I want to troon out but I'm 30 so it's over for me
I wasted my life

natalie mars did it at 30

>>81968414
She did it at a time when the average age to troon was 30
I'd become an ogrehon and be more like chris chan than natalie

>>81968148 (OP)
Troon out?
Are you insane or dumb????

>>81968148 (OP)
what's the purpose of it? it's not like you'll actually become a woman. if you could actually become a woman then it might be a great idea. but i'd like to be 6ft tall and i can't be that.

>>81968491
just lose weight, get facial feminization surgery and learn makeup

>>81968148 (OP)
just do it anyway

its gonna hurt more to be in the closet then to just be a non perfect version of yourself

>>81968148 (OP)
>My life is wasted because I didn't troon out
I'll never understand you people here.

>>81968526
>Are you insane or dumb????
Both
>>81968537
>what's the purpose of it?
Mostly to cope with not being a woman and feeling like I'm taking more control of my life
And HRT prevents hair loss and makes you grow tits
>>81968538
I'd still be a mentally ill hon
>>81968569
>just do it anyway
I'm too scared
>>81968578
Replace trooning out with anything else. All desire is personal

>>81968601
>I'd still be a mentally ill hon
natalie mars isnt a hon

>>81968601
You have listened to women complain endlessly for 30 years about how much it sucks to have a vagina and the endless suffering it is to be a woman and your takeaway is that you want to be one? Is this self-harm?

>>81968601
>I'm too scared

yeah I understand that

fear of judgement from outselves and the communities we inhabit is very powerful

but at the end of the courage is being afriad and doing it anyway

don't feel like you have to be fearless to do something. When you can be courageous and get it done anyway.

>>81968765
Trying to convince anons to do this to themselves is just evil. OP is just aware enough to realize how retarded this would be to do and you just want to push him over the edge all for the sake of your fetish.

>>81968615
I'm not natalie mars
>>81968683
I've also listened to men complain endlessly about how easy women have it and women who are okay with being female so I don't know who to believe
>the endless suffering it is to be a woman
There are some really shitty parts about it and I would complain too if I were a woman kek
>>81968765
Its not something you just get done, it's the rest of your life

>>81968932
>I'm not natalie mars
you can either start trooning at 30 or wait and start trooning at 40
stop complaining fucking bitch

>>81968148 (OP)
I want to take estrogen. I'm not a troon though. I ordered estradiol enanthate (estrogen) and it should ship soon. So horny thinking about injecting it. Feeling my test get lower and lower as I get weaker and weaker until i'm a cute docile faggot who does not care about this clown world. In about a week I will be on E and castrated.

>>81968949
>you can either start trooning at 30 or wait and start trooning at 40
It sucks how there aren't any better options
>>81969000
>So horny thinking about injecting it.
That'll go away on E

>>81969029
>It sucks how there aren't any better options
sybau, neurotic ass troon mad that he cant timetravel

>>81969050
>neurotic ass troon mad that he cant timetravel
If I could timetravel I'd just turn into a cis woman instead

>>81969029
Good I want it to go away. I hope it kills my sex drive. I hate my homosexual thought's.

>>81969087
>I hate my homosexual thought's.
Some trannies say estrogen actually changes their sexuality. You might become more or less gay

>>81969130
Not possible for me to be more gay. I like men, so after estrogen I will be straight again and any man who fucks me is straight.

>>81969385
Oh so you're just HSTS

>>81969678
Idk what that is. I'm just a cis guy who will be on Estrogen soon.

>>81968932
>I've also listened to men complain endlessly about how easy women have it and women who are okay with being female so I don't know who to believe
Life is easier for a single man, and harder for single women from what I've seen and experienced. If the struggles of being single come from a lack of socialization/loneliness, I completely understand where you are coming from but I don't think this is the answer. Even the socialites exhibit loneliness.

Furthermore, by being trans, you are now seen as competition to a certain subset of women that will make you feel included while never actually including you. It doesnt matter if the men/women you find only want to be with trans women specifically. To them, your existence is at odds with their goal: of not being single. If you didn't exist, there would be more (wo)men in the pool. Its an irrational way of thinking, but the people that think like this are irrational. I don't even need to explain the type im talking about in any specific manner because it is just that common that I know that you know.

You say you want to take control of your life and I feel you. My advice? Pick up a hobby or interest you left behind in your youth. Approach it with the mindset of adult you, in all your wisdom and knowledge you might not even realize you have. Focus on the difference between then and now. Alternatively, try a "feminine" hobby you've never experienced like gardening or something. To me, it just seems like you're nihilistically depressed from existential boredom, and realizing how far you've come already is all you really need bro.

>>81970136
It's not about dating or feminine hobbies, I want to change my physical body
>and realizing how far you've come already is all you really need bro.
That sort of cheesy advice only works on people who have everything they already want