Thread 82438164

reddit banned him for this post...

>>82438164 (OP)
Telling a boy to wait is setting him up for failure. A man who waits gets nothing. Only women can stagnate and get stuff handed to them.

>>82438164 (OP)
>just wait
Kek
https://youtu.be/8KRzqPxR5zs?t=54

>>82438164 (OP)
>boo-to-the-fucking-hoo for meee...
so boring... you can always change and you know that

>>82438164 (OP)
yep that's pretty bullshit, saying "just wait" is a cop-out for actually saying what they actually need to do, which is too fucking much if they want to go from being a friendless neet to having a social circle.

>>82438164 (OP)
another example of "I don't know how to pet the dog"

>>82438164 (OP)
Incels tell the truth and get demonised for it.
>In a time of deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act.

>>82438605
i think
>I don't know how to acquire reliable means of transportation, make my appearance presentable, improve my personality and ability to understand people i've never met before, discover places i can potentially meet friends at with low risk, keep a social circle and somehow get a job that is perfectly and always compatible with all of those things
is a more reasonable thing to say

>>82438659
>with low risk
This is the core problem. Looking for low risk is for losers who will never do anything with their lives. Fuck you, you deserve loneliness if you think this way.

>>82438810
said the retard posting on an anonymous website to protect his identity
you should be saying things like this on xitter instead for engagement revenue

>>82438193
You're correct but no one here will acknowledge it. Incels are quite literally men and women who are pissed that no one approaches them while simultaneously doing nothing about it other than anything that involves doing nothing.

You only need to think for all of five minutes to figure out that the tried and tested strategy of "do nothing and win," written by a man from a notoriously isolationist, manipulative, and xenophobic culture, doesnt work in the exact polar opposite situation that advice was intended for. The people that need to do this are too addicted to TikTok, Chinese mobile games, fent/opiates, MSG and cheap manufacturing to give a shit though.

>>82438826
That's for poor people

>>82438843
sure bud now go ride off in your lambo

>>82438846
That's for poor people who want people to think they're not poor. I avoid debt.

I've always been a bit more intelligent, mature and idiosyncratic for my age. Everything I've cultivated, I cultivated by myself. My parents never gave me the right "equipment" so to speak. I was taught ethics, honesty and kindness. I was never taught confidence, faith, masculine values in general. Parents have even said some incredibly hateful shit on occasion, such as "trash" or "I regret how I raised you".

If it weren't for my idiosyncratic personality I'd have let my shattered self-worth lead me down a path of suicide.

I simply exist.

>>82438659
The dog is all of those things because they come naturally to most people, so the idea that it needs to be explained is absurd

>>82438838
>mfw do nothing
>universe finds a way to make me do something instead
I am on the run from the police as we speak
t. not American so it's fine

>>82438164 (OP)
He admits to it himself: he spent his entire twenties being a depressed piece of shit to the point that it affected his physical health. He didn't try. He never tried. He gave up in his teens and has been making a half-hearted effort ever since while crying himself to sleep with self-pity at night.

No, it doesn't turn out fine for everyone. You need to actually put in effort. Real effort.
>>82438605
Exactly. How many opportunities did this faggot skip out on because of his self-defeatist attitude? I promise you that he didn't try to form connections with other people or that he tried to grow as a person.

>>82438164 (OP)
he didn't focus on himself

he remained a fat slob loser who never exercised

>>82439136
>he spent his entire twenties being a depressed piece of shit to the point that it affected his physical health.
brainlet take, you don't choose depression. You're out of touch.

>>82438164 (OP)
Dude you've been waiting? Yeah no shit it didn't work out.
If you re climbing a mountain and you're at the bottom, I'll say "yes! It takes a while to get there!" Then on my way back, you say "I've been waiting to get there, still here"
NO YOU FUCKING IDIOT. 15 years later and you were just waiting for things to progress?? Wtf
What have you phisically done to achieve what you want?

>>82438536
Just hop in the shower and grow your hair back bro

>>82438838
>Incels are quite literally men and women
Stopped reading here

>>82439136
No, he kept on that grindset and you're reading into it things he didn't say to continue your just world theory posting, you are a nigger

>>82438164 (OP)
Well I actually focused on myself and now at 30 my life is so comfortable that I no longer want a woman, as it would only cripple my financial progress. Becoming well-off has eliminated this stupid monkey brain need for a woman.
>>82439154
This. Waiting doesn't work. You can't fix your personality but you can get rich and/or build muscle. And trust me, money brings happiness. Money can make you stop giving a shit about not having a woman.

>>82438164 (OP)
The truth is that life fucking sucks if you're not born a chad or female. As a normal man you have to put in an insane amount of work just to get a fraction of what chad and your looksmatch get for existing.

>>82440079
>but you can get rich
Unfortunately not everyone can be a trust fund baby. America these is pretty much a caste system and women and minorities legally get priority in hiring and business contracts so if you're a white male and born poor you have no hope and might as well find a nice corner to do sweet sweet heroine.

>>82440079
>You can't fix your personality
honestly i don't even agree with this. you CAN fix your personality. it requires you to be open minded and reflect on the validity of your own views. it isn't necessarily easy to admit to yourself that your view of the world might be wrong, but it will allow you to grow as a person

exercise is also good though. doesn't have to be lifting weights. find something you like doing and just keep doing that. the consistency will inevitably get your results. it doesn't need to be fancy or grueling

>>82438164 (OP)
Why do people assume this man is a NEET or broke? His post flat out says "KEEP grinding" implying that he's already been grinding during those years.

>>82439940
You do in fact choose depression. In most cases it's not an illness that befalls you; most people with depression have a so called "reactive depression", which means that it's behavioural. Genuine chronic depression caused by hormonal imbalances and such is rare. It's something that is very easy to diagnose, control, and fix, but only if you genuinely want to. The guy in the OP sadly got stuck in an ugly mindset in his teens and therefore never tried. He talked himself into misery.
>>82440058
He literally states that a decade of depression made him look like a ghost.

>>82440121
I just got a job and never moved out. Kept saving and investing and avoiding debt.
>>82440122
>it requires you to be open minded and reflect on the validity of your own views
I didn't mean views, I meant making yourself extroverted if you're introverted. It's not gonna work.

>>82440125
Just going to work every day doesn't mean shit in terms of actual personal growth. EVERYONE goes to work. We have to to survive. But becoming a likeable person and achieving some baseline level of happiness requires effort on your part.

>>82438164 (OP)
Why would anyone post on reddit in the big 2025
Xitter is right down the hall and way better

>>82440164
"Becoming a likable person" is all looks though, lmao. "Did you win the genetic lottery? Wow what an achievement."

>>82440079
How do you know he didn't focus on himself and work his way into a comfortable financial position like you did but the urge to stop desiring women simply never went away for him?

>>82440122
Can you change your personality to be less of a retarded and obnoxious faggot? Probably not, because you have a subconscious drive to punish everyone around you with your autistic presence as revenge for all the bullying other kids and your parents did to you growing up and all the molestation as well.

>>82440170
I'd rather hang out with an ugly and likeable person than someone like you, though.

>>82440170
If you're ugly or short and try to be friendly or helpful towards people you'll be likeable as a jester or punching bag, not likeable as someone who's cool and exciting.

>>82440184
Yeah so you can look down on them.

>>82440173
>still a friendless loser
If he'd had jobs and made money, he'd have inevitably built some friendships, unless he was completely schizoid, in which case he'd avoid relationships anyway.

>>82440192
>You have to be good looking CHAD who can get away with being a gigantic asshole

>just be likeable so you can be part of normie's entourage and get literally nothing in return
Useless behavior motivated by instinctual drive to practice a mating strategy that doesn't work in modern society.

>>82440199
So I can talk to them about shared interests and hear their personal takes on various media, philosophy, etc. Not everyone's out to get you, you little freak

>>82440164
What is a likeable person?

>>82440170
Have you tried just eating better? Height and looks are pretty much just good nutrition. Nutrition also gives you a bigger dick and makes you smarter too so this is almost entirely a skill issue on your part desu

>>82440251
A doormat who's shorter and uglier than me. Can't have anybody around who'd pose a threat to my chances of scoring with the ladies.

>>82440264
Nigga most people don't control what food they eat until their growth plates are already fused shut. You're telling that nigga to kill himself and reroll for a life with better parents.

>>82440281
It's not a bad strategy desu

>>82440281
>Nigga most people don't control what food they eat
Holy shit, manlet cope in action folks. You always control what you eat you are just chose to be subhuman. If you refuse to improve just accept your personal failure, embrace your postion at the bottom and stop blaming others for your choices idiot lul

>>82440309
>the pre-adult child who is still growing has plenty of choice and money to exercise that choice
Kill yourself tranny

>>82438838
There's nowhere to go to be approached though. And if I approach people, I'm harassing them.
There's no solution to this, other than blind luck.

>>82438164 (OP)
>just wait
You're retarded. Why would you think that things would change by just waiting?
Doing things changes things.

>>82440359
He became a baldlet, nothing he did would have changed anything.

>you have to BECOME LIKABLE!
>-t. judgmental prick no one likes

>>82440359
>just don't be autistic, and have a constant circle of friends since you were in single digits
Is what you actually mean. There is no "working" that can be done to become neurotypical. And there's nowhere I can just go to be around people like me.

>>82440251
That's going to vary from person to person. The most general qualities are probably going to be things like kindness, empathy, and humor though. Beyond that, you're looking at more individual tastes.

Personally I don't like everyone, and I don't expect to be liked by everyone. But being open-minded and willing to bring different aspects of your personality to the fore depending on the person can go a long way. Talk about work with people who are more diligent, joke with people who like to fuck around, etc. It's often enough to let people talk about things they're interested in, rather than try to impress them, and you can work from there.

If you literally want the basics of not being repellent, unironically read How to Win Friends and Influence People by Dale Carnegie. It's old as fuck and the title sounds like some alpha influencer bullshit but everything he has to say is legit and still applies today.

>>82440343
>he says as he stands on tippy toes to reach shoulder level with me*
Your nutrition deficient iq and penis are also showing now, please refrain from coveting your superiors in the future, wretch.

>>82440447
People don't understand what kindless and empathy are, and basically mistake people faking for the real thing.
>Oh dude, I'm totally interested in this thing you're saying, even though I forget about it a day later!
That's what normies think a good personality looks like. Being a fucking bullshit merchant.

>>82438810
nobody deserves anything
things happen regardless

>>82440308
Yeah, saying "i le cant control what i heckin eaterino!" Is what fat fucking redditors say so I don't know why this faggot gets a pass because he chose to be small and weak.

>>82440447
>The most general qualities are probably going to be things like kindness, empathy, and humor though.
Vast majority of people is like that including the vast majority of people on /r9k/, doesn't look like it's sufficient in the modern world.

>>82440448
>Tranime nigger
>Superior to anyone

>>82440447
>like kindness, empathy,
Gets you trampled over.

>read How to Win Friends and Influence People by Dale Carnegie.
Just call people by their names bro! No, it's cringy, manipulative shit. I've read it.

>get told to focus on himself
>doesn't focus on himself
>complains and whines again
>still does nothing to improve himself

>>82440447
>How to Win Friends and Influence People
I don't want to "win friends" or influence people

>>82438164 (OP)
Well the alternative is the truth. Your success in life largely depends on factors outside of your control, usually set in motion before your birth. By a very young age, at least by adolesence, you will know if it's over for you or not.
For 99.9% of people it's about whether they make the right choices and have the discipline to not LOSE their ranking. For 0.1% there will be the luck factor (which could be good or bad). If you are honest with losers, it will make them depressed and un-productive. If you are dishonest they will often not give up until middle age or retirememt age, when their productivity wanes anyway

>>82440596
Doesn't matter if he focuses on himself. By the age you realise something is wrong, it's already too late. Most of these people lack any ingredient to improve anyway.

>>82440447
How To Win Friends is more of a professional networking book. It doesn't really offer much for actual losers.

>>82438164 (OP)
"Focusing on yourself" as a man means make money or become better looking. The navel gazing horeshit women feed suckers about getting a better personality i.e. becoming more kind and caring is a shit test. If you can't figure this out by your early 20s you failed the IQ test.

>>82440955
>The navel gazing horeshit women feed suckers about getting a better personality i.e. becoming more kind and caring is a shit test.
Bingo.

>>82440359
>bro just magically become rich and attractive
>>82438838
>took me 5 years to gety shit together, have a job, mve out, go back to uni, get 1 few acquaintances, hobbies etc
>bro just toss of that away by committing street harassment
Noone outside of the us approaches random women
>inb4 muh hobby clubs luh languages classes muh salsa lessons
All of these are all men

>>82440486
Get better reading comprehension so you bo longer have to get this worked up over misinterpretations of what other people say. Hope this helps!

>inb4 minor spelling mistakes
Misclicking the key right next to what you intended to click is not comparable to taking shit out of context.

>>82438164 (OP)
It's his fault, that's what happens when you stay inactive and make up imaginary bs like depression instead of actually focusing on yourself

>>82438164 (OP)
>incel keeps bitching and whining about meaningless bullshit instead of taking a shower and focusing in himself
Typical!

What made men like this? Literally 10+ years of depression, and this nigga won't just fuck a hooker. People used to go to the brothel the day they hit 18.

Love, the kind that incels romanticize, barely exists. It's like winning the lottery. If you need that not be depressed, please just shoot yourself now.

>>82440486
why do belligerent retards like you come here thinking the purpose of the board is to act like a belligerent retard in every thread, please kill yourself, you refuse to even read

>>82440052
Wahh I'm balding wahh I'm going to do nothing with my life but goon to hentai now(jk it's all I was doing before anyways)

>>82438164 (OP)
looksmaxxing needs to be mandatory curriculum for young men. they are taught lies like personality matters when your face IS your personality.

>>82438164 (OP)
when we say focus on yourself, we mean looksmax, not mindfullness

>>82441615
As opposed to what though? What is this magical activity that people can do to get what they want?

Different kind of hell.
>Work on myself
>Shits ok now years later
>None of the women are virgins, wanting a virgin is unrealistic

Honestly there is no real point in self improvement when, by the time you reap the rewards it's actually you just picking up leftovers. It works for other shit like you have money for things, but for actual relationships it's a fucking scam, glorified beta bucks.

>>82442181
Yes. Self-development is only worthwhile if it brings development of the self (redundant, I know) and that in itself is a joy and brings purpose. Say, for example, learning to play the guitar because you find it fun and enjoyable

Foids select for looks and your capability to provide them whatever lifestyle they want, and that changes, so their affection is never permanent

The "just grind it out" method to find a woman is self-defeating and leads to a betabucks destiny

>>82438838
>Incels are quite literally men and women

>>82438164 (OP)
what type of 'focusing on yourself' has that nigga done if in 15 years he haven't managed to deal with his mental health, haven't managed to make any friends, haven't had a single date and massively deteriorated in appearance? like what in the actual fuck has he been doing for that entire time

>>82441886
Gee anon things are simple if youre insecure about your hair you minoxidil/finasteride/go to turkey/learn to accept your hair the way it is. If you're fat, you eat less and be more active. If you suck at painting, you practice with intent every day. If you want to improve socialization skills you practice talking to people. You niggers want everything handed to you and fuck my chud life I wish it was that easy. I worked hard to charisma max and it has paid off for me. I had to spill my spaghetti countless times before learning social cues.

>>82442549
>I worked hard to charisma max and it has paid off for me
lmao nigger you're spending your time posting on the incel board, not much of a payoff lol

>>82440054
This.
It's all so tiresome
>captcha

>>82438193
Anyone who tells you to "wait" doesnt actually care about you. They're just hoping that you "figure it out". As if you're supposed to just wake up one morning and then you get a gf. But when that doesnt happen and you end up old and alone, theyll just shrug their shoulders and blame you for not trying.

>>82438193
>Telling a boy to wait is setting him up for failure.
Truth but also kind of not, you need to meet certain requirements before the good stuff happens and 9/10 times you only really acquire the wisdom to get it to happen once you are older.

>>82438810
Retard alert. You can get the cops called on you if you're below average looking and you approach the wrong woman. Low risk is the standard, not the ideal

>>82438164 (OP)
Good, Reddit is even worse for your brain than this place (which is an achievement).

>>82438164 (OP)
At the end of the day it's all down to genetics. It really doesn't matter to tell people to read self help books or go to the gym or whatever. I mean lets say you're a 4 out of 10 and you go the gym. Maybe you can become a 5 or a 6. But you'll never be a genetic 7 or 8 or even a 9. You know, the tall white dudes with great jawlines.

I used to hang out with this tall handsome white dude. He didn't go the gym and was kinda skinny. But girls would gravitate to him in bars. Even if he said weird stuff they still liked him. It's funny because one day he told me
>"When I was younger, like 16, I was just some nerd playing WoW all day and I was scared of girls. Now they just come up to me. I'm a lucky fucker"
He was blackpilled and he knew he was lucky. When I stood next to him in bars (I'm 5foot6 and he was 6ft) the girls straight up just pretended I was invisible most of the time.

>>82442876
Looks are everything. The most effective blackpill is having a white chad/chad-lite friend. You witness everything you ever read online happen irl

>>82443033
Yeah it made me feel like shit to be completely honest with you. Because they just ignored me and wanted to fuck him. Seeing it happen IRL makes you feel rotten.

>>82440264
No. 80% of height and looks is genetic, plus you don't even control what you eat for most of your development period as another anon pointed out.

>>82443128
>plus you don't even control what you eat for most of your development period
Thats very true anon. until 18, really you're at the mercy of your parents

>>82442462
Getting frozen out because he's ugly

>>82442549
>doesn't answer the question while spending his time on the incel board
lmao, go back to plebbit\ and white knight more faggot

>>82440192
This. Take my advice, readers. Being the nice, agreeable ugly guy NEVER works out. You will 100% regret and give yourself bad memories

>>82443086
Im so sorry that happened to you man. I hope you found other friends

>>82440351
Yes there is. It's called Tinder and social media.

>>82440447
Nope. If you want to not be repellent, then you need to get taller, jacked, fix your jawline, and make sure you don't go bald. Your actions have nothing to do with whether people like you because, ultimately, your actions are judged based on your physical appearance.

>>82443033
Or just Chadfish to see how women behave around men they find attractive. Those guys live in an entirely different world with gender roles flipped. It was hard to believe until I saw it because most men are inherently unattractive to women and therefore never get to see anything like it.

Every man should chadfish to understand what women do when they think you're actually hot.

>>82443874
I did this back in the day. Took some random model off Insta who had about 40k followers and used his pics. Got matches every time I swiped right. Said some pretty crazy shit to them and they ate it up. Meanwhile, my actual main account with my profile got maybe 1 match every 50 swipes and it was usually a bot.

>>82438193
Aside from the "your brain doesn't mature until you're 25" bullshit people spout, the "wait for it" bullshit is the worst. People tell you that at 19 you have all the time in the world, then time flies, and when you open your eyes, you're a 27-year-old loser who's never had sex, doesn't have a decent job, and is still living in the same room as when you were a teenager, parasitizing your aging parents.

>>82438164 (OP)
autism
he has autism
you have autism
youre never going to make it
youre autistic
SUFFER

>>82438164 (OP)
>reddit banned him for this post...
Misinformation

>>82438164 (OP)
>he was stupid enough to actually wait

zoomies don't want to be told to go out either

>>82438164 (OP)
In a time of universal "just wait," rape is a revolutionary act

When people say just wait they mean when you get older you might grow some balls and stop being a whiny faggot

>>82440192
Great, great, point. Your social connections are only as good as the people around you. If you're kind and agreeable to evil people, you will get chewed up and spat out.

>>82445368
except when you realize life chooses people for different things you start to notice all the people who complain are careermaxed houseowners

>do nothing and dont try and give up
gee i wonder why this happened to me?
HOW COULD THIS OF HAPPENED!

>>82440079
>you have to get le money

no goal more empty in life, than pursuing money

>>82440122
>you can

not really, only your environment(Which itself is mostly out of your control) and becoming old can influence a little bit of meaningful change

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0092656602000107?via%3Dihub

>>82438536
snarky faggot