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Anonymous
7/27/2025, 2:24:05 AM No.81974672
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Have you guys ever thought the reason why you're unsuccessful with women is because of your moral compass/being a moralfag?

Obviously there are good people that don't need to and are successful with relationships but there are others that decide that being a piece of shit is the way to go.
This could be sleeping with someone who is in a relationship and basically being a home wrecker, sleeping with your friend's gf or exgf and ruining a friendship and possibly a whole social circle, sleeping with a coworker and possibly losing their job, straight up playing/lying to women to have sex with them a few times then leaving them or this could be straight up becoming a john and going to escorts/sexworkers.

Out of all of these I have only done seeing escorts and I regretted it and still felt lonely afterwards. If I did any of the other things listed I definitely would not feel good about my self. I just don't see why some people would resort to throwing away their moral code and become a scoundrel/piece of shit just to get laid. Even if the outcome is that she get's pregnant some guys will just leave. Personally I don't think I could ever live with myself doing that but there are some guys out there that could do all of what I listed and not care if they did all of this and just go ghost. If not doing any of that and keeping it in my pants (as well as my integrity) makes me an incel, then so be it I guess.

It's just as I get older (am 36 now) I see more of this behaviour and it's becoming not only more acceptable but more encouraged. I do feel bad for the younger generation because of this shit being more common now.

Anyone have any insight on this? Anyone had an opportunity to get laid this way but turn it down? If you did become amoral and got laid this way, do you regret it? How are you able to live with yourself?
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Anonymous
7/27/2025, 2:42:51 AM No.81974891
My experiences have proved out your theory. I am a closet moralfag and I have only been able to have relationships with women when I minimize my disgust response to their words or behavior or otherwise act in a calloused or immoral way. When I share my values or start off with them they are visibly 'cooled off' or standoffish and respond in vague negative ways. In general I think women are predisposed to relativistic values. I honestly don't want to try anymore and am finding great joy in not compromising to socialize with people who wouldnt like me anyway.
Anonymous
7/27/2025, 2:55:19 AM No.81975035
>>81974672 (OP)
I've been unsuccessful in this way, by that I mean I could have had sex and get into flings but I chose not to.
I'm also older like you, but one thing that has changed is I no longer feel FOMO. I just don't care. I've met enough people and been in enough situations to realize nothing is ever as amazing as it seems from the outside. That, or I get access to friend groups/women and the only thing I want to do is escape from them, because it's an annoyance.
Also, the most profound relationship I've ever had with a woman involved no sex at all. She blew all of the other girls out of the water purely through emotional connection.