So wait, what's the difference between someone being dominant and just being exploitative? Every sub/dom relationship I've ever interacted with is just the dom being a complete cunt and the sub goes "oh yeah it's kind of horrible but I cum so it's fine"
I've never seen a healthy relationship with mutual respect between these people, is it even possible?

>>81964310 (OP)
i wouldnt mind being a sub if the time ever came only if it meant the dom isnt a asshole and nice. . .

>>81964310 (OP)
yes the relationship between a dad and his daughter or a mother and his son

>>81964310 (OP)
>what's the difference between someone being dominant and just being exploitative?
If onlookers and the sub themselves find the dom physically attractive, then they're just a dom. If not, then they're a toxic user and narcissist.

>>81964310 (OP)
Consent. If you blackmail someone into doing sexual things they don't want to do, you traumatize that person and deserve prison time. If you blackmail someone who likes being blackmailed with their permission, you both get a good time.

>>81964310 (OP)
>I've never seen a healthy relationship with mutual respect between these people, is it even possible?
I guess so, I know a couple who looks to be like that. Don't know what they're like behind closed doors though. It's the kind of relationship I want but it does seem rare.

>>81964322
I uh, I don't think those are dom/sub relationships anon..

>>81964310 (OP)
>GF wants me to dominate her in the bedroom, I choke her and slap her and hatefuck her and throw her around
>Tends to walk all over me and is leans towards being an OCD controlling bitch outside the bedroom

Women are not right in the head lol

>>81964374
yes they are there's just no sex involved usually

>>81964310 (OP)
I mean the entire purpose of a sub/dom relationship is the lack of equality. They are NOT normal couples. They have a whole insignia for this idea. BDSM is all about playing with power dynamics and imbalances. The argument could be made that BDSM is inherently exploitative and what separates it from a flat-out abusive relationship is whether or not the one being exploited likes being exploited and has explicitly permitted the ways in which they are exploited.
The difference between a consensual BDSM sub/dom relationship and an abusive one is whether or not any mutually agreed upon boundaries are being violated.

>>81964402
If the foundation is exploitation and agreed-upon abuse, how can we be sure the consent itself isn't manipulated?

>>81964460
you don't - thats the fun part

>>81964460
We can't, but that applies to all relationships and not just BDSM-centered ones. All relationships have the potential to be abusive to some extent. The best we can do is supply resources and social safety nets for those looking to exit these relationships.