Ive seen women roll their eyes or laugh when they hear the phrase "male loneliness epidemic" but a lot of us feel it. Ive never had a friend in my life. Why do women dismiss our problems? Do they actually hate us?

>>82113894 (OP)
Tat is 1 of the devils trix is 2 make sex seem more scarce than it actually is. U shld go outside. He has 2 lie about it, becuz. Well, he is a scamming demon alien. Altho he has magic powers n does kill lots of humans. I have watched him kill countless times 4 fun. With no justice on the way, am at a loss at wat 2 do. Ppl dnt seem 2 notice the serial killer n rapist alien.

>>82113894 (OP)
If you're not CHAD you're invisible unless you make yourself visible somehow and then yes they hate you for existing.

They hate us yes. They don't recognize it because they feel they are entitled to hate us and that their hate is normal because they feel it. Drop a discord addy so we can begin a friendship.

>>82113894 (OP)
>Drop a discord addy so we can begin a friendship.
I dont have discord unfortunately but if you use telegram, mine is @tokyoserene

They roll their eyes because it's not male issue, it's everyone issue. No one has friends nowadays. They are rolling their eyes because you calling it a make thing is admitting you area narcissist and thus deserve your situation

>>82113894 (OP)#
Well dear, it turns out that you men are victims of the very system you created and put in our heads (women) that you have to be manly. Don't get depressed for not getting a thousand women in one night, my angel

>>82113894 (OP)
> Do they actually hate us?

Absolutely.

Men are an enormous threat from a female perspective. You could force your unattractive genes on her and then force her to give birth which, historically speaking, was a huge risk for a woman. They hate most men at a fundamental level because of this.

'male loneliness epidemic' is just a psyop to make young men feel shame for not wanting to settle down with modern fat SSRI junkie whores whilst feigning sympathy

>>82114980
That's what women want, though, in the male system you had to be a good citizen, in the female system you have to be a dysgenic criminal.

>>82114980
working class men didn't create it and don't benefit from the system, you're being dishonest.

>>82114980
It makes absolutely zero sense for there to be a system that actively antagonizes the demographic that it supposedly was made by and for.

>>82114922
This

It's not invalidation of the issue, it's thinly veiled disgust at your selfishness and delusion for feeling entitled to sex or even romance when men on average are morally corrupt brutes. The absolute worst ones are the self-identified "romantics" because they spend all day day dreaming and making threads insisting what a good and caring partner they would be, what a kind and compassionate person they are, but they're just pity wanking when they could be, I don't know, TAKING A STAND AGAINST FUCKING TREASONOUS MILITIAS KIDNAPPING MEN WOMEN AND CHILREN IN THE STREETS???
No revolution no pussy you oblivious, self centered hypocrites

>>82113894 (OP)
we need more of these pencil drawings I love this style

>>82115687
Almost right, but you still place responsibility squarely on men's shoulders when men are the majority of revolutionaries in spite of the incel epidemic.

Besides, the loneliness epidemic affects men more not in a demographic level, but on a symbolic one: it's working class men who are hurt the most through machism because, by definition, they'll never reach the ideal of masculinity imposed by capitalist consummerism, and instead of blaming the system's flaws, they blame men as a group.

In other words, you're just reproducing the core issue.

>>82115918
society blames men*

you act like they're god and give a fuck at all let alone can do anything their only job is to roll their eyes they're not evil

look it's called the dark side of the force
learn it

>>82113894 (OP)
Why do you care? If you are here, you already know women dont even consider men human unless they are in the top 10% of men. It just seems stupid to expect sympathy from people who consider you to be subhuman.

>>82113894 (OP)
Because women who perpetuate that mindset are their gender's incels.
>don't regard men as human often
>dismiss their issues
Even when confronted with a genuine person of the opposite gender asking for answers you'll see them get uppity on reddit citing male rape statistics they have every right to be paranoid etc. It's a self-fulfilling loop of misery. They will pull out every excuse in the book to hate men and so much more. They do not compromise. All they are capable of is dragging other people down with them.

>>82114922
You must admit that there are differences in causes/solutions let alone enough of a difference between genders itself to warrant isolating them when trying to find solutions? Sure the way it's framed can make it come off like it's only effecting males, but look at the fuckign stats retard. Women have more friends, more social in workplaces, they even brag about that shit. Fence sittign faggot kys

Whenever women talk about their problems, no one dismisses it en masse, saying boo hoo that's an everyone issue. We acknowledge even if it does actually, while it can also effect women differently. When men do that, you get people like thjis>>82114922

I guarantee I have suffered more than any man here as a woman. All of the exclusion, bullying, abuse, trauma, WITH sexual abuse from family and randoms as well. You niggers would've already killed yourselves.

>>82116163
I can tell, you choose to spend your time in this shit hole. I don't care what you went thru, if you ended up here that just answers everything. Sorry not sorry for simply holding a mirror up to yuo.

>>82113894 (OP)
Many of them think it is the consequences of our own actions (the le evil patriarchy!) and that we have no right to complain.

>>82116163
No ones falling for this bait lol

>>82116163
Tits or gtfo NIGGERFAGGOT

>>82113894 (OP)
Its because women are no longer the centre of attention, furthermore they are forced to take accountability. They dont like either of these things. There isnt really much more to be said.

>>82116170
>holding a mirror up to yuo
What a hottie

>>82115918
>you still place responsibility squarely on men's shoulders
A hyuck hyuhhh nowhere near right you're just a a little faggot of an anteater snuffling around for an angle because I didn't waste more of the character count to give a disclaimer detailing the female side of accountability and applied action sybau

>majority of revolutionaries
Modern day? First of all by what bunk ass statistic? Second of all irrelevant and don't even bother because you're delegitimizing organizational aspects of revolt, TRADITIONALLY FEMININE ROLES like acting as medics at protests, using expendable funds or culinary skills to feed and outfit fellow protestor and so on. Getting aggro in a cop's face isn't the only form of protest. And men lock up and don't do SHIT even when women are getting assaulted by just garden variety psychos and rapists, but other women will commonly intervene in violent circumstances on behalf of women or children.

You responded with more decorum and good faith than most Anons would on this board these days so I acknowledge and appreciate that but I'm in no mood to be anything but sick and tired of being sick and tired, so you responding with such a presumptuous oversight right off the bat to then go and dodge the premise to some abstract thinkpiecing about the symbolic effects of the MLE just has me livid

You're a pseud, for a start, and all the etiquette and pure intent in the world can't give me the energy to entertain further discussion with someone that would consist of 90% getting them up to rhetorical speed before any real discussion can even begin. Go talk to a fellow 15 year old

>>82116411
>>other women will commonly intervene
HAHAHAHHAHAHA
HOLY SHIT WOMEN ARE LARPING TO PRETEND TO HAVE ANY GROUNDS AND THEY FORGOT THEY WERE LYING

It's not that we hate you.
It's just that the internet is filled to the brim with these shitty crises, epidemics, disasters and catastrophies, its exhausting.
Just every little problem on earth needs to be turned into this crisis.
And the offered solution is endless chest beating, guilt tripping, you have to say sorry and feel guilty all while we "raise awareness" by shoving it in everyones faces.
The male loneliness epidemic, the climate crisis, the gaza genocide, the cost of living crisis, the housing crisis...
Can you please show me an actual real problem with a solution, rather than guilt tripping me with another shitty crisis?
Please

>>82116206
>>82116206
KYS
Kiss YourSelf ;)

>>82113894 (OP)
I know trannies who do the same despite the fact they were incels before trooning lol.

>>82113894 (OP)
What you have to realize is that if you're not a woman or a man of high socioeconomic status, then they really don't give a shit about what happens to you. They get annoyed when they you talk about your problems or give off any signs of life at all. They wouldn't care if you died homeless by shooting yourself in the head, they just wish you do so in some dark secluded corner, so they don't have to look at your corpse.

>>82114922
>No one has friends nowadays.
it's probably not equal 50/50.
>you area narcissist and thus deserve your situation
this statement in itself is debatable. it is a disorder like any other and also misunderstood

>>82113894 (OP)
Yes. Why else do you think they hate speech men so often and call all men rapists and dehumanize them and say anything they're struggling with is their own fault. I'm sure some women are fine, but at least the general vibes toward men for the last 20 years have been vile.
>>82115687
>>82116411
>men on average are morally corrupt brutes.
>No revolution no pussy you oblivious, self centered hypocrites
>little faggot
>And men lock up and don't do SHIT even when women are getting assaulted by just garden variety psychos and rapists

Your whole argument is based around hate speeching men and proping up women. I don't care about the latter, but the former is disgusting.
Men, on average, are not morally corrupt brutes sygnificantly more than women are.
Donald Trump being in power and doing all this wild shit has only proven that the left was complacent with keeping things shitty and not raising the minimum wage and giving us the college loans and not fixing shit. Further, if you want a revolution, why not pick up your gun and go do it yourself. Men voted for Trump. They don't feel the same way you do about there being a country worth fighting for. Women contribute way more to revolutions according to you, so what's stopping you? Why not channel your valkyrie together and feed abd support the men who will shoot trump so much that it will be a cakewalk for them? Why don't just women organize and run the whole country? Rather than just passive-aggressively complain about how men aren't doing anything?
Men historically had to fight and die in revolutions a lot. You can't just pretend they did nothing. As much as logistics matter and women played their part, mounds of people have to die. Fighting in war is not a clean business. It is not worth it for just "honor." It's something you have to be willing to DIE for.

The reason they roll their eyes at "male loneliness epidemic" is because they only view Chad Thundercock as male. In their experience, men (Chad):
>are not lonely
>have a huge number of friends and partners
>get sex every day
>abuse them and pump-and-dump them daily
>get everything handed to them on a silver platter
>are loved and adored by everybody they meet
So when you tell them "men are lonely" they laugh about it, what a ridiculous and stupid thing to say.

You, of course, are not a "man" in this scenario. It's likely they don't even view you as a human being.

>>82113894 (OP)
Women claim to be more emotionally intelligent and empathetic but thats only the false face they show to other women and society, they see men as pets at best and deranged animals at worst.

>>82113915
first post schizo post

>>82115687
>thinly veiled disgust
Not veiled whatsoever.
>selfishness and delusion for feeling entitled to sex
Forgot we were talking about incels -- not! This is about loneliness, not sex.
>Romantics are the worst
"Yeah, romantics are the worst. Nobody should pity their loneliness. Historically, sad people didn't create timeless works of art. Also, being bitter about lacking human connection is cringe and I'm not an unfeeling ghoul that doesn't understand how horrible it is to be outcast."
>they could be fighting instead!!
How empathetic of you to see men as tools to work for your benefit...

Being outcast causes more antisocial behavior. You don't magically get more social cohesion after encouraging loneliness.
"A child that is not embraced by a village will burn it down to feel its warmth."
-- African proverb

The solution here is to work together. Drop the gender war bullshit and see you "enemies" as misinformed allies. Stop sowing division and you'll stop getting loneliness in turn.

>>82113894 (OP)
>Ive seen women roll their eyes or laugh when they hear the phrase "male loneliness epidemic"
No, you just assume those people are female.
>but a lot of us feel it
/You/ do. There's just no "epidemic". The reason people roll their eyes is because you come with absurd claims like that 80% of males don't have sex or whatever.

Some people have cancer too and that sucks for them, but there's no epidemic and everyone would raise an eyebrow if some cancer support group started saying that 80% of people have cancer which just isn't true.

>Why do women dismiss our problems? Do they actually hate us?

Your problems exist but I don't feel sympathy any more because every time I talk with one of you people it becomes clear its your own fault.

Also, you people are probably the reason for silent protagonists in videogames and similar things which I hate so I consider you the enemy.

>>82114922
Bullshit. Most people have friends, you're all just genetic dead end losers.

If it's all so bad, why don't you become each other's friends then? Oh wait, because you don't even want to be friends with each other. You can't even stomach each other's company showing it's all your own fault.

One of the reason these lonely losers are obnoxious as hell is that they constantly project their own tastes onto either all people or their entire sex.

Men are so porn sick now a days. Why would a woman want a relationship with a man that needs viagra at 25? That is addicted to cybersex? That has a discord filled with porn channels? Youre willing to put that much energy into a false reality youre addicted to but how many men put that much energy into their real life connections? Its better to be alone than to be used as a beard for a porn addict.

>>82113894 (OP)
Ignore the bullshit, keep your head down and make something of yourself. They will be envious when they hit the wall.

>>82113894 (OP)
>women do not give a single fuck about non-Chad men, which is most men
>if women acknowledge men actually have problems it hurts their (women's) agenda that only women can ever suffer and be victims
>if attention/resources are used on problems affecting men that means less attention/resources dedicated to women

>>82114922
No, there's still a pretty big disparity in the number and quality of relationships that men and women have. I do agree that loneliness is affecting everyone to a greater degree now but men have specific issues that cause this problem to be more pronounced.

>>82118245
>Most people have friends
Sure but people have less friends and shallower connections than they did in the past. Especially men due to how they're socialized. It's definitely a real issue that affects people. It's just that annoying retards use this issue to harp on and on about not getting pussy, so it's taken less seriously than it should be.

>>82118341
>better to be alone
Are you actually alone or are you still having casual sex?

>>82118432
Yeah, i was a virgin before meeting him as well. Wasted 11 years to find out all his lies. Wasted what was left of my youth on a fucking liar abuser. I cannot conceive of being with another man at this point. I let myself be vulnerable finally and this is what i got.

>>82118467
I was originally responding to give you shit but I'm genuinely sorry to hear that. I'm sorry he wasted so much of your time. That's awful. What made you finally leave him?

>>82118245
One of the biggest truths I have seen on this site so far, but they can't stomach this. People forget that this is such a tiny corner of the internet and most people don't even think about these incel things lol.

>>82118509
I found out. Someone from a porn discord sent him branded porn merch. He didnt even try to hide it from me. He just left it out in the open in our bedroom. They even threw in a Tenga egg for him. I was so trusting of him i guess he thought he could just go unquestioned. Literally sent me in a SI spiral for three weeks. Turns out he had men, women, trans men, trans women in his contacts he would routinely have cyber sex with over the last 5 years.

>>82118549
>cyber sex
So you left him for literally no reason. He didn't even cheat on you.

>>82118549
I caught my ex in the same kind of situation, he was sending nudes in our own bathroom WHILE I WAS HOME AND ASKING FOR SEX, my standards are now unreachable because my one rule is "no porn, no porn addiction". But apparently that is "insane" and "controlling" and "porn is normal". I fucking hate society.

>>82118571
Average Tea App user

>>82118584
Average porn addicted moid. I never signed up for that shit.

>>82118566
He was buying panties from one of these people. he also was texting them mundane things throughout the day like they were in a relationship. I feel like i was just a warm body to accompany him irl while he was meeting all his relationship needs with people online.
>>82118571
Yeah i also feel like i would need a partner that does not use porn. It feels crazy to ask for that kind of thing so I am probably just going to check out from dating forever. I was never pursued by men anyway so it is going to be easy enough to just go to work and ignore them all.

>>82114922
Yep, even billionaires are starving these days. grocery prices are an everyone issue.

>>82113894 (OP)
If you're a cute guy I'll be your friend.

>>82118427
Then again, why not become each other's friends then? If it's actually an "epidemic" then there should be others in your street block right? Why has no one made some online service then to find other friendless people near you when people make dating apps, seems like a market to me if this truly be so.
Well, because it isn't the case at all and there is no market.

>>82118515
Yeah, it's really weird how people so often without a trace of irony just have no concept of corners of the internet. People seriously actually unironically use what they see on Tiktok as evidence of society, they literally say "Well, what I saw on TikTok proves that..." I don't think these people know how Tiktok works.

I have literally never in real life heard anyone even say "incel". People don't talk about it, the only time I hear loneliness brought up it's old people.

Well and my lonely male cousin we sometimes visit but he's practically bedridden so yeah.

>>82118625
Do not listen to any of the moids that tell you it wasn't cheating, or you are overreacting. They are the same kind of man who did it to you in the first place. I am sure you are lovely and deserve happiness.
Take your time and heal like I am doing, do not swear it off forever, though. There are still some men who are porn free.

>>82113894 (OP)
>Ive seen women roll their eyes or laugh when they hear the phrase "male loneliness epidemic" but a lot of us feel it.
This is my first even seeing someone who isn't a woman using the phrase. Every instance until now has been a feminist bringing it up and saying it's self-imposed or that they shouldn't be expected to care about it.
It seems like the gender swapped version of guys making fun of wine aunt/cat lady archetypes, some form of imagined schadenfreude.

>>82118341
This is one reason why I'll never date. I know I vastly prefer fiction to reality and it'd just be a waste of time to try changing. I'm simply going to accept that I chose to be lonely and I'm going to accept the consequences because it's in the best interest of everyone.

>>82118549
>Turns out he had men, women, trans men, trans women in his contacts he would routinely have cyber sex with over the last 5 years
Well that is actually cheating. Bit different than just porn. Me and my ex would look at porn together and I didn't really care if she looked at it in her free time. I think it's only an issue if it's disrupting y'all's sex life.

>>82118656
>Take your time and heal like I am doing do not swear it off forever though. There are still some men who are porn free
I hope I am able to heal, it is still really fresh for me and i am still trying to put everything together. Like he is actually not a good person. A good person wouldnt lie about all of this. They wouldnt guilt me about sex when theyre the one with an addiction so bad they cannot get an erection and yet they do nothing to get help. He is not a good person. I have to keep telling myself this because i just want to feel safe and loved again but it feels so impossible right now.

>>82118652
>why not become each other's friends then?
Because forcing a human connection doesn't work the vast majority of the time. A lot of this stems from poor socialization too. You could put people in a room together but there's no guarantee they'll actually become friends.
>Why has no one made some online service then to find other friendless people near you
Those already exist. There's meetup.com and dating apps with friend sections. Also groups like this https://youtu.be/mzPepaR2aXc?feature=shared

>>82118716
Watching porn once or twice a week is different than being a porn addict also. Personally i will not be engaging with a man that used porn again. I thought it was ok for him to watch porn because i did too sometimes in the beginning. But an addict is an addict. And now i feel disgusted even seeing a sexually explicit scene in a show or movie.
>>82118692
At least youre not delusional and are not using someone and lying to them.

>>82113894 (OP)
>Do they actually hate us?
Someone post the image. You know the one.

>>82118748
Then why not use them? You first meet online and see if there's a click and then meet up in real life.
Could it be that they're ghost towns because almost everyone has friends?

Really, I just don't see this being real. If there were truly a significant portion of friendless people there would easily be ways to find each other but either one of two is true:
>There almost are no friendless people
>The friendless people don't even want to be friends with each other because they're the problem

>>82114980
>you le groomed me into wanting a violent serial killer

>>82118861
>everyone has friends?
I'm not saying literally no one has any friends at all. I'm saying that people now have fewer and more shallow relationships than they did in the past. And people do use those services. But like I said before, you generally can't force a connection. Here's an article talking about it, anon. https://bigthink.com/neuropsych/americans-no-friends/

>>82116411
>A hyuck hyuhhh
Disgusting.
And you say that as if you mentioned the masculine side of the accountability for no ulterior reasons, you just felt like being an unjust and hypocritical piece of shit, right?

>but other women will commonly intervene in violent circumstances on behalf of women or children
'women and children' my ass. Stop infantilizing women and start questioning why those revolutilnary women aren't addressing men's societal issues?

And imagine claiming others are 'pseuds' with all this verbose windbaggery. You don't even believe in anything you're saying, and you're not really angry at anything. This is all theatrical contrarian bullshit.