I can not afford a gf. I wouldn't mind spending my limited time with her but they all want that you own a car, have a house, take her to a restaurant at least once per week, to some concert, traveling at least once per year, buying stuff like gifts, flowers, clothings etc. and don't even get me started on a wedding which would cost 40k or more. I have no idea how normalfags can afford all of this when most don't even make that much money. I make 55k euro which is average for my country yet I can only afford to life alone and save around 1k per month which is not much.

>>82110536 (OP)
>save around 1k per month
That's enough to see a hooker once a week. Much cheaper than a gf.

I suppose if you have a joint income it wouldnt be so bad - not all women expect this kind of stuff - you have to look in the right places and be upfront and honest about it immediately - honestly dont bother with someone in the first place if thats all theyre interested in

>>82110536 (OP)
>I have no idea how normalfags can afford all of this when most don't even make that much money
That's the fun part: they don't
They can't afford those things, that's why bank loans are a thing
For smaller purchases, there's always those "buy now, pay later" payment plans

Don't sweat it, OP

>>82110536 (OP)
Discord allows you to change status??
I guess it makes sense how everytime I messaged her she vanished offline

>>82110578
I don't care that much about sex more about the feelings and romance a gf would bring and that we could do things together. Also hookers are disgusting and I want to safe this money to invest.
>>82110585
Yeah maybe not, but women always want someone who is better than them. If you can't offer them anything then they don't want you. This is why I never had a gf.

>>82110536 (OP)
Do you guys not want this? I want to have a car, house, regular fancy dinners, yearly travel, seeing my favourite artists in concerts, and I want to buy my gf gifts and flowers. The only thing I don't want is an expensive wedding.
Other than that I don't see a problem with a woman wanting these things because they're things I want anyway and I'd be sharing them with other people in my life if I didn't have a gf anyway so why not share with her.

>>82110597
But at some point they can't afford to pay the loan back if they keep taking up new ones. They have to pay interest after all.
>>82110618
Yeah some people even write you when they appear offline. I would not talk with someone like this since it is just scummy.

Its odd - if I had a bf I would buy him little gifts all the time - Id appreciate if he got me stuff too occasionally but to be honest being there for me and being sweet is all I want - I actually mostly want someone who is interested in the same nerdy stuff as me

>>82110636
Because all of this things are pretty expensive. A car even a used one costs at least 20k euro and don't even get me started on insurance, matinatnce and gas. Same goes for a house. A house costs at least 300k for a small one and then all the things you have to pay like taxes and upkeep. Traveling is also super expensive and concert tickets and hotels also cost a lot of money.
I can't afford that at all.

>>82110657
Sure, and that's why despite most of them being retards, they somehow manage to pull through

How old are you, OP?

>>82110636
I want a car because I need one to do things. I want a house because I need a place to call my own. I don't want regular fancy dinners, my mom and sister's homecooked food is better. I don't want yearly travel, Florida is better. I don't want to see my favorite artists in concerts, they are dead. I do want to buy gf gifts and flowers.

>>82110676
Yeah sure something small here and there would be fine but life in general already got pretty expensive. And most women don't think that way. They want to spend money like crazy. What nerdy stuff do you even like?

>>82110704
Yeah but how do they do that? I know a lot of them have rich parents who help them with a lot of it but I don't have that. My parents are both poor and I even had to give them money from time to time.
I am in my late 20s.
>>82110718
Sure I would also want a car but I simply can't afford one and a house is just a dream at this point.

>>82110684
Expensive yes but that doesn't make them undesirable. Dual income makes a lot of things possible and women care more about your ambition than what you actually have most of the time.

>>82110778
I never said this things are undesirable, just that they are too expenisve. Again maybe things are more possible with a dual income but yeah I doubt it.
>women care more about your ambition
What does that even mean in words? When I hear that I only imagine her looking for someone who will be rich one day.

>>82110536 (OP)
>they want you to have a car
>women want a man, not a middle schooler
SHOCKING.
>taker her out once a week, concerts, traveling
Yeah that's bullshit. Religious hermit life.

>>82110848
Again even a used car costs 20k euro and other fixed cost of a car costs another 200 euro per month and that is not even with gas which can costs 400-500 euro per month if you use it every day. I can not afford that.

>>82110771
You know the answer already, anon
Rich parents

The thing about life is that, it's not like a videogame - You don't just wake up one day with nothing to your name fresh off the boat, you can't just "push through" with your own efforts alone

We're humans
We're born, and based on where we were born, what race, our cultural norms, our socio-economic status, etc. - it leads to responsibilities, tethers, links
We're beholden to our surroundings, our parents, our relationships

What I'm trying to say is life was pre-determined for you up to a certain point, it's gonna be tough to compete with folks who've got generational wealth

>>82110628
>more about the feelings and romance a gf would bring
That's a fantasy you got from media. A gf won't give you feelings and romance. They only want sex.

>>82110926
I mean you can if you get lucky, I once had 200k in crypto and could have over 1m if I would have held but this was last year now I only have 40k left. But I know what you mean I know that there is not much I can do I have already wasted most of my 20s and by now it is too late to get a gf anyway. I always knew I could never compete with this people and never wanted to just have my own little happines. Sadly it will most likely never be.

>>82110948
I dunno I think there are women who also care about that. Nothing wrong with wanting sex but I think the other things are more important. Like I would rather have a relationship with little to no sex but with a lot of care for each other and same interest and values than a lot of sex but little to no care and no shared interest or values.

>>82110970
>Sadly it will most likely never be.
Ehh, you'll get there - just not now
Maybe we'll see in 5-10 years down the line eh?

>>82110536 (OP)
>tfw no successful gf who allows me to be neet

>>82111010
I doubt that and I don't plan to ever entertain some old woman who already had dozens of partners before me.

>>82111055
>old woman
no one's telling you to settle down with a hag
you can just get them young - college age young is a nice (legal) sweet spot

>>82110657
lmao. I permanently set myself to offline because it's nobody's damn business to know when I'm online

>>82111083
They don't want old guys which I understand.

>>82111100
>They don't want old guys
I don't think we live on the same planet OP

>>82111171
I think we do, most women are only okay with a age gap of around 4 years.

>>82111171
shut up and be demoralized chud

>>82111251
you've met and talked to most women huh?
you know what they want and all?

>>82110746
Mostly books - fantasy especially - I like to dress up and cosplay etc, video games too - that kinda stuff

>>82110536 (OP)
We need to brain wash theses whores that poor couples that work together to build their wealth are way Happer the a whore and a Rich man

>>82111323
I want one of these types of girlfriend literally the exact interestes as me i don't even care what they look like as long as they are like me but I could never find one and have a connection with them

>>82111413
What stuff are u interested in ?

>>82111316
Not many but a lot of them said that. Also why would they go for someone older when they can get a better looking guy who is younger? Does not make any sense. Only if they are out for money and you have some but otherwise no.
>>82111323
That sounds all like things that are pretty high in demand so why don't you have a bf? I also like that kind of stuff but isn't cosplay kind of expesnive? I have seen some pre made ones for like 40 euro online but I guess they are low quality and miss a lot of accessories.
>>82111332
This type of women is getting married when they are young.

>>82111470
So the issue right now isn't your looks, just money?
Guess you just have to get one of those low-maintenance girls - the ones content with a date at McDonalds or their idea of a good time is hanging out in bed watching rom-coms

>>82111487
I never said that I am attractive. Just average which is not enough as well. The only good thing about me is that I am tall.
I would love to have a gf like this I mean I would not mind if we go outside and visit things like a museum togheter. Just spending a lot money on things seems pointless to me.

>>82111470
Im too shy to talk to people irl and get stuck in my own head a lot - Ive been approached before but cannot actually talk to people irl

>>82111441
Games mostly single player because I didn't want wasted money on PlayStation Plus or shit like that but I i got a pc now and sometimes play cheep online games like mage arena anime i watch the interesting non slop ones like vinland saga call of the night witch watch history medieval or medieval fantasy like the Witcher and kingdom come if I get serious about making games i would make it in medieval times but slowly add the fantasy element i also like cosplay but I don't have any money right now not book reader but I just finished the first dune book it was more interesting than the move

>>82111470
>This type of women is getting married when they are young
Don't worry the legal age of marriage in my country is 12

>>82111633
I guess then you can try online dating and get to know the person online first, I think that would make things easier. I mean I am also shy and this is the only way for me to ever talk to women. Talking with someone for some time and then going from text to voice and then irl is a lot better for shy people since get to know them in your own pace and can build up trust.

>>82111654
You ever played rdr2 or Bioshock? Theyre my fave single player games - I love the fallout series too - and I read a lot of fantasy books

>>82111676
>Don't worry the legal age of marriage in my country is 12
Where are you from some muslim country lol? I don't think marrying a 12 year old is a good thing besides that.

>>82111679
I guess but desu I get nervous with that too - I get in my own head a lot - low self esteem shackles me !

>>82111685
You are not from the uk are you?

>>82110536 (OP)
it legit takes more effort for them to mute you than to unfriend if they dont reply within a day you should unadd them and let them readd you

>>82110657
>at some point they can't afford to pay the loan back
nope.

>>82111709
Probably shouldnt answer that on here lol

>>82111538
>Just spending a lot money on things seems pointless to me.
Life is generally like that, its all just distractions - but the good thing is you can choose if you wanna spend your distractions on things that make you feel good/bad

you'll get your girl one day, anon
i believe in you

>>82111701
Someone who likes you and spends time with you can help you with that. Low self esteems sucks a lot but if you want to have a bf you have to at least try. Find someone who is understanding with your issues and use clear communications so he understands your issues. You said you want someone who is nice to you, a man who is nice will give you enough time to feel comfy.
>>82111716
Wdym no? If they keep making new loans then they have to keep paying interest for it. The only way this would work is if they would get money from someone else.

>>82111727
Okay are you from the eu or not? You can at least answer this.

>>82111748
Aw thank you anon - youre very sweet and kind - I appreciate that a lot - im gonna try working on my confidence and stuff - keeping of social media has helped the most

>>82111760
Yessss I am haha

>>82111728
Okay I worded that wrong I mean spending too much money on useless stuff.
>you'll get your girl one day, anon
Thank but I doubt that, I don't even know where I could meet here.
>>82111763
Good luck. One thing you should try, is to belive what someone says about you if you trust said person even if you think that is not true. Social media is honestly the worst and nobody should use it.

>>82111770
What parts of the eu?

>>82111685
Old pic but these are my games
>You ever played rdr2
1 and 2 i really enjoyed the first one but 2 is My favorite i really hoped they make undead nightmare for 2 but Rockstar abandoned that game ever since they couldn't make money from the online
>Bioshock?
I also played 1 and 2 any they weren't bad by any means but I couldn't really appreciate them back in the day and they are on my bucket list to revisit
>I love the fallout series too
I fuking love fallout series i even played one and 2 on my phone that Chess Club bastard Todd Howard can lie to me all day and I will still eat it up
>I read a lot of fantasy books
Anything interesting
This is not a e date or a e sex offer we can just chat about games and stuff and Leve it at that
clue2323232

>>82111900
Is that your discord? - I can add on there if that is okay - will be nice to nerd out a little bit haha

>>82111996
Yeah it's feel free to hit me up or disappear when you feel like it