I don't hate anyone besides women
Even niggers are okay

>>82197898 (OP)
I don't even hate trannies and find myself feeling bad for them. I do hate commies though.

>>82197898 (OP)
Can I ask what you hate us anon? Often I think men feel this way out of jealousy or something because of the easier attention/sex that they get, they are mad that women can get something that men have to put effort into that women don't.

>>82198363
not op but it's the entitlement and victim complex paired with the many advantages women have in the west that men simply don't

>>82198394
>entitlement and victim complex
Don't forget zero sense of accountability.

>>82198363
Shitty attitudes, divorce rapes. After a while it wears you down if you're not careful. Women are children, mentally

>>82198363
Entitlement
Narcissism
Pushing for equality but refusing to give up female privileges
Immune to criticism and use that to openly hate on men and say vile shit about men and especially about incels
Despite that you act like you don't care about men at all and are better off without us, so why hate on incels in the first place? Incels stay out of your life just like you want them to, but that's not enough because all men must either simp for you or they are not allowed to even exist

>>82198394
>>82198426
>>82198550
You guys didn't post "tits or gtfo" or "sharpie in pooper." You're part of the problem, or would be if it was actually a woman

>>82198550
>>82198426
>>82198406
>>82198394
But these are on online spaces or the far left, this isn't every woman. I agree that women who group all men into their hatred of criminals/abusers etc need classes in diplomacy and further education but at the same time, this isn't all women and it's actually not a majority.

I think that If they stop pushing for anything, things could go backwards very easily to how it was when women didn't have what are considered basic human rights and I understand why they don't want this to happen, especially with trump removing some discrimination protections that women face in healthcare and careers, if we are speaking on USA specifically.

Just remember to not listen to what twitter spits out because not all women feel this way, but the growth in hatred toward women will drive them further away from liking men and being more concerned for their safety which I think will probably show an increase in them acting like victims out of fear. Men can be pretty scary, you guys know that from the countless death threats posted on places like 4chan towards women.

I do think many men also should be educated and be more open minded as to why women may feel a certain way, maybe even classes on showing empathy if it does not come naturally to them based on some of their colder up bringings.

I can see both sides, I can see why you'd get bitter if you keep seeing stupid people posting about how men are the bad guys all the time which pisses you off...but think about it this way, women are physically weaker than men, but the majority of them are also less physically harmful to you. The worst that can happen when women hate men is that they talk shit online or to eachother about you...Do I need to spell out how much worse it is when men HATE women and how much more harmful the result of this has shown to be time and time again?

Isn't it better to just show women that they're wrong about you guys and you're actually decent/good people?

>>82198625
>just be a nice guy cuck
LOL no thanks

>>82198694
That just shows that youve got some deep seeded issues when it comes to being nice because you see kindness as 'weakness'. I always found it's easier to have a 'not give a fuck' attitude and it shows strength and intelligence to be more introspective and actually try to see things from others points of view.

>>82198625
How am I threatening to foids when I haven't interacted with one in months? I want to be left the fuck alone and they will stay say how ALL men are evil pieces of shit. What the fuck did I ver do to you? You keep poking the bear. One day it will be talk shit, get hit.

>>82198712
Thats not at all what he said. Hes saying that he is going to be taken advantage of.
You are wildly hypocritical talking about seeing things from others perspectives. You are repeating tired talking points in irrelevant circumstances because its easier than listening. Reading what you say is incredibly demoralizing.

>>82198712
I'm saying that women will say they like nice guys, but then dump them for being too boring so they can go get impregnated by abusechad. It doesn't pay at all to be a betabuxx bitch women will not reward you for that

>>82198721
You specifically might not be, but I was talking about as a collective mens hatefulness is actually harmful, i'm sure youre smart enough to understand that.
...but phrases like
>One day it will be talk shit, get hit.

Won't help your case. I think it's more important to not join in to all of the stupid hatred, you can be annoyed, but decided to HATE something is a choice, and you siding with that is more harmful than not and you may not realize it, but hatred like that can be harmful for your life too. Holding on to hatred is never good for anyone in the end. My perspective on it is 'Oh you hate me?, that's pretty dumb I never did anything, I just exist here and try and be nice to people' but men in this thread say they actively hate women, I never did anything...but do I HATE men as a collective for that, or even HATE you guys? No I don't because we're all just fucking people and what the internet spouts doesn't define me or my beliefs. I still think many of you guys are good people and I honestly think a lot of you don't WANT to feel hatred towards anyone you just want to live your life and be free. Just don't put people in a box because you read something online or see something in the media about it, you're an individual that can choose to think about it yourself and not women as a collective.

>>82198794
Dumbass, everyone knows that not ALL women are that way. But statistics show that a majority ARE that way. Not all women are vapid bitches in the same way that not all dogs like red meat

>>82198769
>>just be a nice guy cuck
>LOL no thanks

This is all he said, i read what he said and he did not say that he is scared of being taken advantage of. If that is actually the case and you guys don't want to be nice to people because you're worried you'll be taken advantage of, the best thing to do is rise above being a shithead and also set boundaries for yourself so you can dip out if someone tries to take you for a ride. There's a balance that needs to be found, being an asshole and hating women as a whole will not be helpful. Come on now.

>>82198822
Unfortunately no, not everyone actually sees in that way. It's like hot women will say statistically men are more harmful than women and cause more death/SA and then people will take those stats and run with them to hate on all men as a whole, that's the whole point of the discussion here, people are mad that many women do that, and men will actively say 'I HATE ALL WOMEN BECAUSE THEY ARE ALL LIKE THIS'

it's true, some people don't think of these things on an individual basis because of the internet.

>>82198712
thanks DR. K!
I'll be sure to purchase your self-help books.

>>82197898 (OP)
What about simps and troons, anon? Don't you hate those things?

>>82198849
You're conflating "the majority of murders and rapists are men" with "the majority of men are rapists and murderers". Not possible with a study showing that women see 80% of men as below average. We're talking about real studies that are representative samples of women as a whole

>>82198878
Idk I guess I just wish peoples first reaction wasn't to hate eachother and we could prove eachother wrong and both the men and women that spout that stuff could look like bigger dummies for putting a whole sex into a box and brewing bitterness causing more harm to themselves in the end.

That's all I wanted to express, even if I annoy you guys in the process.

>>82198910
I never conflicted that, I know the majority of men do not commit rape/murder, my point was that many women take those stats and run with them as if it were 80% of men committing these crimes.

>Not possible with a study showing that women see 80% of men as below average.
This was just some stats from some OKCupid survey I could bite back with the stats from the exact same survey showing that 80% of messages sent from women were also to men rated as average or lower.

>>82197909
the venn diagram of trannies and commies is nearly a circle

>>82198951
There are countless damning statistics on women that are not from okcupid but reputable sources. Women initiating majority of divorces, double the number of single young men than women, etc. And pretty much every guy I've talked to has the same loved experience on dating apps where even ugly women all are matching with the top 20% of men. And don't say "oh that's just dating apps" because the majority of new couples meet on dating apps these days"

>>82199128
>ever guy i've talked to
anecdotal.

Why are you being all 'tit for tat' this isn't productive and you're just doing what the guys here are claiming they hate women for.

All I hear is that you would prefer that women stay in relationships that make them unhappy, and should be forced date people that they don't think are right for them because it makes men feel better?

I'm sorry more guys are single but it's not really as if that's something to hate women for. Imagine if unattractive women hated you because you only gave the prettiest women a chance, you wouldn't really feel bad for them either, especially if they were whining at you saying you dating pretty women is why they are committing suicide. It's just an odd thing to harbor anger about from many people's POV.

>>82199236
It's not about wanting women to stay in relationships where they are unhappy, it's about the fact that so many women are seemingly unhappy to just be with an average looking guy who loves them.
More guys are single because women are dating the same chads and then complaining about how there are no good men whilst ignoring 80% of men.

>>82199236
>average looking guy who loves them
This is not based on fact, the men they divorced could have been beautiful and they could divorce them for any number of reasons.

If we look at it this way, we also have to ask why men are statistically more likely to cheat on their women? The 'average looking men that love their wives' aren't happy either, yet they appear to be the the ones that are less likely to leave their marriages despite breaking their martial vows. We also know for a fact their partner cheating is one of the reasons women would initiate a divorce in the first place. See what I did there? We could go at this all day and yet it won't solve anything because the fact of the matter is some men are shitty and some women are shitty but we can focus on the good people that don't do shitty things to eachother instead of the shitheads that do.

>>82199307
Meant to reply to you not myself.
>>82199465

>>82198363
Hating women is like hating jews.
It's the only rational conclusion you can arrive at after reading all the data and arguments and the only thing people can say to defend women is "uh, that's just how they are deal with it" as if "that's just how men are" was ever accepted as an argument for male anti social behavior.

>>82199465
Most women are bad. Some men are bad. But you will never be able to admit that because you are a delusional vagina-haver. So much arguing to avoid the smallest shred of accountability

>>82199601
Talking outta your ass bud

>>82199645
>Most women are bad
because you say it so it must be true, right anon. Your argument is no better than that of women that claim most men are bad. It holds no ground. Face it you're just a hateful person with biases that you don't want to look past.

>>82199662
They're bad because they treat me bad it's really that simple and yes that's anecdotal but my life is the only one I can experience so for all intents and purposes for me all women are bad

>>82199465
lmao it's the
>uh...women only divorce so much because secretly married men are cheating on women in such massive numbers!
meanwhile the divorce rate for gay men is like 30% and divorce rate for lesbians is 70%. It's not men that are the problem.

>>82198625
>But these are on online spaces or the far left, this isn't every woman.
Anon, I've had plenty of experiences in real life with women from different walks of life. I don't give a shit about your left/right dichotomy from US politics brainrot. Though there is a lot of individual variability in personalities, women, at their core, are mostly the same. That is, they are: transactional, judgmental, low on empathy and less strong and less capable than men... Mentally, physically and emotionally.

In my heart of hearts I've attempted to see and treat them as equals and I've only gotten punished for it.

>>82198694
This. Never take advice about women from women.

>>82199702
I didn't say cheating was the ONLY reason, you should re-read what I said. I said it counts as ONE of the reasons, and at the end I said 'see what I did there' because the argument was full of nit picking at statistics to see who was worse than the other and I was trying to show that neither are worse than the other and context always matters when it comes to statistics not just what story your imaginations turns it into.

>>82199705
I've spoken to many women who have experiences of how awful men have been to them, and I myself have actually met men that have tried to cheat on their partners with me after publicly talking about how much they 'love their wives so much' so I could say the same thing about men, but I don't because I for a fact know that not all men are shitty and I know for a fact not all women are 'the same' at their core, it is a ridiculous notion to claim something like that just because you've talked to a few women here and there.

>>82199739
Jesus what are you even doing here roastie

>>82199739
Usually, women pick shit men, because they're attracted to them physically, and/or because they satisfy the women's material needs, or because they enjoy the emotional roller-coaster. Being kind to women usually backfires and men eventually wisen up. Not my fault you choose your own destruction.

Anyway, I'm done with you. You will never have any semblance of accountability, so this is fruitless.

>>82199777
>Usually, women pick shit men
Yes you could say the same thing about men who choose to be with BDP women that break their hearts or men that choose to be with women that fuck them over and blame men for choosing to be around shitty women and that's why you've had bad experiences with women. It works both ways.
>You will never have any semblance of accountability, so this is fruitless.
I have taken womens shitty actions into account more than you have taken mens shitty actions into account so this is quite comedic to me. Look into your own actions before judging others on the same things.

>>82199810
I know there are shit men, anon, but I don't associate with them by choice. Anyway, I can see and interpret patterns and while I can still consider the individual, women usually only change their natural programming after they have been humbled by age and experience.

For most men, their natural state is strife and having to work for everything, so, generally speaking, they're not as spoiled or as unpleasant to deal with.

wi dont hate women, or even particularly dislike them in general. its the voice.i cant stand womens voices. i dont know why. i can feel the natural response being tested and tried by someone simply asking me "do you hate women". i KNOW how easy and effortless it would be to just launch into a tirade of "women are for faggots" tier shit.

i know its wrong, i dont like it, but its just literally how it works. theres a fucking boatload and a half of podcasts, movies tv shows poems drawn smutt that i WILL not look at because its females, made by females, or feels...female. vaginas, man. so gross and ugly, but simultainously the test of mans fortitude.

>>82200363
my post is a little imcrompiserable, sorry. im a little bit like paris. plastered.

>>82198625
>But these are on online spaces or the far left, this isn't every woman
Do you think I was born from the earth and immediately started posting on /r9k/ about how women suck? I have been alive for 25 years I have interacted and observed women for 25 years and I find them lacking. The internet is not serious business. Everything I hate about women has been experienced in real life.

>>82199810
>Yes you could say the same thing about men

no, no you can't, men and women are in no way comparable in anything they do, fuck off retard

>>82200679
they both shit

>>82199810
>It works both ways.
Okay, no shit. When retards here make threads about their gf cucking them all I do is laugh at them.
>that's why you've had bad experiences with women.
Wrong again idiot, my bad experiences with women have nothing to do with my failures in romance. In fact, the few things keeping me from total woman death are related to romantic "experiences".

>>82198914
it is there own fault if they let this get to them.
You have no voice here, nor anywhere else.
The public thinks for itself.

>>82200363
>>82200379
I...understand, i understand you.
Not just grammatically but literally i get what you're saying. I agree? what the fuck thought i was the only one