Antinatalism. Those who have not truly suffered cannot understand. They still think it's a matter of logic.

>>82200995 (OP)
Nice no true scottsman fallacy stupid incel.

>>82200995 (OP)
Never met an antinatalist who didn't have depression first. Antinatalism is a gloomy thought you have when you're big sad.

Life is good, and I will not deny my hypothetical children its splendour - not that you can harm a non-person in the first place ;)

>>82201022
>>82201066
That's okay non-sufferers, maybe someday you will understand.

>>82201096
>life is good
>NUH UH

>>82201105
>incapable of basic empathy or knowledge
Ignorance is bliss, non-sufferer. Enjoy it.

what do you call it not when you don't want to have kids because you're perpetrating evil or whatever and moreso just it's prohibitively expensive and your standards for a woman are unrealistically high combined with a generally apathetic view of participating in society

>>82201187
>what do you call it not when you don't want to have kids because you're perpetrating evil or whatever and moreso just it's prohibitively expensive and your standards for a woman are unrealistically high combined with a generally apathetic view of participating in society
My life.

>>82201169
>non-sufferer
I suffer, but I also experience joy and meaning that justifies the suffering. Sorry you have a shit life tho

>>82201191
high five brother

>noo i suffer too much being a neet
anon is a big wuss

>>82201199
>>82201247
>assuming things
Non-sufferers are incapable of abstract thought it seems. But that's okay, the less consciousness there is, the less suffering there is. Plants suffer the least after all.

>>82200995 (OP)
Your suffering does not take away from my childrens' happpiness unless I let you steal their futures. If you want to stop suffering, every mortal creature has a way out.

>>82201283
>Plants suffer the least after all.
How do you know?

>>82201537
>tortures your entire family for decades
Heh, nothing personnel breeder.

>>82201549
No nervous system.

>>82201549
>Breeders be like: kids born with horrific diseases and a lifetime of suffering ahead of them, great!

>>82201705
>kids born with horrific diseases and a lifetime of suffering ahead of them, great!
Not this breeder.

>>82201841
Fair. But life can always cause you immense suffering even if you were born perfectly healthy and with decent genes.

>>82201882
That's what euthanasia is for.

I feel that antinatalism is too militant. There should be an apatheist version where you don't really give a fuck either way and probably won't breed because it's too much of a hassle. That probably describes most people.