Anonymous No.81956888 [Report] >>81956903 >>81956912 >>81956923
>>81956840
Personally, I just do nothing when my mind goes blank. Or, if I'm in the middle of a conversation with someone, I'll say "I don't have anything to say to that" or something to that extend as a courtesy so they know I'm not ignoring them.
But, I'm not going to tell you what to do. That's just me.
>>81956851
You don't get it. It IS the same thing, just at a slower pace.
Anonymous No.81956891 [Report]
>>81956403
"the cards I was dealt" is not understanding anything normies are doing, and being scared of most things.
i genuinely don't know what you want me to do. Life has taught me that being myself will make people angry.
Anonymous No.81956898 [Report] >>81957149
>>81956772
>you lose the right to bitch about the fact that you lose out on the benefits that come from not giving up.
The benefits being? The "possibility" that things get better? You can say that for almost any affliction. You too could in theory miraculously gain the ability to walk, does that mean you lose the right to give up a career in marathon running preemptively if that's something you wanted?
>This is socializing. This is social media. You are socializing. You are interacting with other human beings (presumably). There might be less stimulus, but it's still social interaction. See metaphor above.
Idk how many times I have to repeat this but this is really not anything like socializing in real life. Does playing Call of Duty mean you have the skills to become a real life soldier? You specifically probably can play COD but there's no way you'd be in the military.
Anonymous No.81956900 [Report] >>81957149
>>81956331
>clearly have the ability to do it
Yeah sure, an extremely limited ability that doesn't allow for any real social mobility. Like I've been trying to be a normal person for 28 years. I'm better than I've ever been and I'm still not anywhere close to being a normal person. You really have no idea what you're talking about.
>cognitive restructuring. You can train and/or retrain your brain.
This is so fucking stupid. You can learn and unlearn habits. You can't completely restructure your brain. Are you saying that if someone has like schizophrenia or something that they're just not trying hard enough to be normal?
Anonymous No.81956903 [Report] >>81957196
>>81956888
How do I start after my mind has gone blank?
Anonymous No.81956912 [Report] >>81957196
>>81956888
it's not the same thing. Most socialization isn't debate. It's "vibes".
Anonymous No.81956923 [Report] >>81957196
>>81956888
>You don't get it. It IS the same thing, just at a slower pace
It's not the same thing in the slightest. I can't take 20 minutes to come up with a response to someone when I'm having a face to face conversation.
Anonymous No.81956932 [Report]
>>81956611
>Shut up anon lmao
Nah that shit is fucking real and it is horrific. You have no idea.
Anonymous No.81956995 [Report] >>81957162
>>81956611
It is not "just men". Normies intuitively know how to talk to each other, and how to get things like jobs.
Don't say they don't. They just do.
Anonymous No.81957149 [Report] >>81957184
>>81956898
>The benefits being?
You would know more of what those are than I would. The things that you want, which you are preventing yourself from getting, because you're giving up. I do not know what those are, you have not expressed them here. Outside of "not being lonely".
>does that mean you lose the right to give up a career in marathon running preemptively if that's something you wanted?
No, but the responsibility that I must bear grows even larger. In that case, it would be damn near a moral obligation to become a marathon runner. Because, through some act of God, I gained the ability to walk again.
To refuse that gift would be like spitting in the face of God. The repercussions of which, I would not be willing to face.
>Idk how many times I have to repeat this
It doesn't matter how many times you repeat it, it doesn't make it true.
>Does playing Call of Duty
This isn't a video game. This is not fake. This is a very real social interaction between two real people (presumably).
>>81956900
>limited ability
Limited ability is still ability. That's the point. If you have limited ability, you can have some social mobility. Maybe not a lot. But the possibility still exists.
>You can't completely restructure your brain.
Yes, you literally can. You can completely change the wiring of your brain. You can make yourself crazy, and you can unmake yourself crazy.
>they're just not trying hard enough to be normal?
No that's not how it works. It's all about changing your perspective, and the presuppositions upon which you base things. You don't force change. If you try and force yourself to be something or some way, what will happen is that your force will be met with an opposing force, and you will fail. And then you will say "this never works", and give up any possibility for change.
Anonymous No.81957162 [Report] >>81957173 >>81957664
Yeah I'd be wary of this kind of thread. It goes quite swiftly from being a vent/"I get you anon" thread to a fucking depression echo chamber.
Anywho's.

>>81956611
>This is just men
Nah g you full of it kek.

>>81956995
Also bs though.

>>81956776
How so? Legitimately interested. What do normies do with/about their feelings that you think you're incapable of doing?
Anonymous No.81957173 [Report]
>>81957162
Holding a conversation
Anonymous No.81957184 [Report] >>81957196
>>81957149
>completely change the wiring of your brain. You can make yourself crazy, and you can unmake yourself crazy.
Nevermind anon, you are actually just retarded or baiting or both. I'm out.
Anonymous No.81957196 [Report] >>81957204 >>81957297 >>81957679
>>81956903
I don't know how to answer that question, mostly because I'm not exactly sure what you're asking.
Start what?
>>81956923
You could totally do that. People do it all the time. Someone will say something, no one will respond, then 20, 30, 40, minutes, 2 hours later someone will respond to the thing everyone else forgot about.
It's totally fucking normal.
>>81956912
debate is a vibe.
>>81957184
Bye bye, close minded anon.
Anonymous No.81957204 [Report] >>81957234
>>81957196
Mind goes blank, it's silent. How do I make the silence go away?
Anonymous No.81957234 [Report] >>81957273
>>81957204
That's an extremely difficult question to answer, you know.
Why can't it just be silent?
Anonymous No.81957273 [Report] >>81957342
>>81957234
I wish it could, but she expects me to talk.
Anonymous No.81957297 [Report] >>81957342
>>81957196
>You could totally do that
It's not normal for someone to say something to you and you stay completely silent. What the fuck are you talking about?
Anonymous No.81957342 [Report] >>81957359 >>81957386
>>81957273
So, is it a problem of lacking creativity?
>>81957297
Yes, it actually is. It's actually very normal.
Anonymous No.81957359 [Report] >>81957491
>>81957342
In the moment, I don't know what to say, yes.
Anonymous No.81957386 [Report] >>81957491
>>81957342
>Yes, it actually is. It's actually very normal
I hate you, anon. You know how easy it is the bait autistic people yet you do it anyway. Very unsportsmanlike of you.
Anonymous No.81957491 [Report] >>81957515
>>81957359
Then, presumably, you have to train that creative aspect of your mind, and you have to tone down your habitual tuning out.
To train the creativity, just create new thoughts in a situation where there's no pressure.
To retrain your tuning out is a bit more difficult to explain. But, it mainly revolves around the idea of realizing when you're doing it, then correcting it.
>>81957386
Have you ever considered that I'm not baiting anyone, and that you're just really adverse to change and think that anyone who challenges your preconceptions is a troll?
Anonymous No.81957493 [Report]
i have been living in the fvcking STREET
Anonymous No.81957515 [Report] >>81957532
>>81957491
In what kind of a situation?
Anonymous No.81957532 [Report] >>81957549
>>81957515
In what kind of situation what?
Anonymous No.81957549 [Report] >>81957586
>>81957532
In what type of no pressure situations should I create new thoughts?
Anonymous No.81957586 [Report] >>81957604 >>81957607
>>81957549
Any. Doesn't matter. Do it right now if you want. Do it in the shower, do it while you eat. Don't matter at all.
Anyway, I'm out. Got stuff to get done. Have fun.
Anonymous No.81957604 [Report]
>>81957586
In that case, that's something I already do. And it hasn't really helped.
Anonymous No.81957607 [Report]
>>81957586
In short: bro is onto nothing.
Anonymous No.81957664 [Report] >>81957879
>>81957162
It's not bs. Normies will enter a room, immediately understand their place in the social hierarchy, and how to interact with everyone. I've seen them do it.
Anonymous No.81957679 [Report] >>81957693
>>81957196
Debate is not a vibe. Debate is a battle where you present facts and logic and try to beat out the other person. That is not socializing.
Socializing is knowing what to say when a woman is being fucking weird (like they always are), or how to be "one of the boys", instead of immediately singling yourself out as a target.
Anonymous No.81957693 [Report] >>81957699
>>81957679
idk why but you made me feel kinda hot lol
Anonymous No.81957699 [Report] >>81957879
>>81957693
I have no idea what you mean by that, because I have autism.
Anonymous No.81957879 [Report] >>81957967 >>81958485
>>81957664
Big dog I don't know what kind of room you entering but that social hierarchy thing does not apply. It's not that deep.
It would be fucked up to just disregard your perception, so I must ask:
>I've seen them do it.
What was the context?

>>81957699
Nah you're good that anon is just being random, it doesn't make sense.
Anonymous No.81957967 [Report]
>>81957879
Every time normies enter a new group, they're talking to people and making friends within about ten minutes. I'm just there kind of playing with my thumbs, trying not to get in the way.
Anonymous No.81958485 [Report]
>>81957879
>I don't know what kind of room you entering but that social hierarchy thing does not apply
Yeah, autists just tend to apply logic and structure to things that don't necessarily have any. What he's talking about is how some people vibe with others and fit in naturally while some people don't. Like say you take 10 people and put them in a room. Most of them will just naturally strike up conversation and form groups or pairs that get along well with each other. Doesn't really happen for autists.