Antinatalism thread: winning without even trying edition.

Why create suffering where there is none?

whats the difference between antinatalism and eugenics

>>82172456 (OP)
This is retarded because eventually a more intelligent life form will arise and the cycle with continue.
>Muh we must sterilize earth of life
You have no concept of beauty and you're a nihilistic teenager

>>82172469
>the cycle with [sic] continue
more reason to sterilize earth of life actually
Not even an antinatialist but you're a bad arguer

>>82172482
The future is Mormon
Cope and seethe

>>82172482
>le arguer
Illiterate little insects like you should definitely not breed.

>>82172507
Ad hominem attack, just because you don't like the deliverer of the message or the format doesn't detract from its truth
>>82172491
Mormons live in the Salt Lake Valley
That place smells like a giant butthole
Once you smell it, you can't un-smell it

>>82172469
I'm not talking about some universal plan, just my decision to create joy (life in its most basic form, wormfood) over suffering (complex human life).

>>82172526
>bad blominem, dad dominem, shmad momoinem
Oh look it knows wikipedia words. Its reached the angry teenage le heckin intellectual level.

>>82172546
Furthermore, "Illiterate little insects like you should definitely not breed." implies that you accept the precepts of the original argument, meaning you're just sort of seething right now

>>82172557
>No u mad not me I not mad! Reductio ad leviosa!
You'll cringe at yourself when you hit your 20s.

>>82172775
The desperate need to feel mature is the most immature feeling in the world, kid.

>>82172456 (OP)
The thing is it seems like the more chudded up nations are dealing with even lower birth rates (Like Hungary and Poland) over say the more libtarded ones.

>>82172456 (OP)
If goyim don't reproduce who will elites rape and sacrifice to Moloch?

>>82172840
Directionbrain is an online disease. The disease of our age probably.

>>82172456 (OP)
living is an active choice, you are actively choosing to suffer instead of choosing the logical option and checking out of this life

>>82172456 (OP)
the easiest way to refute an antinatalist's arguments is to tell them to kill themselves.
if they don't, then they clearly see value in life since they refuse to give theirs up.

>>82172981
But someone has to clean it up and =that's awful=
It is best to let life continue but not make more

>>82173013
the cleanup crew has to do their job regardless, if its not you then its always someone else

>>82172937
It's not a choice. It's a challenge. And it's too much for me. Maybe if I had access to guns, I'd think otherwise. As for the life being worth perpetuating, it's a spectrum rather than a binary choice. And right now it's not leaning in a direction favorable to it.

>>82172981
>if they don't, then they clearly see value in life
Not enough value to recommend it to anyone else though. A small amount of value, brought about by inertia and life's strong safeguards against suicide.

Although, this conversation got me thinking. What if life is good enough on its own, but awful when you have kids? It sure seems that way for many people.

Also, I'm sure at least some antinatalists kill themselves. Does that make them right?

>>82173165
perhaps for them but I dont imagine they can speak for all humanity when they say life is suffering

Antinatalism is just an example of someone with 80iq trying very hard to break into the highest tiers of awareness but being unable to take the last few steps, being stuck on meaningless noise.

>>82173233
Then it's a lose lose when the argument is that the antinatalist should kill themselves. It's more of a gotcha than an argument, but I guess that was obvious from the get-go.

>>82173270
No it's not. Quit larping, it's beyond boring after so much /pol/ schizo garbage gets constantly spammed online.

>>82172456 (OP)
You need a woman to breed with.
I don't want to pass on subpar genes

>>82173533
This. At the end of the day, it's less antinatalism and more self-imposed eugenics. If you're some rich gigachad go ahead and breed, but I'm not gonna make it my life mission to bring some child into a life of relative poverty and shitty genes.

>>82172456 (OP)
2 people populated the entire planet. Adam and Eve
Shut up about fake fertility crisis

>>82173593
Retards and the unserious trolls take anti-natalism as us giving a fuck about you choosing to breed. If you want kids, can afford them, will be a good parent then by all means have children and have a happy family. Not everyone shares that sentiment and not everyone deserves to have a kid.

>>82173597
>2 people populated the entire planet. Adam and Eve
No they didn't, fuck off cultist.

>>82172467
At least from my perspective, I'm not a eugenicist because if I had a magic wand I'd just make every human sterile whereas a eugenicist would only make certain humans sterile.

>>82172469
>Muh we must sterilize earth of life
This, but without a hint of irony.

Humans are on the way out. AI is on the way in. Goodbye, meatbags!