I'm not trying to cope or larp, I genuinely think I'm a good man. I don't lie, I don't cheat, I don't screw people over, and I try to treat others with respect. I'd really love to have a real, nice, and loving relationship one day, just someone to share life with without all the games. Feels like something simple but impossible at the same time. I know a lot of other anons feel the same way, It's hard being a 27 year old kissless virgin. I feel very lonely all the time.

>>82216122 (OP)
What have you tried to do to find a relationship? I feel the same as you but I've never actually tried.

You should look up hoe_math on youtube and watch them, these exact things are covered in his well documented videos on these subjects.

>>82216148
Well I've talked to girls online, from here and other sites. Asked out a few girls irl but they weren't really interested (wanted to stay friends). I haven't made a huge effort, but idk where to start really.
>>82216170
I wish you could just love and take care of a woman, and not play all these games. Makes me wonder if it's even worth it.

>>82216122 (OP)
I dont get how people can just get into relationships, have sex, get married, etc. All of it is completely alien to me, sex might as well be something fictional.

>I don't lie, I don't cheat, I don't screw people over
there's your problem. You gotta lie and cheat to get ahead of others, women don't like men at the bottom of the totem pole

https://youtu.be/Hhn1CXKUE4A

>>82216201
He's not a pickup artist selling confidence, stop making dumbass assumptions before looking into things. You've honestly disappointed me with that reply.

>>82216263
I'm not watching a guy called hoe math who makes videos like this lol

>>82216248
It is to men like us

>>82216201
>I haven't made a huge effort, but idk where to start really.
I think I might just try and brute force dating apps until they work. There's got to be at least one girl on there for all of us.

>>82216302
From my massive amount of experience with this topic and adjacent topics it doesn't really feel like you have any potential to improve, you're more into coping and less into learning. You want to blame others for your problems without ever considering that you have a part in the problem.

I led you to water, but you were too busy bitching to drink. I would wish you good luck but luck only comes to those who try. I'm gone.

>>82216248
six figures, six feet, six inchex, sixpack

simple as (chad only)

>>82216302
try wheat waffles then, he made the most kino blackpill content ever created

>>82216806
i'm more fascinated by how people who have none of these things get into relationships so easily. i think being neurotypical is more important than anything else.

>>82216989
It is. Normies don't even think about the kind of things you agonize over.

>>82216122 (OP)
aren't cats far better at catching tiny animals like mice

>>82217028
Very true. I remember being in high school and being amazed by how effortlessly my friends could talk to girls while I would be a nervous wreck lol

>>82216302
do it anyway. his videos on hypergamy and the keeper/sleeper are the most important. the dude is a good looking autist who approached women from a rational point of view. he knows his stuff.