Would you fuck a married woman if you could get away with it? She wants dick on the side and if you won't fuck her, someone else will. So what's so bad about it?

The logical fallacy you're referring to is commonly known as the "tu quoque" fallacy in some contexts, but more precisely in your case, it's best categorized as a "preventive justification" or a form of "moral licensing" and more technically, it's a type of consequentialist reasoning with a self-serving bias that can fall under the broader umbrella of rationalization or "appeal to futility".

But most precisely, the fallacy you are describing aligns with:

The "If I don't do it, someone else will" fallacy
This is a specific type of:

Appeal to inevitability
Appeal to consequences
Rationalization

This fallacy occurs when someone justifies unethical or harmful behavior by arguing that the action will happen anyway and therefore, they might as well benefit from it. The logic is:
"If someone is going to do this bad thing anyway, I might as well be the one to do it so I can benefit."

This reasoning is flawed because:
It abdicates personal responsibility.
It assumes inevitability without evidence.
It contributes to the harmful outcome rather than preventing it.

Examples of "If I don't, someone else will" fallacy:
Corruption: "If I don't take the bribe, someone else will." -> Fuels systemic abuse.
Environmental harm: "If we don't exploit it, a competitor will." -> Speeds ecological collapse.
Labor exploitation: "We must underpay or lose out." -> Normalizes worker abuse.
Data misuse: "Others harvest data, why not us?" -> Undermines privacy and trust.
Insider trading: "They're doing it and winning." -> Corrupts financial systems.
Academic dishonesty: "Everyone copies a little." -> Devalues learning.
Littering: "One more won't matter." -> Contributes to collective harm.

>>82181796 (OP)
Because I wouldn't want my partner one day to cheat on someone so I won't do it myself either. Plus, cheating is pos behaviour for either gender. I don't care if someone else does it, that's on them for being a pos.

>>82181796 (OP)
its already a broken marriage if the women is fucking dudes on the side

because her husband is fucking other women

>>82181839
I feel like this poster may be an LLM. Doesn't matter though, these are absolute facts.

Appreciate you bb

>>82181796 (OP)
I've cheated with every bf I've ever had and frankly I do not see the problem. I still fuck my bf, I make sure he never finds out and so all three people involved get what they want. If you fuck up and let your bf/gf find out then yeah it makes sense they're pissed, but if you can keep it secret what is the rational argument for not cheating?

>>82181877
>do not see the problem
That's because you are a room temperature slut and a sociopath. It's all good, Hell awaits

>what is the rational argument for not cheating?
Unwanted pregnancy
STDs
Trust
Pair bonding

Why even be in a "committed" relationship in the first place you fucking whore?

>>82181796 (OP)
No. Cheating is a disgusting betrayal of your partner's trust in you..

>>82181877
It really messes up intimacy, I have never cheated and felt good about myself afterwards. I don't get how men can have entire separate families being bad makes me feel too guilty

>>82181877
At that point just say you want an open relationship or something. what's the point of lying to the guy. he is probably trusting you and you do shit like this.

Cheating is one of those stuff that never has a justification. Either leave or ask them for open relationship and then leave if they don't want it. Literally no point in being with someone and lying to them you are their only partner but also cheating. It's just at that point doing it for your own pleasure

>>82181877
Why do you cheat? Is the sex better with guys you cheat with?

>>82181895
>That's because you are a room temperature slut and a sociopath. It's all good, Hell awaits
Not really, I'm quite nice. Also I'm not religious so that last part doesn't bother me.

>Unwanted pregnancy
Only idiots get pregnant, but if you do fuck up there are pills/abortion.
>STDs
Never got one, this seems to only be a problem for gay guys and minorities frankly.
>Trust
Okay fine, but from his perspective the trust is completely secure anyway.
>Pair bonding
Not really a thing. Religious weirdos who shack up at 18 and have ten kids together go on about this, but normal people don't think in these terms. Relationships should be mutually beneficial and the 'pair bonding' aspect is very animalistic rather than reasonable.

>>82181910
That's fair, I don't think everyone should, I'm just saying it's never been a thing for me. I don't feel guilty because nobody is unhappy.

>>82181927
You can like someone very much but also want other things on the side to scratch certain itches.

>>82181929
Mostly yeah, but other times might just be bored.

>>82181796 (OP)
I did it several times, I wouldn't really recommend doing it. One time I got threatened and stalked by her husband.

>>82181877
Hope you end up like this >>82178067

>>82181839
>It abdicates personal responsibility.
As it should be when one has no influince over outcome
>It assumes inevitability without evidence.
Okay, but presume she's hot and shows you evidence of the 10 other men willing to fuck her?
>It contributes to the harmful outcome rather than preventing it.
It doesn't. The harmful outcome is inevitable. You're literally just denying reality.

>"If I don't take the bribe, someone else will." -> Fuels systemic abuse.
It depends on if you know someone else will or not. Otherwise, you're just letting yourself get cucked by a corrupt system anyway.
>Environmental harm: "If we don't exploit it, a competitor will." -> Speeds ecological collapse.
This is just capitalism. If you don't exploit it, a competitor will destroy your business. This is why we need laws that stop everybody from doing it.
>Labor exploitation: "We must underpay or lose out." -> Normalizes worker abuse.
Similar deal but not quite. This is why we have laws and unions. Workers and business owners have an unresolvable conflict of interest. But also, this isn't even an equal outcome. If you pay your employees well, then YOUR employees benefit.
>Data misuse: "Others harvest data, why not us?" -> Undermines privacy and trust.
This is different, too. If multiple companies harvest data, then your data is in more places. It's not like there is an equal outcome.
>Academic dishonesty: "Everyone copies a little." -> Devalues learning.
If you're not using AI in academia in 2025, you're cucking yourself. And "learning" that can be replicated with an AI is about as useful as the math without a calculator meme. It should be devalued. So, this issue is a little more complex.
>Littering: "One more won't matter." -> Contributes to collective harm
One more will matter, though. It's usually not THAT big a deal, but again, this is why we have 100 dollar fines for littering.

You're blaming individuals for systemic issues, which makes me think you're hateful. Are u?

>>82181956
Trust is not a one-sided thing though.

>You can like someone very much but also want other things on the side to scratch certain itches.

In that case ask them for an open relationship and take accountability. Otherwise as I said, at this point it's just you getting pleasure from the act of cheating itself

>>82182047
> Why shouldn't I break into and steal this apartment, someone else will since it doesn't have good security measures
> Why shouldn't I rob this person, these streets are unsafe so someone else will likely rob them
> Why shouldn't I kill this person, there is a fair chance someone else might since we live in a high-crime neighbourhood

>>82182047
>>82181839
Not that I would have sex with her, I mean. I just think the "if I don't do it, someone else will" is a valid way of thinking when someone else actually will and you can't stop them.

>>82182012
If that's your honest reaction to what I'm saying you're deranged. Wanting someone to be brutally murdered for sleeping around is a very over the top reaction, even if you think it's a bad thing to do.

>>82182052
>Trust is not a one-sided thing though.
Imagine you live your life married to a woman who you trust completely. Then she dies and it comes out she cheated on you every week for your entire marriage. You still 'trusted' her, because trust is based on our perception of reality. I'm not an idiot, so I don't get caught. From my bf's perspective I am a completely trustworthy person.
>In that case ask them for an open relationship and take accountability. Otherwise as I said, at this point it's just you getting pleasure from the act of cheating itself
I don't want an open relationship, those are just weird to be honest. I do get pleasure out of cheating, that's why I do it. I don't organise my life around it though, it's just something nice to do every now and then.

>>82181956
>I'm not religious so that last part doesn't bother me.
Hell burns the Atheist the same as anyone else

>Only idiots get pregnant
What is the primary biological function of sex, you mong?

>pills/abortion
Which I hope your boyfriend finds the evidence of.

>only be a problem for gay guys and minorities frankly.
Ah yes, because no straight white people have ever gotten chlamydia

>from his perspective the trust is completely secure anyway.
Your boyfriend decides to go shit talk you to people you know, fuck another girl, and sell some shit that you own and claims it's stolen. You don't know he did it though, so it's all good, yeah?

>Not really a thing
I would point to (You) as a specific example of it being true

And again, why be in a "committed" relationship in the first place if you're going to fuck off on him? Just shack up with another retard that wants an open relationship.

>>82182078
Ah so if a rapist or a murder doesn't get caught and everyone around them believes they are a good person who would never do that, then that's fine?

>>82181956
>Mostly yeah
How is the sex better? In what way? Is it the forbidden fruit feeling?

>>82182087
>Hell burns the Atheist the same as anyone else
Okay.
>What is the primary biological function of sex, you mong?
Obviously I meant unwanted pregnancies you retard.
>Which I hope your boyfriend finds the evidence of.
Haven't got pregnant yet, no evidence to find.
>Ah yes, because no straight white people have ever gotten chlamydia
Risk is very, very low.
>Your boyfriend decides to go shit talk you to people you know, fuck another girl, and sell some shit that you own and claims it's stolen. You don't know he did it though, so it's all good, yeah?
If I don't know he did it literally how could I feel betrayed?
>I would point to (You) as a specific example of it being true
No? I'm saying it's not real, you're saying it is, the burden of proof is on you to positively show it is a thing.
I get the sense you're just not very bright.

>>82182093
No, because the person he raped or murdered suffered greatly. When I cheat and don't get caught literally nobody suffers.

>>82182098
Sex can just be better with some people than others. My bf is fine, but other men are better at sex. Forbidden fruit feeling is sort of a thing, but only a bit, mostly just the actual physical experience.

>>82182072
>Why shouldn't I break into and steal this apartment, someone else will since it doesn't have good security measures
Alright, but do you KNOW that? If you know that someone else is going to break in and steal and won't come in after you to take more and wouldn't have taken more than you, then sure, it's fine to break in. Same outcome.
>Why shouldn't I rob this person, these streets are unsafe so someone else will likely rob them
Because 1. You could go to jail or get hurt or they could get hurt. It's not even worth it. And 2, you don't know that someone else will work up the nerve to rob them. It's a completely different situation.
> Why shouldn't I kill this person, there is a fair chance someone else might since we live in a high-crime neighbourhood
Again, if you don't kill them, then they live a longer life and it's just a fair chance they get killed. You can't guarantee the same or similar outcome, especially when the stakes are much higher than something as silly and short lived as having sex once. With the married woman, unless she's lying to you, you can be fairly certain she's going to cheat and ruin herself on just as many men. The question is if you want to be the one to fuck her and get STDs or not.

>>82182143
Yeah but what makes them better at sex? Why not train your bf to be better at sex?

I am beginning to suspect this is just some anon baiting

>>82182154
Some people are just better, no matter how much you 'train' your bf/gf to fuck better.

>>82182166
Kinda sad if that's the case but I guess your bf won't be hurt if he doesn't find out.

>>82182158
Maybe she has childhood trauma? She sounds unhappy

>>82181796 (OP)
I would not.
I would tell her husband about it.
I might want sex but I would not do such a gross thing.
>>82181877
Obvious bait is obvious.

>>82182143
>meant unwanted pregnancies
Yes, and sex makes babies you fuckin ape. That is the exclusive reason it exists in nature.

>Haven't got pregnant yet
Operative word is "yet." You're having sex because of your hormonal desires, at some point whatever disgusting fuck you cheat on your boyfriend with will convince you that it feels better without the condom, and you'll end up with someone's bastard in your belly.

>Risk is very, very low
Not when you fuck strangers

>how could I feel betrayed?
So because you don't know something bad happened, it doesn't matter? Do you understand the concept of object permanence?

>saying it's not real, you're saying it is
There is a direct negative correlation between the likelihood of success and satisfaction in a relationship and the number of previous sexual partners that both members have had.

Also, I've noticed that you keep avoiding my last question. Let me fill in the gaps.

You have attached yourself like a parasite to some poor sucker so that he will fund your hedonistic lifestyle while you steal from him. Yes - steal - because you are actively lying to him about your commitment. You have nothing inherently valuable about yourself and are unable to produce for society and as such you can't afford to live on your own but you have too much pride to sell your ass on the street corner like the nasty fucking whore you are and instead pretend on being normal and well adjusted by abusing a naive young man. Have I missed anything?

>>82181796 (OP)
Someone else probably wouldn't but I did it once and it made it all the more exciting.
The married woman in question too enjoyed being reminded that it was infidelity as it was going on.

>>82182284
Some women get married just to have better sex on the side. It's evil and they know it's evil but it makes the sex so much better because of the taboo. I've fucked over 20 married women and they all came hard on my cock.

>>82182298
>I've fucked over 20 married women and they all came hard on my cock.
Sure you have buddy, and let me guess, Albert Einstein stood up at the end and clapped?

God I want my girlfriend to cheat on me...
Unironically, I recognize that I have a bit of a twisted fetish

>>82181839
Cheating is mutual abdication of responsibility. It's not just you.

>>82182327
>God I want my girlfriend to cheat on me...
Can you explain why?

>>82181796 (OP)
I have married women at work who flirt with me all the time. I do nothing about it because I don't want my other male coworkers to make my life a living hell for being attractive. Playing with envy is really bad at work I just want my money and to go home. Ignoring those women saved me issues. Men get ape-like when theres only one semi attractive woman around, the bravado is turned up to 10 and it's a sad sight.

>>82181796 (OP)
she is probably not a nice person if she does things like that and life is so much easier when you avoid not nice people

>>82182346
Oh I am totally aware that my fetish stems fundamentally from my own deep insecurities. By fetishizing it I in a sense 'gain control' over it. So yeah, I want to see my gf getting absolutely fucking railed by other guys because it allows me to alleviate the burden of responsibility in pleasing her and fetishize my own insecurities to derive pleasure from it.

>>82181796 (OP)
There was one situation like this. The gf of one of my friends at the time tried to hook up with me but I told her to fuck off because I was disgusted that she would even attempt something like that.
He wasn't some random guy, she knew we were friends.
And then, before I could even tell him, she already fucked another one of his friends ONE day later lol.
I'm glad I didn't do it, associating with people like this will fuck up your life.

>>82181796 (OP)
I would record the conversation and not have sex
Then I would go to her husband

>>82181796 (OP)
I'd spare the husband a lot of effort and honor kill the whore myself.

>>82181796 (OP)
It kind of depends on whether I hate her husband or not.

>>82182352
This is why I've never been friends with other men in my entire life, all it takes is a single cuntoid to ruin the entire friendship
All of a sudden, the person you thought you were close to is putting you down and insulting you to make themselves seem more appealing to the cunt, and the cunt eats it up because women are literal demons sustained by evil.

>>82181839
>It abdicates personal responsibility.
How is that relevant?

>It assumes inevitability without evidence.
It is assumed by the hypothetical so this is also irrelevant

>It contributes to the harmful outcome rather than preventing it.
It can't be prevented

Informal logic slop

>>82181796 (OP)
Yes OP I will