Are you tired of losing yet?

>>82168358 (OP)
Awake L will be vanquished

>>82168358 (OP)
What percentage of the tax burden is carried by the poor?
What percentage of the tax burden is carried by the rich?

>>82168358 (OP)
the only reason people voted him in was because he represented white america and everything else was not important to them. just hateful low IQ monkeys

>>82169038
Maybe they are more confident in how Trump is handling the economy compared to Biden

>>82169046
>2021
>cleaning up trump and covid

the "biden's economy sucked" thing is a complete meme, there was a global inflation and the US under biden handled it *significantly* better than the rest of the world. europe, canada had far worse economic downturn in contrast to Biden actually sorta holding it down. biden didn't come into office and hit a big red "INFLATION" button in his desk

>>82169026
That is the price they pay for the privilige of getting rich of the labour of others.

>>82169046
Something I've never seen you talk about
Why did trump tell the saudis to cut oil production right before he left offices?
What happens to everything when oil production decreases?

>>82169026
>the top 50% holds 97.5% of the wealth in the US
>NO THEY SHOULDNT HAVE TO PAY 97.1% OF THE TAXES

>>82168358 (OP)
I'm not poor lmao get fucked

>>82169087
So when the economy sucks in 2021 it is Trumps fault even though Biden is president, but the economy sucks in 2025 because of Trump and not because Biden? Shouldn't the economy sucking in 2025 be Biden's fault by the same logic the economys performance in 2021 was Trumps?

>>82169026
>make $1,000,000 a year
>zero tax breaks you still carry ~650k
>over 15x the median income
so sad, undoubtedly most of them do trickery to get lower taxes anyway

>>82169260
The difference is that Trump isnt dealing with a world wide pandemic that shut down world wide commerce for 6 months and the shortages in resources in the following years. The entire world economy was suffering in 2020-2023, it wasnt exclusive to the US.

Trump is fucking up the US economy all on his own.

>>82169260
Inflation is largely out of the presidents hands and a response to market forces taking place in the world. Even in your graph it shows inflation rising under Trump and eventually going down under Biden. Because we don't have a crystal ball we can't compare how inflation would have been under Trump during the same time period.

We can however directly observe American businesses going bankrupt in real time due to Trumps Tariffs which are something he has direct control of and responsibility for. So it's going to be a bit harder than usual when you faggots need to whip out the old "Blame the Dems" card when the economy tanks due again to Trumps Tarrifs which were unconstitutionally applied by a Republican dominated government that has essentially rubber stamped every gross overreach of federal government authority happening under Trump.

>>82169305
But he was. He was president from January of 2020 when the crisis really started, and in March when it came to a head. He was president up until January 20th of the following year. And during that year Trump was dealing with the crisis not only was there low inflation, there was price declines on things like Apparel, Vehicles, or the price of gasoline. Donald Trump filled the Strategic Petroleum reserve. Joe Biden drained it
There's a reason it is Mike Pence behind Fauci and not Kamala Harris

>>82169328
again, inflation was not exclusive to the US and as far as inflation goes, the US did better under Biden than most western nations.

>>82168358 (OP)
I'm not poor, I do not care
After watching a bunch of episodes of that fat guy podcast where he yells at poor people, I hate the poor

>>82169026
Where is the source for this? Its just blatantly not true. Under 30k don't even pay taxes lol.

>>82169026
Oh I see, this image is actually just manipulative as hell.

>>82169260
Yes, this is the narrative and has been the democrat narrative for the past 20 years.

blue = can do not wrong
red = can only do wrong

>>82169442
>2005 pie chart with no source
lol
also the source is in the image, the Congressional Budget Office. it did a lot more than just cut taxes for the rich. to afford it we had to massively slash benefits for the poor.

>>82169461
or you can stop digging your head in the sand and actually adress the facts of the matter

>>82169467
The original pie chart makes no fucking sense in reality.

the top 1% pay 40%. The top 50(including the 1%) pay 97%. So what exactly was that pie chart attempting to prove? That rich people do in fact pay for the majority of our country?

Because that is the reality.

What percentage of income tax was paid by the bottom 10%?

>"It's your guy's fault not my guys fault"
The thread. Retards that don't know what they're talking about passing the blame back and forth until the thread fucking dies. What a snooze fest.

>>82169475
>hat rich people do in fact pay for the majority of our country?
The top 50% also holds 97.5% of the wealth in the US, that they pay 97.1% of the taxes is just.
https://usafacts.org/articles/who-owns-american-wealth/

>>82169471
The facts of the matter being that debt pays for the majority of our government but that also the rich pay for the majority of collected taxes?

You do realize that America has a progressive tax already? Its only logical that the rich pay far more in taxes.

>>82169483
So half the country owns almost all the wealth. Not bad. Shame that some of the bottom 50 are men when in a just world that bottom 50 should all be unemployed houswives. You know, because women shouldn't be allowed to work.

>>82169484
>Its only logical that the rich pay far more in taxes.
I dont disagree?

>>82169477
The reality
The economy was great under Trumps first term until covid
The economy was shit under Bidens first term
The economy has not recovered or returned to the levels of Trumps first term under Trumps second term.

>>82169492
So you agree that the top 50% pays their fair share of taxes as it currently stands, paying 97.1% of the taxes and sits on 97.5% of all the wealth?

>>82169500
That wasn't a moral argument, I believe in a flat tax rate. It was just an observable fact that you're trying to pretend isn't real. The concept that the rich aren't currently paying more in taxes than the collective poor.


Objectively a flat tax rate would be simple and eliminate tax loop holes. its really that easy.

>>82169512
Yes. You're chart is just retarded and makes no sense. My chart here >>82169442 is much better and gives you a more clear picture(also sourced from BLM I believe, I don't remember, I saved it years ago and the level of discourse here as fallen so low I don't even bother doing any more in depth research. I'm too tired.

>>82169519
A flat tax rate would just shift the burden over to the middle class.

>>82168358 (OP)
I'm just waiting for poor people to stop voting for politicians who pass legislation that benefits rich folk. All you have to do is jangle the "strong Christian values" and the "brown people are bad" keys in front of Americans and they will empty their pockets out for you.

>>82169551
No?
It would just equally split the burden
You make 100 dollars you pay 10
You make a million you pay 100k
The rich will still be funding the majority of the government.

>>82169568
Imagine actually believing your vote actually matters when a rich person pays 40% of a politicians income and you pay 0.0002%

>>82169700
Votes would matter a lot more if the country had a voter participation rate higher than roughly 50%. But yeah we have to repeal Citizens United v. FEC, ban gerrymandering, remove the filibuster, remove the electoral college, and stop talking to Israel. It's a broken democracy.

>>82168358 (OP)
The super rich are poor at fiscal budgeting? And have been for generations?

>>82169318
Yeah the President doesn't decide spending he just signs off on it. The House of Representatives has the Power of the Purse
Which party was in control of The House of Representatives after January 20th, 2021 as President Joe Biden came into office?

>>82169719
Its not a democracy and good thing its not because people like you are retarded. You should join the 80% of people that don't vote.

>>82169851
>good thing its not
This sounds suspiciously like you are anti-democratic. CCP spy detected.

I think we need an anti rich people movement that somehow is not divisive and pretty much everyone agrees on. Honestly I think there needs to be some serious quasi revolutionary movements and worker strikes. I give it less than 10 years for robot police at that point the plebs are fucked with the current political oligarchy system and concentration of wealth. There needs to be a movement for some kind of direct democracy or even power over the police/military democratically very strange times indeed. I just dont see how people will be able to rebel once the tech is sufficiently advanced. There is a small window now for change and if it closes the world is done for

>>82169026
Oh, won't someone think of the poor richies

Your long nosed nature is showing, miga nigga