Fertility collapse is permanent btw.

>>82201908 (OP)
>Fertility collapse is permanent btw
Good
TND

>>82201908 (OP)
>hurr durr culture wars
Fertility collapse is due to 2 main issues. 1 is living space. Real estate is expensive in cities. Nobody wants to live in the country because nothing is going on there. 2 is our culture has made raising children too big of a chore. You can't just let them run around your block anymore. There is no outside children can safely explore with other children unless you give them constant supervision. Fertility drop can be reversed if the government forces decentralization by cucking city growth and focusing on creating small scale, safe, green communities like 1k population villages connected to everything a person would need with a good transportation network. This will happen when we reduce the sizes of farms by developing efficient in-door farming on giant factories. We'll have much more free space then.

>>82201934
But Ns are the least affected...

>>82201963
>Fertility collapse is due to
Women right

F*males are all chadonly and refuse to reproduce with sub8s

>>82201981
>But Ns are the least affected...
Because cuckservatives are stopping our efforts.
Fertility rates in africa are dropping but it could be faster if rightwingers let us spread feminism over there

>>82201963
>wordswordswords
Ceausescu banned contraception in Romania and fertility returned to above-replacement levels overnight. When the policy was repealed after his death it plummeted again.

Fertility decline is due to technological progress. That's it.

The ones lamenting it are consumerist idiots who view humans as nothing but cogs in the consumer machine. And when the number of people declines, it's taken as a personal death threat.

>>82201908 (OP)
People can't afford a lot of things they used to do easily

>>82201983
No, women's rights have no effect on fertility. If anything, women's rights are GOOD for fertility long term because misandrists are free to not reproduce.
>>82201996
It's going below replacement even in Muslim shitholes that treat women like cattle. Even fascists couldn't raise fertility.
>>82201998
Most of the pro-natalists are anti-consumerist culture.

>>82201998
End retirement and immigration and i will stop caring

>>82202015
>because misandrists are free to not reproduce.
A "misandrist" is just an honest woman, and they still reproduce btw

>>82201908 (OP)
which is why we need artificial wombs.

>>82202015
>It's going below replacement even in Muslim shitholes that treat women like cattle. Even fascists couldn't raise fertility.
Afghanistan has the highest fertility outside of Africa at 4.6, which is more than double replacement. By "Muslim shitholes" you probably mean Iran, where women go to college and contraception was provided for free until 2021.

Bring back arranged marriages and you will solve the problem in a year.

>>82201908 (OP)
Microplastics are now found in all human testicles and placentas. There is a proven link between microplastics in the human body and reduced fertility rates.

You brought this upon yourselves by not controlling pollution and no amount of rolling back peoples rights will fix this until you solve the pollution problem.

>>82202060
I don't think shooting blanks is a significant part of the problem here.

>>82201908 (OP)
>Fertility collapse
World population is still expected to keep going up for another 70yrs. And this is while we keep destroying our environment and consooming/polluting like crazy. We're still far more likely to doom ourselves by turning Earth into a disaster-prone wasteland than end up like South Korea. I wish this fertility collapse was real but it obviously isn't.

>>82202060
But rolling back on women's rights is how we solve pollution though

>>82201908 (OP)
Not really. All it takes is a shift in societal attitudes and culture, which I think we are already seeing the beginnings of.

Look at how many young men are becoming right wing extremists. A society that "oppresses" such a large group who think they deserve it all is bound to change eventually, probably by force. Donald Trump as president with a horde of borderline Nazi followers is the proof.

I don't think this will stop. Either the Democrats change things, or the right does it themselves in a much more hostile approach.

Change in culture and government means changes in policies and laws as it relates to society and the workforce. These changes can usher in a new conservative society and women will go back to being cattle for the nasty white men. Asian would probably follow suit soon after.

>>82201908 (OP)
>Fertility collapse is permanent btw.
I don't think people even realize what it actually means. Recovering from a demographic collapse with a baby boom means getting stuck in the double chokehold of having to take care of a huge elderly population(who WILL use their social capital and families to further their own interests, just look at how old money boomer networks run the US) and also having to take care of the children and all of this is on top of all the other boiling pressures of modern life AND ethnic conflicts as well.

It's so incomprehensibly over and people don't even realize the basic mathematics of it, never mind the finer details and further implications.

>>82202075
>horde of borderline Nazi
National-socialism is when you worship niggers and israel o algo :muttjak:

>>82202042
Afghanistan is mostly rural, that explains the birth rate.

>>82202075
>Look at how many young men are becoming right wing extremists.
Very few. The political distribution of young men is pretty stable.

>>82202091
Both sides worship niggers, one just hates themselves for it and so their method of worship is different. The left wouldn't worship Israel if it's leaders and influencers weren't all Jews. The right would worship Israel either way because it's a white apartheid state.

>>82202111
This graph literally shows a trend in men becoming more conservative over the last 20 years you fucking moron.

>>82202125
A small one. Really a correction back to 1990 levels after a swing to the left in the subsequent 20 years.

>>82201908 (OP)
-The more educated women are, the fewer children they will have.
-Older women end up having fewer children than teen girls, the younger the first child, the more children they will have in their lifetime.
-Career women don't want children or want them much later in life.

Solving these three problems could increase the birth rate. But men today is too castrated by women to something. So the population will collapse and men will be blamed for it.

>>82202125
>more conservative
Nope. Just less liberal

>>82201908 (OP)
Our society is engineered to keep women pampered so that before they know it they've passed their Use By date.

>>82202114
>The right would worship Israel either way because it's a white apartheid state.
Jews arent white but whatever, natsoc is a leftwing ideology, its a form of socialism

>>82202135
Not small at all. That trend is going to continue downwards (obviously).

>>82201998
This can be fixed by a global grid failure which would kill 80% of humanity but if that's what it costs to save humanity than we might as well try
"Some of you may die and that's a sacrifice I'm willing to make"

>>82202162
You want to fix the population reduction by... reducing the population...

>>82202159
The Jews who all migrated from Ukraine and Germany after world war 2 aren't white, yeah sure thing. Guys I'm 5% Jewish and 95% whatever European country family has been living in for 1500 years, no that doesn't make me white! Also I'm talking about the right, no one said anything about National Socialism besides you.

>>82201908 (OP)
No, it's only going to last as long as the current iteration of civilization. This is the Western Civilization cycle:
Barbarism
City-states
Nation-states
Decadence
Collapse
It's happened like, at least 4 times already.

>>82202150
>Nope
Does the graph not indicate liberal and conservative on it's axis..?

A lot of people are missing the mark on this. Yes, birth rates are in decline, and they'll decline in developing nations too, in time.

The elites were aware of this well over fifty years ago and already have it planned out. What humans remain will own nothing and be happy. Consumption and production will be shifted to robots (powered by AI instead of autism), assuring that no wealth is lost through the transition away from humans.

The network state model is gonna be bleak. The film "Robots" will be seen as prophetic.

>>82202173
Precisely! Hardship actually increases fertility as seen in Korea during the Korean war. I just want to speed up the process in which a grid collapse scenario would be the most natural cause. It's insane but it just might work

>>82202181
>no one said anything about National Socialism besides you.
>>82202075
>Donald Trump as president with a horde of borderline Nazi followers
...

>>82202192
>Does the graph not indicate liberal and conservative on it's axis..?
It does, and it also shows that men are still liberal.
Less liberal =/= more conservative

>>82202173
Thats precisely what the elites plan to do Cause an artificial grid collapse by EMPing the power grid or alternatively waiting for a solar flare. Why do you think they have fortified bunkers(that won't save them from tech failure imo)?

>>82202226
>what is hyperbole and descriptive language
Try fascist

Also, the point is that the graph is showing a fairly sharp movement towards conservatism, and basic fucking pattern recognition would make it painfully obvious to anyone with a brain that it is going to continue on its path. I guess basic trends are hard for some people to grasp though lol.

>>82202258
Awesome. Looking foward to it.

>>82202263
>fascist
Fascism isnt conservative either, its pretty liberal, in many aspects
>fairly sharp
Nigga are we looking at the same graph ?
Only women have a sharp change on that graph

>>82202315
Fascism is conservative lmao.

Also, let's assume that each bar on the y axis is 10% of the population. That would mean there was a change within 10% of men within the last 10-15 years alone. That is pretty fast, and it's even faster if those bars are more than 10% (which they might be). Look at the actual numbers and not just the shape of the line you retard.

>>82202338
>Fascism is conservative
No its not wtf ?
>Look at the actual numbers
Post them (you wont) (nigger)

>>82202366
Yes it is. Also, I have no source for that graphic since I'm not the one who posted it. It's really basic statistical interpretation skills. I really miss when this place wasn't filled with halfwit normies.

>>82202390
>Yes it is
No its not.
>It's really basic statistical interpretation skills
Your interpretation. And your jugement of it.
>I really miss when this place wasn't filled with halfwit normies.
Niggahh... if you care about politics youre necessarly a normie...

>>82202015
What was the fertility in 1919 when the Nineteenth amendment passed and women got the right to vote?
What is the fertility rate today?

>>82202984
What was the fertility rate before indoor plumbing became affordable and normal? What is the fertility rate today?
>everything is america
I know you're some kind of a manosphere retard just because you mention the 19th, but this fertility decline trend is global, applies to every urbanized nation.

>>82201908 (OP)
I don't think it will be permanent, but there will be a long and very painful period of societal collapse before it recovers again. Your image is correct by the way, but it is only part of reason as others have mentioned, much of it can be directed at women, some of it not.

There is an irony that the coming collapse will affect women the most, yet much of the cause can by contributed to women, women are harbingers of their own doom.

>>82203088
>manosphere
Youre the retard, this shit isnt even real