Be.
A.
Man.

Grow.
The.
Fuck.
Up.

>>82126440 (OP)
>not good for you, your family or this country
Why? I thougut conservatism was about the individual, why are they touting collectivist rhetoric?

>>82126440 (OP)
no

lol

lmao

Don't care; it's fun and it is good for me. Having fun is good.

For the others, maybe this "family" and and "this country" which isn't my country anyway should not rely on me and provide its own living then.

>>82126440 (OP)
Fuck my country. Fuck my family. And you know what? Fuck me too.

>>82126440 (OP)
>already wageslaving
>kikes running the show want to take my porn and vidya
day of guillotine when

>>82126440 (OP)
LMAO.
I will go "back to responsibility" when there's something in it for me. Start with the real problem, women, before trying to tell me I should do something.

>>82126440 (OP)
Dont let this twink fagget tell you what to do.

>>82126440 (OP)
not taking any life advice from Josh Hawley the running man

>>82126440 (OP)
NEETs are truly the most free individuals in the world

>>82126609
>>82126610
Who, and what am I supposed to see here?

>>82126440 (OP)
>Get back to work goy

>you owe the country something
Uh huh. I've got the something right here, it's my repayment for making upward mobility impossible and home ownership more difficult than buying a fucking helicopter. Here you go.

>>82126440 (OP)
Who gives a shit about this country? I fucking hate it and most of the people in it. I wipe my ass with the flag.

>>82126440 (OP)
>you should take on more responsibilities
>while also not getting any kickback, advantage or privilege because if it
Nah, I'm good

>>82126652
Josh Hawley running from rioters he helped incite during the January 6th 2021 US Capitol riot

>>82126440 (OP)
Not worth it
Make it worth it then I am interested, otherwise it's no deal

>>82126587
>Fuck me too.
WELL, IF YUO INSIST
*ZIIIIIIIIIP*

>>82126440 (OP)
Call women first

>>82126440 (OP)
>we need to call men
Excuse me, who the fuck are you to dare calling anyone? You can call us as much as you want, we can also ignore the shit out of you. Make the world a better place for men, and maybe men will do whatever the fuck you want. We do not owe politicians or women shit, they were clear about not wanting men to succeed, why would we listen to them?

>>82126440 (OP)
>You (regular people) need to step up and support our society!
>So that I (good for nothing dipshit with political/media career) can ride on top of it hurling insults and useless opinions at everyone below me
>I have already won at the game of life but it`s not enough, I need to run up the score and spam EZ in the chat, I don`t owe anybody anything
>You should all be responsible and carry the solemn burden of social reproduction so I can maintain a secure platform from which to smear shit in everyone`s faces

Remember what Marx said about making excuses.

>>82126440 (OP)
>You're not a real man
>Be a man
Choose one

>>82126440 (OP)
>you need to do all these retarded annoying things. No you won't be rewarded, your life will be exactly the same but worse. Why? Because... You just have to okay, o algo

>>82126440 (OP)
I would if I could. No jobs

>>82126440 (OP)
Responsibility without authority or privilege is slavery.

>>82126440 (OP)
Being a man means doing whatever the fuck he wants, that has always been his birthright

>>82126440 (OP)
Why isn't he proposing a "Manhattan Project" to make stem cell-based foreskin restoration a reality?
>>82126450
>Why? I thougut conservatism was about the individual, why are they touting collectivist rhetoric?
Good point.
>>82126605
This.

>>82129548
>Why isn't he proposing a "Manhattan Project" to make stem cell-based foreskin restoration a reality?
I mean, he doesn't seriously expect the large mass of circumcised, MGM-pilled men to fall for the
>pull yourself up by your heckin' bootstraps
rhetoric, does he?

>>82126440 (OP)
I don't give a fuck about me, my family or this country

>>82126440 (OP)
And what do men get in return?

I honestly don't understand who the fuck these people think they are. Do they actually believe that their words will eventually manifest into men working in a society that they have absolutely no stake in?

>>82126440 (OP)
Attracting a partner is a major life motivator for many men, that's how it's been since the dawn of humanity. None of the guys who come out with quotes like this seem to want to acknowledge that this is happening because modern women are Chad Only, resulting in men getting depressed and giving up on life. Why is that?

>>82129735
They're psychopaths, they don't have empathy, they can't put themselves in other people's heads. So they're basically just thinking "why aren't my tools working, it's so frustrating".

>>82129690
Judging by the normies I work with, these are the "rewards" you get:
>An annoying post-wall wife who might just be flirting with her coworkers behind your back.
>Annoying expensive kids who demand watching brainrot on smartphones/tablets because all of their peers do it.
>Massive debt from buying your own place.
>Living paycheck-to-paycheck even if you work in STEM, because of your debts and the expense of having a wife and kids.
>The 50% chance of divorce, when you're expected to lose most of what you have.
>Being your wife's workhorse in hopes that she doesn't divorce you for someone younger/richer. 70-90% of divorces are started by women.
>Getting 4-5h of sleep, because you have shit to do in the morning before even going to work.
>Saying stuff like "I enjoy being at work because it gives me an escape from the problems at home".
>Having to help your wife's parents with various shit, even when they're not incapacitated in any way.
>Getting no sex. You're lucky if you get it at holidays or for your birthday, but even then it's low-effort sex with a woman past her prime who's had her body destroyed by pregnancy.

>>82126440 (OP)
>not good for me
Why are you pretending to care only when it benefits you? Where's this concern for men all the other time?
>my family
You mean the families the country stole from men by corrupting women and punishing men?
>this country
Why should I care about my country. Its job is to steal from people and feed the growing globalized corporation governments who actually run things.

Literally, all of activism is like this, too. All of every institution is like this. They just want to have power and use "morality" to justify whatever the fuck they want.

>>82126450
Theres two types of collectivist. The right collectivist doesnt exist currently and isnonly remembered in the hearts of noble souls. The left collectivist always exists, but god help us if they ever get their way because it id a dead end that locks whatever nation adopts it into a torture machine. It is a grave hazard form people to think the only type of collective is the left one.

>>82126440 (OP)
The world has been hollowed out and left a husk. The natural wants and desires that lie in adventurous men are completely at odds with what the system (and women) want us to want. The only way for an adventurous man with a thirst for life to exist in this world is in total despair and depression, because its been made fundamentally impossible live thenlife you want in this empty hollowed out husk of a planet.

>>82129787
>who's had her body destroyed by pregnancy.
The rest is valid, but I think this is a bit unfair, especially if she's the mother of your children.

>>82126440 (OP)
I can't afford to have a family. The system needs to die

>>812126440

I've got to call you back to your responsibility of sucking my dick, and really put some jaw into it. Spending your time on any other activity is not good for you, your family or this country.

>>82129954
I was just being factual. And one of my coworkers actually hinted at it. She said his wife's body just isn't what it used to be before she had kids. Everything's 'floppier' in his words. The science is clear when it comes to the irreversible damage a pregnancy does to a woman.

>>82129881
How did the right wing collectivism work out anyways?
Was the country better after they left office compared to when they entered?

>>82126440 (OP)
What family? There are no single girls left. Not even deporting 100 million people will fix this.

>>82126440 (OP)
Fix our infrastructure first then maybe ill be a happy little patriot

>>82126440 (OP)
>for you
Debatable. This same senator would probably cry if minimum wage was adjust to $20/hr. Its current an anemic $13.75.hr, going to $15/hr in 2026.
>your family
Entry level jobs, the jobs that would be most "beneficial" to these neets, dont pay enough to either establish or support a family.
>this country
Patriotism is as dead as the concept of rights.

>>82126440 (OP)
Every time you get back into the rat race, get a gf, or even a wife, you're giving a useless woman her way out of the rat race. They want you to continue subsidizing women either directly through a 'romantic' relationship, or indirectly with your tax dollars to support feeding/housing her and her kids. There's literally no direct benefit to being a productive member of society.

It's time to man up you neetchuds

>>82126450
Conservatism is not "about" anything except hurting people they don't like. For them everything is negotiable and hypocrisy is a strength and not a weakness.

>>82126450
You can't be an individualist and a conservative. What are you conserving if everyone is just going to be as degenerate as they feel like? Only neo-cons are individualist. Neo-conservatism is not an ideology or a political position, it is simply materialistic pro-capitalism and nothing else.

>>82126440 (OP)
Be.
A.
Man.

Watch
Anime
And
Masturbate

>>82126440 (OP)
Weeeew fuck both parties
I'll keep not working or voting thank you

My goal is become a farmer and be a detriment to humanity. I'll make just the bare minimum to cover property taxes. On a big farmstead it is less than $1,000. Other than that the strategy is to do nothing and win. I grow the food I eat the food. Might get into genetics to help like minded people, if any exist. Trees are stupid expensive but that's only because demand is extremely low. The actual knowledge and time required is next to nothing. I could provide grafted trees with the implicit understanding they now owe me, or have to do similar like the pay it forward concept. If enough people become farmers corporations will go bankrupt, entire industries destroyed, and even nations could fall. All from just doing nothing.

>>82126440 (OP)
>do what society that hates you wants you to do
no thanks

Politics really is just about other people trying to convince you to do their bidding. Hopefully they are sorely disappointed, fucking cocksuckers.

>>82126440 (OP)
yeah good luck with that. still not dying for Israel.

>>82126609
I like that he's trying to stop insider trading, politicians made millions off of covid restrictions due to it

>>82126440 (OP)
Everybody seems to hate that one guy who has given up in life and just plays videogames in his room. For some reason he's responsible for everything bad in society.

We just witness a natural filter where small dicked men write a lot online while the guys with big dicks plunder the girls asses. We are in a world where every animal literally eats the weaker animal to survive. Humans are no different. We need to submit to the men with huge cocks, we cant compete anyways. Black males are now holding the crown. Every girl knows thats the holy grail.

>>82126440 (OP)
fuck my county, politicians, and by family you only refer to women so fuck them too. Fuck gynocentrism. I want to play my vidya in misery than work and constantly be reminded how much of a waste of skin I am when people form social bonds around me. Don't worry ill be in my containment area (my room) so you dont have the displeasure of precieving me in any way, or do you want me around so you could have a convenient punching bag. Why cant mass shooters specifically target politicians and foids

>>82134237
>My goal is become a farmer and be a detriment to humanity
Why'd you say the same thing twice?

>>82126440 (OP)
>Legally enforce jeets and women being hired
>Tells the people who aren't hired that that they need to work anyway
What was the point of this move, politician-kun? Should I just pick a broom and start sweeping the roads for free?

>>82126440 (OP)
Theres no jobs, money, or gfs/wives to "grow up" to. I'm barely making ends meet operating at my best. This is all I can do.

>>82126440 (OP)
I do not care at all

>>82126440 (OP)
what if I wageslave full time but spend my free time doing those things

>>82126450
no, that's liberalism
actual conservative countries like Russia and China are very collectivist
in the west, rightoids want you to be a group when it's convenient for them and an individual when it comes to paying for health insurance and college

>>82134586
>Everybody seems to hate that one guy who has given up in life and just plays videogames in his room.
They are all extremely jealous

>>82134918
They hate you more because those work earnings are supposed to go to some woman you're dating. But tell them how dating isn't what it used to be and they'll just look at you with that fluoride stare.

>>82134981
not even m8, I'm done arguing with normoids and their generic platitudes
I just tell them to mind their own fucking business now

>over half dems agree with their bitter enemy on it too
kek

>>82126440 (OP)
It's kinda funny how like, 8-10 years ago this board was full "NEET master race you die if you work etc" but ever since MAGA election tourists took over 4chan the NEET culture has been replaced by this "wagie grindset, no-fap, go to church and give your money to Shekelstein" psyop.
Like I can't be the only one noticing this right? Maybe it's just a generational gap, zoomers seem way more obsessed with acquiring money than their older siblings were. I just want to be happy I don't give a fuck what some jew loving christfag thinks about my "productivity".

>>82135005
Simple as boss

Not good. Okay. But what was better isn't any better anymore. So "not good" it is.

>>82134965
It's the best option for most men now, honestly. Even this shit just barely stings, it doesn't matter if you do try, you'll just get fucked up the ass for not being better. This society can eat shit, it's not worth anything.

>>82135033
>rich right wing grifters in red suits vs. rich ever-so-slightly-less right wing grifters in blue suits

welcome to ameritard politics, that'll be another 2% of your paycheck for israel plus tip

>>82135147
I thought it was because it's made out to be their loser white basement enemy

>>82126440 (OP)
The ironic thing is that men haven't changed one bit since the previous generations. The reinforcement just isn't there anymore. If a guy could get a job making $100k/year at the Ford factory, he would become employed immediately after high school and work until he retired. But, there is no Ford factory and nothing to feel good about.

>>82130165
Which nation we talking? Constantinople was obviously worse when they left because the Turks took over and killed countless people. While at the start it had to atleast be good enough for the right to take power. Judging a kingdom by the state of its fall is silly

>>82126440 (OP)
It is the responsibility of young men to undo years of cultural subversion and propaganda, and they'll achieve that by allowing themselves to be exploited work horses who endlessly give themselves to selfless sacrifice while others reap from their hard work and efforts.
Brilliant.

>>82135061
You do realize OP was being sarcastic right? You're getting mad at something that hasn't happened.

>>82126440 (OP)
Remove the trigger word of porn and democrats(women) would be 90% in support of this.

>>82127163
>riot
lol, you're going to be thrown out a window soon.

When Chad plays video games, watches porn and does nothing else it's because he's living in the moment and enjoying life's simple pleasures. He is akin to an enlightened monk; above ambition as a determinant of self worth.

When you play video games, watch porn and do nothing else you are depressed, anti-social and should be put into a labor camp. You are actively destroying society and need therapy, psychiatry and to touch grass.

>>82126440 (OP)
take the woman vote away and make the workforce a man thing again and i'll consider. i'm not saying women can't work, just make it so women aren't really supposed to be the workers, that way people can actually raise a family off a single income

>>82135896
OP wasn't being sarcastic anon I think you're just taking it that way because you agree with Republican Senator Josh Hawley.
They're coming after your video games and your neetbux, and you voted for it.

>>82126440 (OP)
No pussy no work.
No pussy no taxes.
No pussy no draft.

This isn't my problem, I enjoy video games.
This is their problem.

Society hating on men once again. What else is new

>>82134586
It's the same mentality of the people who are against student debt forgiveness. "Fuck you, I did it, so you should have to." And in the case of women, we give them the ick, so that's why they also think it's bad. If we're going to be giving them the ick, the least we can do is flip burgers as well

>>82126450
it's about guaranteeing cheap labor for the rich
hence why they do this rhetoric (while allowing rampant discrimination against the long-term unemployed) instead of, say, a job guarantee

Send me a fucking wife and house first or fuck off faggots.

>>82129209
>conservatism is slavery
Yeah no shit, what did you think it just meant dabbing on le sjws and nothing else? Kek should of read the fine print, retards. You voted for this, no take backs.

>>82136411
there are in fact takebacks. Lenin famously did one, for instance.
Americans are just too spineless these days.

>>82126440 (OP)
Show me something for it other than disinterest or contempt, femoid. My commitment isn't a given anymore than yours is. If men are dropping out of work/responsibility in droves to the point that it's becoming a statistical issue that both people are mentioning across the political spectrum, then maybe there's a problem that will require a more complex solution than wagging your finger.

>>82136411
US is fully run and owned by progressives. The fact our far left leader wears a [color] tie instead of [color] tie changes nothing about the reality. Conservativism is never going to happen in our lifetime. It was tried once before, but it led to prosperity. So now we are stuck with more laws, more immigrants, more surveillance, and more and higher taxes. For some reason the monoparty always agrees on these issues. Progress until the whole system collapses under its weight. Worry not, those at the top have golden parachutes already prepared.

>>82136134
>and you voted for it
I didnt doe

>>82126450
republicans are about fucking kids while screeching trans people are THE REAL PEDOPHILES as they pass laws to fuck literal children

republicans are literal fucking demons in human flesh

https://www.sltrib.com/news/politics/2025/08/04/heres-what-utah-law-says-about/

"But the new law carved out a narrow exception for 18-year-olds who are still enrolled in high school and have sex with 13-year-olds who despite not being able to legally consent agree to the activity.

Instead of the first-degree felony that an 18-year-old who has graduated would face, prosecutors now can charge them with a third-degree felony."

it's funny how they think we're choosing this

>>82136558
You forgot the part where you have to be eighteen to post on this board.

Boomer republicans ruined the country.

>>82136575
>bringing up trannies out of nowhere
dilate and kys faggot just because I hate republicans doesn't mean I'm going to start liking you

>>82132678
Solution?
Do I even have to say it?

>>82137006
Do you think hitler would just allow you to sit around and jerk off to loli and play video games all day retard?

>>82126440 (OP)
>family
huh?
i work, save, invest, have hobbies and im buying a house.
where is my wife and family?

It's fucking insane to see this habit on 4chan so commonly, on every fucking board it can wriggle into.
You're falling prey to group-grooming by being told someone's directly insulting you. You don't give a flying fuck about that person until one of the fellow board members comes up to pretend to be that bogeyman, and then you fucking flip the blinders on and rage about some fake fucking test of your groupthink.
Eighty fucking billion replies to someone who isn't even real.

>>82137041
Yeah obviously im the whitest aryan so my "job" would be to breed as many foids as possible

>>82126440 (OP)
I can't get a family and I have no country to call my own.

No pussy no work, no pussy no taxes, no pussy no draft

>>82136575
Fucking children. Fucking couches. Fucking the economy. Fucking mother nature to death. It's the Republican way. It's their God given right or some shit to fuck everything over. But God forbid a black woman or queer breathe the wrong way. Can't be having that.

>>82137041
Hitler gave people jobs, houses, and families. These are the very things the current system actively tries to obstruct us from having.

>>82137328
It is a strange time we live in. In the past, fascist regimes, at least to my knowledge, didn't also actively destroy their own economy in the process. Which would make one think that this regime is falling soon. But also, this regime has the biggest military that's ever existed in the history of humanity. So it's not falling to outside force. It will only fall from inside force, but the masses, even though all are being screwed over, don't actually all agree that they're being screwed over. Though I suppose none of these factors truly matter if the military gets together and forms a coup.

>>82137379
>if the military gets together and forms a coup.
It would so kino desu

>>82135061
Nah I see it too. There's a lot of facebook sunglasses-wearing conservative shit here now, on the entire site. Election tourists killed this site and we've been bleeding for a while now. A lot of normalfags too. 90% of threads are >tfwnogf or "femanons", sex, blackpill, cucking, twitter ragebait etc. Go to any mainstream site and you'll see the same shit especially among younger people.

>not good for you
overworking is not good for me either
>your family
what family?
>this country
I don't care

>>82126440 (OP)
This guy works less than half the year and his job involves being bribed by various billionaires and corporations. He is a cretin that should be executed for his crimes against humanity in Palestine and he has the fucking nerve to talk like this.
>MAKE GUILLOTINES GREAT AGAIN

>>82138042
You're talking about bots. This site is infested with the same bots that every other social media website is. there is a solid 50/50 people to not split on most social media.