do you ever think why we are here? where do we go after we die? why our bodies look in this shape? why time exists?

It's just science

>>82168175 (OP)
Read the bible unironically

>>82168183
Science be like "consciousness can be generated through electrical signals" but don't answer when you ask why consciousness is anything at all and why can we feel consciousness

>>82168196
>>82168205
hmph yes

>>82168175 (OP)
>>82168183
It is just science, and virtually everything can be explained by it.
But there's one thing that makes me question reality. Has anyone else ever done this?
I try to imagine the end of my conscience, and I can't do it. I can't comprehend not existing anymore. Physically sure, my body is going to die. What about the true self though?

I first ran into this wall when I tried to just comprehend living another life. I allowed myself to slip into the concept of my consciousness carrying on after I'm gone. I wouldn't be aware of it, I would just exist as someone else. Not reincarnation, but just... continuation.

I don't know, I'm probably not making sense.

>>82168218
Something else that really makes my head feel weird is trying to imagine someone else's consciousness. Actually shift yourself into their brain and feel that. See through their eyes, feel what they would be feeling.

Trying to imagine being another consciousness really highlights how weird the entire thing is conceptually.

>>82168218
>Not reincarnation, but just... continuation
ah so like you'd just possess some random schmo, instead of being reborn?

>>82168229
No. I would just be born again. And experience life all over again as someone else. I guess it is reincarnation, there just wouldn't be any kind of connection beyond the stream of perceiving reality, even if I would be experiencing it as an entirely new person.

>>82168237
so you wouldn't just take over an existing person? You'd just be reborn, simple as that so just a reincarnation? That is pretty boring and unoriginal. Ironically, me misunderstanding what you said originally was far more interesting from you just summarizing reincarnation in your own perspective.

Yes. I solved it. We arent very meaningful. All we do is try to make sense. That is sapience. The attempt. And we use a bunch of lazy shortcuts and conditioning to do it. The brain matures slowly to consider its social circumstances. Whats edible, what gets you kicked out of the group etc. The process of interacting involves something i will artistically call projecting a face. Part of ego but more than that. The face is our sense making apparatus relating things to us. We see things in clouds and stucco paint and the dark for this reason as well as assume others feelings or thoughts. This process is emergent. It is defined by continuity over time. The process of making associatons and determination over time can be emulated by energetic processes and chemical properties. These properties may arise close to the structure of your brain (recurrence) or sufficiently related so as to emulate synapse (boltzmann brain) the universe is very young as well, and you already exist. So this may not be a special occasion as relates to your pattern. Except that it might be first. And at the end if there is a crunch, any old differential equation could ride those differentials for miles. So there are no guarantees either way.

>>82168175 (OP)
I have answered most of the big questions, at least for myself. I almost never get existential now. Most of the time I'm worrying about my personal life.

>>82168295
how did you answer them anon?

>>82168282
Well, chasing that thought, it's hard to wrap your mind around that too. At that point that you take someone over, your consciousness would basically just assume a new identity. That's not that different from reincarnation if you think about it, but it does make you wonder where the existing consciousness went. And if that shift could happen without either person being aware of it, does it then matter if it happened at all?

But what I was getting at is more like, what if babies aren't born with a consciousness and you just transfer into the baby when you die. Like leap frog. Again, that's really close to reincarnation, probably just splitting hairs really but I'm just saying it's hard to imagine your consciousness actually ending. It's hard to imagine being nothing.

>>82168301
I applied atheism and Nietzsche's philosophy to them all

>>82168335
well explain it

>>82168306
I'm doing such a shit job explaining the feeling this gives.
Try to imagine experiencing another life in first-person.
It makes me feel separate from my body, like the two aren't really connected, just together.
Like I'm just wearing my body right now.
And when I die I'm just going to wear a different one, and not remember this one.
And maybe I've done that before.
Maybe a thousand times.
Maybe I was actually a crawfish at one point.
I really have no fucking idea.
Try to imagine life as a crawfish in first person.
It doesn't feel unnatural. It feels feasible.

>>82168364
>Try to imagine life as a crawfish in first person.
you'd just be zoidberg

>>82168175 (OP)
Yeah I believe in the Roger Penrose cyclic universe theory. Where the big bang happens infinitely after a big crunch. Black holes turn matter into heat. There is no cold death of the universe. everything gets hot inflation stops and deflation happens to the point that everything is squeezed into a big bang and a different universe occurs under the same laws of physics as this one. Hawking radiation basically proves this. Scifags just cannot admit they are wrong. The best part about this theory is quantum immortality. Our own consciousness will be repeated infinitely albeit it will take many crunches to be here again. We are doomed to infinitely post on this faggot board. Hopefully next time the world will be a better place or maybe we will get to be ayy lmaos

>>82168175 (OP)
Two people fucked and had you. We're the sperm that won.
I don't know

>>82168393
so will it be eternal reccurence or will it be with some difference?

>>82168393
>Our own consciousness will be repeated infinitely albeit it will take many crunches to be here again.
so...it's just an endless loop?
So you're basically are gonna post that exact post after you die but when the loop repeats itself?

>>82168409
It would take an unfathomable amount of big bangs and crunches to get to a universe that is identical as this one. The only thing that would be consistent throughout universes is the laws of physics.

>>82168205
Consciousness is the universe observing itself. We are living voices of the cyclic universe. We briefly woke up and wondered why, and this will happen again and again.

>>82168442
Yeah. Pretty much, but maybe we would wake up sooner in a whole different body, maybe not even human. Kinda like reincarnation but without the karma system

>>82168444
Universe confirmed me with sacred trips

>>82168175 (OP)
>why we are here?
Because we were born from seed and egg; someone gave birth to us.
>where do we go after we die?
In a coffin, buried underground. Burnt to ash, placed in a urn. Put on a shelf.
>why out bodies look in this shape?
Evolution. Life existed before and it lead to us.
>why time exists?
"Time" is the measure of the day-night cycle. It's a matter of perception, and anything relating to "time" changing things is merely just wear from repeated action.

Sorry, I have a very dull and boring perception of this world. It's probably why I'm obsessed with art! If this world bores you, why not imagine an exciting one? One without worry, one with divine intention and deep meaning. At least, that's how I think.

>>82168483
>Kinda like reincarnation but without the karma system
That just makes it so nobody has any repercussions or accountability
that's just too on the nose

>>82168516
Yeah. Sometimes I wonder if we are all the same consciousness waking up at a different time and place. Like we are all the universe desperately trying to figure out what it is but it never can. Doomed to exist forever in the purgatorial void.

>>82168346
Okay.

What happens after death?
There is no heaven or hell and we won't experience anything after death. Everything is material, including our conscious experience, which arises from our brain activity. When we die we lose consciousness because of the decomposition of our brain and our body, we decompose into the Earth and are basically recycled back into it. Our material will disperse throughout the planet and be reused by other organisms or exist as a part of the environment through various stages of energy conversion that decomposed flesh will go through, from flesh to food to energy to sperm and back to soil. We'll be converted into various different materials as what was once our body and self is reused by the environment. We will return to the planet a million times over and have already done so.
This will continue forever, unless there's a nuclear war or the sun explodes, rendering life impossible, in which case we'll just stay as inanimate material.

Is there objective morality and what is the meaning of life?
Yes. In any religion, objective morality is defined by the constraints the religion places on followers in order for them to reach heaven and receive god's grace. But in real life there is no god. Following the general logic of religions, objective morality must be defined by the constraints placed on us by reality. This is where I take from Nietzsche. While Nietzsche never directly argued these things, I believe his philosophy implies both. Pre-Christian morals values directly reflected observations of the environment, conflating power with "Good", strength with "nobility", etc. Essentially, that which promoted a successful life was morally "good". To be good was to affirm your life. This dynamic was reversed with Christianity. The poor, the weak, the meek, they came to mean what it meant to be "good". The former morality is the correct way of living and shows us the objective meaning of life: power.

>>82168175 (OP)
No. Nowhere. Reasons.

>>82168205
consciousness is a fundamental force of the universe like gravity it's not gradual

>>82168175 (OP)
i believe in hell and heaven. god i hate how i sound like i'm such a normal faggot.

Its a simulation. The laws maybe different (and probably are, more boring) outside our reality. You don't go anywhere, same as NPC getting killed in video game doesn't go anywhere, just some 1 turns to 0 in some script, code. Thats it.

>>82168175 (OP)
yes but i am too drunk for this right niow also i am in love with you

>>82168175 (OP)
no i don't, ignorance is bliss

>>82168175 (OP)
You may as well be asking yourself "what do i don't know that i don't know?".

To appreciate God's beauty and creations.
We disappear.
Our essence changes form and comes back to where it started. The universe is infinite, and because of this there are infinite copies our existence at every point in our lives, with near-infinite variations of every moment as well.
Our bodies took this shape because it was what allowed our ancestors to reproduce better than other humans.
Without time we could not find meaning. There would be nothing changing, everything static. It is a condition of our minds and a function of our consciousness. To the universe there is no time, all time exists at once, since there are infinite copies of all points in time.

>>82168175 (OP)
yes but i keep myself distracted from these questions because the answers are impossible to get and brings me anguish

Sometimes I wonder if this is a programmed hell, considering some of the content posted here.