If you're a ballbroken married man who gets to have sex once a year with an ugly bitchy wife, you are worse off than a virgin. People make such a big deal over whether 10% or 30% of men are virgins while ignoring that most men still have overwhelmingly unsatisfactory sex lives.

>>82198866 (OP)
Guy probably never does anything for his wife ever and the one time he decided to give her a massage she clocked that he was just horny. Maybe give your wife massages more often, probably works and has to take care of the kids when she comes home too. Guy isn't involved enough with his wife.

if i ever end up in relationship where i have to do ANYTHING for sex, just fucking shoot me, because i picked the wrong one

>>82198936
What are you gonna do when she's just not in the mood

>>82198866 (OP)
>>82198936
just cheat. let's be honest, the divorce is coming anyways, so you might as well start getting hookers or look for a replacement

>>82198866 (OP)
Why is the wife even in the relationship at that point?

>>82199341
Money and kids. Money is easier to come by when you cohabitate and your husband funds your shit.

>>82199290
That's different, if she's not in the mood for 3 months straight thoughever she's just not into you anymore. Its time to pack it up
^ this part is why you should never have kids btw, imagine spawning in life and your wife just "growing apart" from you. Family auto ruined

>>82198866 (OP)
>men
>getting married in the current year of our lord
lmao. why do people hate freedom and sex so much? tax reasons?

>>82199341
Financial security, provides stability and continuity for the children, and also most likely removes the need for babysitters (because let's be honest, they're obviously not doing shit together, so she can go out and leave the 'husband' with the kids)

>>82198866 (OP)
>unattractive, sexually disenfranchised man treats his wife like an animal in zoo tycoon that's gonna fuck if the hunger, thirst and happiness bars are filled up
Lmao

>>82199433
>this part is why you should never have kids btw
You're so fucking stupid holy fucking shit. Your wife "growing appart" is something you have FULL control over.

>never get a car guys, its eventually gonna break down and then you'll be stuck in bumfuck nowhere
>what do you mean I need to change the oil and get different tyres for winter, the car doesnt change my oil or buy shoes for me, this isnt fair!!!

>>82200413
If my car stops sucking my dick, I am gonna sell it

>>82198866 (OP)
they need to attach their photos to the posts, i have 0 empathy if he's fat or balding

>>82198866 (OP)
Virginity is important though.
Incels and men who are virgins past a certain age are hated and mocked by everyone.
Virgin women get hated by non-virgin women (crab mentality).
You're told virginity is a social construct and unimportant, but then have multiple articles on how tragic it is that many women will never marry, even though marriage is a social construct.
Insane seething over any man wanting a virgin woman, he's either a hyporctie if he had sex or insecure if he hasn't.

All those dead bedrooms posts are likely from people who grew up thinking sex was "just sex", they had a bunch of partners and now are stuck with people who settled for them when they aged out of dating. They nefver wanted to fuck them to begin with, they just used sex as a lure and to maintian the relationship in return for the lifestyle marriage gave them. Guys who marry non-virgins are retarded and likely wanted a virgin but couldn't hold out and figured this was better than life alone.

It's wild reading these when you have a healthy sex life. Last time I literally called my wife over the phone to come upstairs and get some dick and we were fucking within 2 minutes lol

>>82200413
i get it, but a women is not a machine, you can do everything right and shes still gonna cheat with bbc and divorce rape you and fuck your life over simply because she "feels like it" or she saw some stupid hollywood movie that she wants to recreate. Woman= lying and whore

>>82200413
>compares a car to a woman
retard

>>82198866 (OP)
>overwhelmingly unsatisfactory sex lives
This is the final blackpill. Few people are having sex that is worth having.

>>82198866 (OP)
Women want a relationship where the man does anything and everything to make her happy and she doesn't have to do anything ever to make him happy, unless she feels like it. The no sex after marriage thing always baffled me, no matter how much work a man puts in that he'd rather not do to make her happy, she wouldn't do the bare minimum of literally just existing naked because she doesn't want to (temper tantrum mentality).

>>82198866 (OP)
Relationships are where men would do 100s of things they don't want to do to make their love happy, would perhaps even die defending them, but the woman wouldn't do anything she doesn't want to do. It's a business transaction where she tries to get as much as possible from you while giving as little as possible

>>82198896
It's kind of fucking hilarious that I always see stuff like this. For some reason whenever men are having struggles there's always an asterisk saying "ERM WELL IT'S ACTUALLY HIS FAULT" and whenever women have struggles there's the same but saying "UM WELL ACTUALLY THIS IS BECAUSE OF THE PATRIARCHY"

Just the other day I saw some retarded post about how many "AMAZING WOMEN" are single and can't find any man who wants to commit, and it went off about how women are just "so much more mature" and how men "just can't measure up" and how tragic it is that women are boss babes who just can't find love, but if a man said the same shit he'd get called an incel

>>82198866 (OP)
As I have gotten older, the only thing that matters is whether my partners would have had sex with me at other points in her life. The worst case scenario is:
>woman has fun and exciting sex with dozens of brutish, low-inhibition men on the basis that they're tall or have a nice jawline or they just give her the tingles
>woman decides she's "matured"
>woman settles with a safe boring man and has safe boring sex
I would do anything to avoid being the safe boring man, as I'm sure you all would too. That being said, if I met a nice sweet girl who has had sex before with thoughtful introverted types like myself then it wouldn't be the end of the world.

I spent a year with a girl who had 12 partners before me and it felt like I was continually being taken advantage of. I was in a position where she had "got hers" whereas I hadn't around like she did. She had "done it for the plot" but I never did. She bagged herself a high-earning trophy golden retriever boyfriend after fucking around and I was always in a disadvantaged position mentally.

For the last couple of years I've been fucking around, having sex with as many women (preferably virgins) as possible. I don't want to sleep around, but I want to have slept around. I don't want to do drugs and drive dangerously and stay up all night partying, but I want to have already done these things, just so that I don't lock in with someone who has and be the perpetual sucker.

That being said, after you've pulled a girl and taken her back to your place and you nut, it becomes clear that it was only ever masturbation with another person's body the whole time. I'm a tall, rich, white, able bodied, intelligent, handsome (or so I'm told), athletic, 25 year old homeowner. My life has been paved by my parents and good fortune and a bit of my own hard work. I want for nothing and never will. There isn't anything in life can replace meaningful human relationships. Bodycount itself means nothing.

>>82201030
>Bodycount itself means nothing.
>I spent a year with a girl who had 12 partners before me and it felt like I was continually being taken advantage of. I was in a position where she had "got hers" whereas I hadn't around like she did. She had "done it for the plot" but I never did. She bagged herself a high-earning trophy golden retriever boyfriend after fucking around and I was always in a disadvantaged position mentally. For the last couple of years I've been fucking around, having sex with as many women (preferably virgins) as possible. I don't want to sleep around, but I want to have slept around. I don't want to do drugs and drive dangerously and stay up all night partying, but I want to have already done these things, just so that I don't lock in with someone who has and be the perpetual sucker.

>>82201030
You are just a walled manwhore with a Madonna whore complex that thinks he's special

>>82199441
There aren't even tax benefits in my country. But the thing is, the vast majority of women are extreme normies so they see marriage as the endgame of any relationship. Despite all the surveys saying stuff like "45% of women will be single and childless by 2030", the sex-havers I talk to have told me that every woman they've ever been with eventually brings up marriage and kids, 2-3yrs into the relationship. The miserable married normies in my office have also said they only got married because their then gfs wanted marriage. If I was honest and told a woman from the start that I never want marriage and kids, I'd likely never even get a 2nd date. Probably like 1 in 10 women is ok with never marrying and never having kids.
A lot of men are simply afraid of loneliness and will literally decide to fuck up their financial situation and freedom just to cohabitate with a mediocre woman who doesn't even give them sex more often than twice a year. It's only introverts and high IQ individuals like me who can see through the bullshit and arrive at OP's conclusion:
>If you're a ballbroken married man who gets to have sex once a year with an ugly bitchy wife, you are worse off than a virgin.

>>82201369
Bodycount ITSELF means nothing, but if you want a good long term relationship then you both better have the same values with regards to this shit.

She was outgoing and openly sexual, I was not. I thought the answer was to make myself outgoing and openly sexual, but it was not. Do what you want. Your partner should do what she wants. You should want your partner to do what she wants to do. Your partner should want you to do what you want to do. If you pass these checks then the relationship will be fine, and bodycount itself is inconsequential.

>>82201406
Don't really know what that means, friendo. Also:
>25
>walled
Kek

>>82201502
Your dick is literally smaller than it used to be at 19 and I guarantee you have crow's feet. Men are doomed to be delusional and constantly afraid like this

>>82199341
no, this is exactly why she is in the relationship
some girls hate sex
they are also ugly/were raped young
because all girls love sex some are just scared/have a simp
candles wuvvy duvvy patience doesn't get you to reverse a deadbedroom, deadbedrooms literally only get reveresed by drastic changes in personality or body and even then still p bad long term

>>82198866 (OP)
I wonder how many guys like this know that their wife really doesn't love them in the slightest. What is their state of mind? Do they just want to coom in a pussy and that is it?

>>82200902
That's an insidious one too. You see couples and you assume they're having an active sex life. But often, especially in older couples, the woman decided that her sex life was over and the man has no say in the matter and just has to accept that he'll never get intimacy again past a hug and maybe cuddling every now and then. Lots of broken men and dead bedrooms out there.

>>82201030
I was never interested in racking up a large bodycount but I will point out that by using virgins as disposable onaholes you are adding to the problem.

>>82201763
They think the situation can be fixed. As men we always try to fix, to improve, to repair. They don't realize that once a woman lost all attraction to you, it's over. It cannot be fixed, it cannot be mended. She will never be attracted to you ever again. It's over.

This is just a standard relationship between a woman and a sub-8 man. In her brain, she's thinking "what are you doing, you aren't for sex, you're my oofy-doofy who's here to give me company and provide for me". Women are only sexually attracted to ~10-20% of men.

>>82198866 (OP)
I be reading r/deadbedrooms like its the morning newspaper and I feel like it is starting to have an affect on my psyche
>>82198896
Sometimes that is the case. Most of the time though it is because he ignored every single red flag in existence just because he was afraid of being alone. I rarely ever feel sorry for guys like this because most of the time they CHOSE this.

>look your life isnt so bad, theres people whos lives are shittier by their own choice

its all ok then, the human life experience has been fixed

>>82198866 (OP)
Men have lost their collective balls. It used to be a guy would just start a second family when his first wife got too and abandon her and their kids.

>>82200701
word. like its no wonder if the guy was some skinny good looking dude with full mane and then he got bald, fat and hairy body like just this gross blob. not saying it makes him undeserving of love but like the compadibility that brought them together in the first place isn't there anymore.

>>82201536
>your dick
Is 7.5" x 5". I run 30 miles a week and my sexual stamina and erection quality is tip top. I consume L-citrulline before workouts and could cum 3x a day if I chose to. I supplement zinc and consume liver, and I could fill a shot glass with my cum if I chose to.

>your crow's feet
I use a daily facial moisturiser with SPF, as well as products with retinol and vitamin c. On sunny days I wear a hat and shades. I shower twice a day with lukewarm water and my stress levels are fine. I havent had a spot or blemish or discolouration for several years, and according to the selfies I took when I was 15, my skin's the exact same as it ever was.

Anything else?

>>82198866 (OP)
>le/deadbedrooms
I would bet money every one of these women in these marriages are fucking another guy behind their husbands back. Withholding/withdrawing sex is women's way of "moving on" without being completely honest to their live-in wallets.