>you gotta approach women incel
>no, not like that, you gotta TALK to them
>NO NO NO INCEL, you cannot ask for their number right now! Wait until a certain amount of time has passed or she will think that you are a creep
>matter a fact, don't just ask for her number. Ask if she wants to go out for dinner
>BUT make sure it's something not cheap otherwise she will think that you are cheap and-
I don't want a GF if it takes this much bullshit to get one.

it doesn't take any bullshit to get one. normie advice is meant to maintain their internal point of a just world becuase they're emotionally fragile.

Them giving you this sort of advice is the same as a person withdrawing their hand from a hot stove upon being burned. Its not intentional, its automatic.

The truth is, its extremely easy to get a gf, if you're meant to have one. In EVERY case where genuine attraction/romantic love is involved, the women make it abundantly obvious even to someone with autism/down syndrome that they're interested. What does it take? Tall and handsome face. Simple as.

>>82062646 (OP)
>3 mild inconveniences
>"this much bullshit"
lil bro evaporates if sunlight touches him

>>82062662
Ive seen short guys with girlfriends. Explain yourself.

>>82062685
You're making statements in bad faith since I already made explicit the conditions under which my points stand. The answer to your question is explicitly stated in what you replied to.

Be an honest person instead of a derailing insect.

>>82062676
yuh yuh lil bro on god skibidi rizzaz yuh yuh

>>82062705
Which statements (plural) have I made? Why are you yapping if you don't know the answer?

>>82062716
Don't get scared now, my little bitch queen. You got caught out, there's no saving face.

>>82062685
I heard a dog meow once. Explain yourself.

>>82062685
Money. It's either looks, personality or your wallet.

>>82062646 (OP)
>you gotta talk to women
>talks to women
>gets arrested for sexual harassment
>why don't men approach us
endless loop

>>82062685
Once upon a time, many decades ago, when gen X talked about TFL (True Forced Loneliness), there was a hypothesis that there's a hidden factor, for example something like a lack of pheromones, that explains why some men can't attract or even repel women. Without factor X, there are too many exceptions to the LMS rule. LMS, personality, mental disorders, demographic circumstances and such hypotheses are not sufficient to explain the true forever alone types.

>>82062724
most people have money.

>>82062735
i used to hear that clothes make the man. before that it was "how close you are to God". it's all just cope. relationships are developed the same way you get better at cooking if you spend time cooking. there could be mysterious factors but humans quite literally evolved to adapt and fuck each other frequently.

>>82062646 (OP)
>walk up to a lady
>say she made you feel some sort of way when you crossed eyes with her just now
>ask if she's single
>ask if she'd be open for a date
>ask for her number
>ask when she'd like to talk
>if you are not in a rush just strike up a conversation about "what brings you here?"

That's literally all it takes to get a date. If they have a bf, it is what it is. If they are uncomfortable and dont want to talk - you are just ugly, I'm sorry.

>>82062759
>humans quite literally evolved to adapt and fuck each other frequently.
That's not an accurate statement if you believe in hypergamy. On the other hand it seems unlikely that humans were hypergamous in small hunter gatherer communities. Either way why aren't some humans fucking frequently according to your view?

>>82062795
>believe in hypergamy
are you on crack or something, lemme get some. some women marry rich guys, but that's clearly not the norm.

>small hunter gatherer communities
this leads into a few valid conversations but the short of it is that you need a community where you're not a slave.

>why aren't some humans fucking frequently
poor health, they get sexual gratification in some other way, or they are generally isolated from the opposite sex. those are what I would assume for the vast majority of new types of celibate freaks. there has always been a genetic component but our mutation rates have not really changed in thousands of years, so the number of deformed (looks) and insane (personality) men who are too repulsive even for other ugly insane women would be proportionally the same.

>>82062822
>are you on crack or something, lemme get some. some women marry rich guys, but that's clearly not the norm.
There's a difference between polygamy and hypergamy. It's obvious that a majority of women is attracted to a minority of men.

>this leads into a few valid conversations but the short of it is that you need a community where you're not a slave.
All communities are hierarchical these days.

>poor health, they get sexual gratification in some other way, or they are generally isolated from the opposite sex.
You seem to confuse cause and effect. Unattractive men are not cared for since childhood and that's how negative spirals get started both biological and behavioral.