Thread 82483061

Except in highly religious cases you can safely assume that someone who is still a virgin by their twenties has a low sex drive. I hear all of you bitching about all manners of being horny and wanting to perform all manners of degeneracy with a partner yet insist they are virgins.

I know many people who post here are virgins so let me give you a slice of reality. Virgins SUCK at sex. They are timid, nervous, often have no idea how to pleasure themselves or their partner, and usually do not last more than a few minutes in missionary with the lights off before insisting you spend the next 12 hours in bed cuddling them if they even get wet enough to fuck in the first place.

Real life is not porn. It takes practice and education on how to fuck best to have a good time between the two of you.

Stop deluding yourselves and try to actually get laid with a woman who will let you enjoy yourself. By insisting you take a womans virginity you are greatly limiting yourself and all but insuring you are gonna have a bad time.

You do not want a hyper traditional trad wife for sex. You want the high off her ass emo bi chick who will make you cum harder than you thought possible

>>82483061 (OP)
>Why do you guys want to date virgins?
they are autistic weirdos who are obsessed with rules, and can't function in normal society so they sperg out here

>>82483061 (OP)
not reading any of that chatgpt generated gay shit

>>82483061 (OP)
>Virgins SUCK at sex
ok so i just have sex with her and shes not a virgin anymore. problem solved.

>>82483061 (OP)
because they're entirely capable of pairbonding and they will always compare the hung swave abusechads theyve been to you. and its disgusting to think that your loving wife was gangbanged by 7 guys while you were a loser virgin in highschool, and now wanst to settle down with you. yikes

sorry but nobody wants to emotionally commit to whores
you cant make a whore into a housewife

>>82483071
Anon I am talking about quite litteraly putting my penis inside a consenting womans vagina. I think by definition that cannot be gay

>>82483084
>because they're entirely capable
oops i meant to say incapable
whoopsies

and i think non-virgin women are great to be used as cumsocks. you're only use is for casual sex thats it

>>82483061 (OP)
>They are timid, nervous, often have no idea how to pleasure themselves or their partner, and usually do not last more than a few minutes in missionary with the lights off before insisting you spend the next 12 hours in bed cuddling them if they even get wet enough to fuck in the first place.
This is what I want, also this lmao >>82483071
Kys sex having scum non virgins are disgusting.

>>82483124
Have fun not fucking. Idk what else to say anon. Your attitude sucks. Hope you are able to find someone who can appreciate you for who you are and shares your values but you cannot then shame others for enjoying themselves

>>82483084
well better become Amish i guess

>>82483061 (OP)
>Virgins SUCK at sex. They are timid, nervous, often have no idea how to pleasure themselves or their partner, and usually do not last more than a few minutes in missionary with the lights off before insisting you spend the next 12 hours in bed cuddling them if they even get wet enough to fuck in the first place.
literally why i want it, i want to grow with my partner, learn what makes them tick, slowly help them explore their sexual desires, experiencing the unadulterated first, i want both of us to be bad and just enjoy that we are learning together

>>82483235
Sounds like you know what you want then anon! Just be kind to others who want something else

>>82483061 (OP)
I'll bite for a moment, I don't have an issue with non-virgins. I'm in my later 20s so I know it's not even reasonable to assume.
I can't realistically see a woman with lots of sexual experience being okay with me being a virgin though. Not at my age. Hell, even when in college I felt weird for being one.
So I'm open, but also realistically don't put much faith in going for women I know have been with lots of men, since I just won't be good enough for them.

The only way robots will get a whore is when her whoring years are over and she's ready to settle. Then she's "not a sexual person," or the decade she spent fucking a different guy each week was just her "going through a rough patch."

>>82483257
shouldnt you say the same to op then? u seem to be picking who to bug about this half-assedly and its quite disengenuous

>>82483258
OP here. I get your worries anon. I am a dude so I cannot PROMISE you will not be judged but everyone has to start somewhere. If you find a woman who wants to fuck you I am very confident you being a virgin will not be a deal breaker. For some it is a huge plus! Taking someones virginity is a source of pride in a sexy kinda way for both genders. I bet more women would be flattered knowing they are your first than anything else. That was the case for me at least and absolutely zero regrets

>>82483296
I am OP genius. I am choosing to not engage with people who are trolling

>>82483336
making ragebait is just as bad tho?

>>82483348
Not even. These are all my genuine feelings. Get frustrated seeing anons here not getting laid, complaining about it and then limiting themselves so narrowly

>>82483061 (OP)
because I can't compete with chad's big dick, once she got a taste of the delicious chad, I won't stand a chance

>>82483061 (OP)
>It takes practice and education on how to fuck best to have a good time between the two of you.
And what's wrong with wanting to go through that journey with a fellow virgin?

>>82483369
Genuine copium so you can justify not putting yourself out there. Try again

>>82483061 (OP)
>>82483061 (OP)
>wanting to perform all manners of degeneracy with a partner yet insist they are virgins
You can be mentally degenerate and physically a virgin but I don't care about sex much anyways. Finding a woman who shares my perversions AND is a virgin is not possible with my uncaring attitude.
>Virgins SUCK at sex
I don't care.
>they are timid nervous often having mo idea how to pleasure themselves or their partner
Good. We can learn what we like physically together. I don't want a woman someone else taught how make them feel good.
>It takes practice and education on how to fuck best to have a good time between the two of you.
Exactly why I want a virgin.
>you are greatly limiting yourself and all but insuring you are gonna have a bad time.
I do not care.
>You do not want a hyper traditional trad wife for sex
Sex is not that important to me and I don't want a hyper traditional trad wife anyway THOUGH she should fine with martial rape so it doesn't matter what she wants and when I consider that a trad wife can't be too bad. You don't need to be "trad" (LMFAO at calling degenerate 50's trad) to be a virgin anyway.

>>82483379
I guess nothing? I just think saying it can happen ONLY with another virgin is the issue. Fine to have preferences but that is like saying you will only date someone with hazel eyes or who is five two or any other arbitrary metric in my eyes

>>82483366
still generalizing with ur post op and just fueling the divide and disconnect, then again only ragebait gets replies
but also sex is always abundant, people are human and will always have standards, most dont just want to fuck a hole, and have a legitimate connection with said person, if people just wanted sex only, they could just download tinder, guys are always down to fuck, everyone is atleast a standardcel, tho alot of failed normies here too sadly

>>82483413
>tinder
meant grinder

>>82483061 (OP)
Okay, let me give you a slice of reality; you're as cool as you think you are just because you can talk about sex from experience and gloat to a bunch of inexperienced fags. You're just a grand standing nigger that don't have anyone who would listen to your bullshit in real life so you have to do it with strangers online.

>>82483397
>has to be ok with rape
Seek professional help

>>82483426
Glad you are having a good day too anon!

>>82483061 (OP)
>Why do you guys want to date virgins
Self conscious about previous partners being better than them. Really the only reason, everything else is a cope.

>>82483430
>ignores the fact martial rape is traditional as fuark
"Trad" "wives"

>>82483459
I am trying to help them get over that and be able to enjoy themselves shhh

I'm not like the other incels. I love sluts (as long as they don't have tattoos) but they won't have sex with me

>>82483366
>Get frustrated seeing anons here not getting laid
what's it to you?

>>82483506
Because I LOVE high libido women, I have not gotten laid in a long time and then seeing anons here scare off the few Femanons that DO come here looking to flirt or are open to horny nonsense drives me up a wall

>>82483324
>If you find a woman who wants to fuck you
that is skipping way too many steps for people that didn't even had their first kiss yet.
>>82483324
>I bet more women would be flattered knowing they are your first than anything else. That was the case for me
of course the faggot assumes everyone else will have the same experience as him

>>82483487
Wrong. Keep working out and putting yourself out there anon. I am rooting for you!

>>82483570
Because I LOVE high libido women, I have not gotten laid in a long time--
i asked you a question

>>82483583
I actually have been working out recently and it's making me feel a lot better. Where do I go to find non trashy sluts?

>>82483061 (OP)
I didn't screenshot the pasta but I saved the text becuase it summed up my thoughts so well;

>I wanted your youth and your beauty. I wanted the best of you. I wanted you when you could still feel wonder and a rapturous sense of childlike excitement. I wanted you when you were "finding yourself" on the grand "adventure" of your twenties. I wanted to experience firsts with you and to struggle alongside you. I wanted you there when I was lonely and struggling and there was nobody to talk to, nobody to share anything with, nobody to experience this cool thing with or to be there to witness a day's passage with me.
>You shared those things with other men who excited you more. They were worthy of having it for free, or for the cost of a cheap beer, or for just BEING their hot selves. They were appreciated so completely and on such a primal level that your cunt said, "More of this man ought to exist," and you decided to mate with them. They got your flings, your wild escapades, your free and adventurous spirit, whatever romantic terms you want to use. They got you for a much lower cost, or a nonexistent one. They got your youth, your passion, your beauty, your excitement, the fond memories of your body at its peak to spank it to for the rest of your lives, and the validation of knowing they were worthy of all of it just for being the kind of men that got your cunt wet. And now that you're ready to settle down and have a nice cache of fond memories to look back on, NOW I'm worthy of your used-up ugly cunt and I should feel like I lucked out? Yay, lucky me? How insulting.

I will add my own thoughts in a second post just becuase of the word limit, but this anon did an amazing job summing things up. I love seeing other anons who resonate with me. I genuinely love seeing these guys exist and it's not just about physical sex becuase that dominates the topic and obscures the emotional/spiritual elements.
1/2

>>82483573
At some point you just gotta take the leap of faith anon. Have a girl take your first kiss and your virginity in the same night fuck it. Get a little beer in you, get some friends to egg you for band just send it

>>82483621
nonsense faggotry, you may as well speak greek

>>82483609
Good for you anon! Depends on age desu. If in college force yourself to go to parties. If in twenties go clubbing. If after you gotta pay for one of the music festival tickets but they are hella expensive

>>82483629
>fag
>giving advice on having heterosexual sex
???

>>82483644
>wanting other men to have sex
yet again, what's it to you?

>>82483061 (OP)
It MUST be low sex drive if you don't give away your body and most important moment in trust and love building to the first highschool hottie you see.

>>82483655
>wanting to help my fellow man because I relate to feeling undesirable and know how painful that is
>this empathy is framed as a bad thing
Fuck off

>>82483470
you should go help yourself, you need it

>>82483470
It's pride and arrogance to think you can convince someone of things they do not want to hear

>>82483061 (OP)
I don't care about virginity. I'm not a trad or right wing or whatever. Why can't females lower their standards and date me? Why do they only want the chads who care about virginity? It's stupid that females are so picky

>>82483707
>this empathy is framed as a bad thing
it's condescending, why do you assume anyone would need your "help" (useless words) just because you got your dick wet.
>wanting to help my fellow man because--
you want to flex, because you can't do it to people in your daily life since there's no one you know that's below you

>>82483615
2/2
The reason I love the post is it highlightsthe overlooked parts. The fact you didn't grow and build memories together as a couple, this alone is a sad thing, it gets even more painful when you realize you did give those things to other men. Not only did you give them to other men who didn't stick with you after the fact, but now you are incapable of giving me that same thing. You're not innocent, you may say you love someone buy it will never be as true, never be something YOU believe as strongly as it was teh first time you were intimate with. That time you really meant it and had visions of a life together. How can you even talk of a life together when you spend half your life with other men?

I don't have an issue with older women who are virgins, they lose youth but retain innocence and can still feel those emotions, that romantic, naive, intoxicating ideal of love, I disagree with the original comment there, but you 100% won't get that with non-virgins simply because it is, by virtue of you doing it with multiple people, not as special as those who have only ever had a sexual relation with their spouse. Even if sex is bad physically, it can be practiced to improve. But the intimacy I crave is something you can't improve when it's given away. Honestly, how is sex with your husband special, when everything you do with him, was done before with multiple other men? It isn't special, lets be honest. The first time you were nervous and vulnerable but risked it anyway becuase you loved the person that much. Now people are jaded and numb enough to shag random strangers. When these people were younger they had butterflies from the prospect of a first kiss, now they can risk falling pregnant, dying in childbirth, having their DNA forever entwined with another, and they feel nothing. You're not more experienced than virgins, you're more jaded, blunt and unfeeling. My emotional needs won't be met with this relationship, so why bother with a non-virgin?

>>82483791
I do not know what I can say to make you believe I am doing this in good faith. Maybe you do not want to believe me. All I can give you is my word

>>82483813
you're not a better person because of your lack of virginity, you just think you are

>>82483061 (OP)
I wanna be able to kiss her down below without worrying about it also being an indirect kiss of a mans pp. Also women lose their ability to pair bond making relationships less likely to last which damages mens ability to pair bond. Just mate for like as God intended fags.

>>82483061 (OP)
>you can safely assume that someone who is still a virgin by their twenties has a low sex drive.

It's called self control, especially if the reason you abstain is because your husband would prefer it. Like it or not, what the guy wants matters too

>all of you bitching about all manners of being horny and wanting to perform all manners of degeneracy with a partner yet insist they are virgins

Virgins can want to do this these things too. There's no prerequiste amount of pussy you need to slay in order to develop a maid fetish

>Virgins SUCK at sex.

Refer to my previous point about virgins wanting sex too. Besides, we all know the guy is gonna end up doing all the work most of the time anyway. You act like sluts are these dick riding champions that can make you bust in seconds. Most of you are starfishes, which fine by me. Like most men I dont need my woman to do anything except lay there, look hot and let me use her body like she's a sentient pocket pussy.

>It takes practice and education on how to fuck best to have a good time

The average married couple has sex twice a week. That's over 100 times per year, and a good marriage lasts several decades. We're going to get plenty of practice

>try to actually get laid with a woman who will let you enjoy yourself.

Refer to my previous point about virgins wanting sex too.

>You want the high off her ass emo bi chick who will make you cum harder than you thought possible

I want a trad wife for child rearing purposes. You know, the actual purpose of marriage.

men and women value different things. You think being a slut makes you high value because you think men who slay lots of pussy are high value. Men do not. virgins are peak diserability. Specifically, hot virgins. No sudai prince is paying millions to fuck a slut. they are paying millions to take a hot chick's virginity.

tldr you know nothing of male preferences and are mad cause men only want to fuck (but never marry) you. you did it yourself

>>82483864
>I want a trad wife for child rearing purposes. You know, the actual purpose of marriage
That's never happening also you would cheat on your wife after she gives birth and gets fat

>>82483918
im not sure how your picrel is condusive to your point, unless you're implying trump voting men would ever marry harris voting women. Besides, i wouldnt need to cheat if the bitch didnt get fat, which trad wives dont since they understand the importance of maintaining beauty. say what you will about tradwives, they are objectively hot

>>82483164
>Have fun not fucking. Idk what else to say anon
yeah i mean girls dont want to sex me either way? im a incel for a reason?


>Your attitude sucks
no. your entitlement sucks. you are not entitled to men liking used up whores. sorry not sorry. nobody wants a can of coke that had 42 dicks in it

>Hope you are able to find someone who can appreciate you for who you are and shares your values
yeah i hope so too

>but you cannot then shame others for enjoying themselves
yeah i think so too. thing is, i can just refuse to do emotionally commit to them. they are walking onaholes to me

>>82483061 (OP)
>You do not want a hyper traditional trad wife for sex. You want the high off her ass emo bi chick who will make you cum harder than you thought possible
I want neither.
I want Total Foid Death

Because I want a wife, not some ex-whore.

>>82483978
>Besides, i wouldnt need to cheat if the bitch didnt get fat, which trad wives dont since they understand the importance of maintaining beauty. say what you will about tradwives, they are objectively hot
You never heard of the Coolidge effect lmao it's why boomers got the 7-year itch. Men are biologically rigged to spread their genes and after you've knocked up one foid your mind is set to move on to the next

>>82483061 (OP)
because i want someone who is comparable to me in experience?

>>82483061 (OP)
I dunno. Why do I want to date women instead of men? Because my brain works that way. That's that. Also, it would help your case if you stopped being retarded and telling people what they should want. That's entirely up to them, and it's extremely arrogant to think you have any say in that. Mind your own business.

>>82483061 (OP)
Naddusish

>>82483831
no, I don't think i'm better at all. I think I am slowly climbing out of the toxic manosphere and seeing all the damage it as done to me I have empathy for those who were in a similar situation to me and I am trying to help

>>82483061 (OP)
>someone who is still a virgin by their twenties has a low sex drive
hahahaHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHA fuck you
kill yourself. i know this is some gpt shit or bait or whatever and was made without a shred of honesty, but im telling you to jump anyways

>>82483071
Is chatgpt the ultimate reddit spacing poster?

>>82485357
>manosphere
Fuck off, interloper!
NORMIES OUT!

What's the over/under on the OP being one of those "EXTREMISM RESEARCHER" faggots who is just shilling?

>>82483459
The more sexual partners a woman has had, the more inevitable it is that some of them will have been better than you in some respects.
As all things are relative, she will always subconsciously compare you against the best qualities and talents of each, reducing her satisfaction.
Promiscuous women are thus less fulfilled by their partners and more likely to become dissatisfied and resentful, hence their propensity for divorce.

It's not about "failing to measure up".
It's about avoiding someone who has primed themselves to be a poor partner.

Doesn't apply to men because of their substantially higher sex drive, lower standards, and self-gratification.

>>82485736
That's this entire website, amigo.
Just a bunch of social "scientists" (i.e. leftist propaganda researchers) trying to decipher and exploit the human soul.
They will never succeed because they have discarded their own in favor of numbers and nihilism.

>>82483061 (OP)
This reads like a bot wrote it.

>>82483061 (OP)
You would not buy a used Fleshlight.

Not even if it was washed.