Thread 82501634

There is zero difference with a prostitute and a woman with more than one body count. Both are equally disgusting.

>>82501634 (OP)
You just want a child

>>82501634 (OP)
ture. you have 1 chance to pair bond properly and then its just another cock, another bf. thats why modern roasties are so bad to date

>>82501634 (OP)
Yeah, all the rest is cope
>but it wasn't casual outings, it was serious relationships
>trying to find themselves
>he manipulated me
>etc
All excuses

>>82501641
>have 1 chance to pair bond
why do incels think like this? It's very dehumanizing.
If by a miracle you got a chance with a girl but you two break up eventually, then you are no longer fit for love for the rest of your life?
Delusional

>>82501729
Can you repeat? It's doing too much echo down there

>>82501640
Yes but that's besides the point and children aren't always virgins.

>>82501634 (OP)
Even normies believe this, which is why they hate a woman like Boonie Blue.
>uuuh yeah 2000 different men, that is totally evil
>my wife having 20 sexual partners? That is normal you fucking chudcel

>>82501746
chad doesn't care about virginity but incels do. There's a deeper lesson here somewhere

>>82501759
Chad only wants to pump and dump he cares about it when he wants to settle down.

>>82501759
Being a chad doesn't stop a man from being a cuck. There's even gay chads, your point?

>>82501739
it doesn't apply to males retard

>>82501759
chads are manwhores but they wont marry their slut-match, they want virgin wives too. thats why 100 times pumped and dumped stacy ends up with a beta provider not chad

>>82501739
Correct, that's why you wait for marriage honey.
>>82501729
Having morals and reservations about going inside another person should be common, if you're going to be a literal whore for 10+ guys, then don't expect people to respect your opinion of them.

>>82501640
telegony, woman retain the dna of the guys that creampie them

>>82501739
>very dehumanizing
If you cut yourself with a knife, you'll bleed. Where's the dehumanization? He's just stating a fact

>>82501739
why would you spend the rest of your life with your 37th bf/hookup? hes not special. you might tolerate him as long as he can entertain you or provide some benefits (sexual or monetary) but its always just another random guy. your pair bonding ability is so diminished by that point you could wake up and decide to kick him out any given morning

>>82501640
>all women that aren't a child are sluts
Women that hate virginity are more misogynistic than any incel

>>82501770
No, he doesn't. He understands that body count doesn't define anyone like it doesn't define him.

>>82501777
My point is that the archetype of a hustler who's good with women and the archetype of a lonely virgin have completely different viewpoints about virginity. Which one would you prefer to be

>>82501780
Lmao the incel double standard.
It doesn't apply to anyone

>>82501850
>Which one would you prefer to be
I do not care how people see me. I'm a man, not a woman that relies on external validation to exist

>>82501839
Just say you are a whore and now try to act like it is not big deal.

>>82501791
omg do you actually believe that honestly? Your joking right

>>82501783
>they wont marry their slut-match
They do it all the time. They're above and beyond the worries of the lonely virgins. Carrying that much about virginity is silly. Chad doesn't care.

>>82501850
that "incel" viewpoint on virginity was common in almost every civilization including the west for thousands of years. it only became "weird" in the past few decades. and we all know what happened to marriage, dating and having kids in those past few decades. you are not normal and sane, just a product of a fucked up time. your morals are wrong and unfit for a stable society.

>>82501874
your roastie gf is carrying the dna of a thousand chads lmao, its just science

>>82501786
That's how you end up alone in this board.
Your reservations are ludicrous if you think a person is "broken beyond repair" and "good for nothing" after one failed relationship. You are treating them as disposable objects actually.

>>82501865
So the lonely virgin, then? Alright you're on the right path

>>82501885
im not a man and it doesnt work like that hihiih

>>82501806
There's no fact in it. You can have a loving relationship with someone, break up, move on with your life, and find love somewhere else.
It boggles the mind of the virgin who has never experienced any loving relationship at all

>>82501850
Being good with women benefits me in what way besides having used pussy to fuck?

>>82501886
>i got my leggs cut off and now you treat my like i have no leggs? fucking incel chud, have some respect!
roasties lol. reality is reality even if its disrespectful to your feelings. used up roasties cannot pair bond

>>82501911
Don't you know what is a fact? It's literally biology, your sentimentalism doesn't change that

>>82501830
Why do you put so much weight on the number of partners instead of the connection you two have? What makes a relationship special is not what number you occupy in the body count list. It's the choice of being together.
Basically you are obsessed about something that doesn't really matter to a relationship, because that's the one thing you don't have as a virgin.
We always obsess over the things we can't have

>>82501759
chad doesn't care about this because he doesn't have to worry.
Chud/normie sees a high body count woman and his first thoughts are "Who's she gonna be comparing me to?"
Sounds shallow but it isn't unjustified. At that point it's safer to assume her game is betabuxx. We all know how that shit ends.
Women are incapable of genuine love for a man, while men easily fall in love with women. We have more to risk in getting attached to someone who can fuck our lives up. While you think "Oh he's useless then", cry a bit about the time you wasted on him, and move on.
Everyone's seen the horror stories of getting feelings for a slut. Chad doesn't have to worry about that because he has a natural affinity for sluts, he doesn't have to worry about competing over a woman, he just exists and they choose him. He's been conditioned (by you) to see you all as walking talking onaholes and keeps you at a distance, which is arguably the wise thing to do.

>>82501922
Don't bother. Women don't know what is fact or logic. You can show a dozen papers and they still would reject it because they literally can't see objective reality

>>82501634 (OP)
first of all, im a male virgin and i disagree with you

no. i think the difference is that im capable of pairbonding but she isnt

the reason why i want a virgin gf DESPITE being conceptually okay with being a manwhole is because its a argument from my dream girl. i just want my dream girl. and in my dreams, i can imagine ANYTHING about a girl

anything anything anything anything i want, and its mine, in my dreams. and i choose what makes me happy

and i want a girl who just gives me what i want, and spoils me. and im selfish and self-centered. i want to tell her while im cuddling with her that i find her friends sexy, her sisters sexy, this and that girl sexy, and force her to masturbate to the idea, while i lightly strangle her from behind and get her normalized to all of my self absorbed fetishes

in my dreams i dont think ill ever be sexually attracted to 1 girl, so she just has to accept that. and my dream girl would accept me and embrace me as i am. im not interested in some cucked redditor relationship where the girl bosses me around and whooha this and that

i want to bully a girl into subservient submission and rub it in her face haha
my problem is im autistic and shy, not that im a virgin or not

>"but heckerino thats not fair and thats not inclusive to sluts with 40 bodies and waa waa waa waaa"
ok ok then were not meant to be and im dying alone, i dont give a hoot, but if i get a dream girl she will be like my dreams, which is embracing me

and why yes i am a basic bitch who listen to vivaldi and puts almond milk in my covfefe, thank you
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KY1p-FmjT1M

>>82501922
Our biology is built on promiscuity, so you really have no idea what you're talking about.
Facts don't care about your feelings, and your want for a virgin is just a feeling, anon.

>>82501932
This is an incel echo chamber so you really came here to escape objective reality and build your own incel reality instead

>>82501932
those papers areny always true.

>>82501935
>i just want my dream
Real life is so far away from your dreams. It's something most incels have trouble coping with.

why cant roasties simply accept that they ruined their bodies and minds by being promiscuous? i feel like if they accepted reality they could at least try to correct for it a bit and act in a more reasonable way and be better gfs

>>82501941
>Our biology is built on promiscuity,
How does that co tradict him ?
>you want to win this fight, but you dont want your ennemy to win, hypocrit!
type of shit

>>82501930
>Who's she gonna be comparing me to
The insecurity of the virgin man. There's no bigger ick to girls.

>>82501634 (OP)
anon if you find a woman that you sincerely love at first but end up not wanting to take your life in the same direction, don't want a child together or not at the same moment or whatever else. Why do you think the both of you should stay together and be miserable together. Why do you think you should be forbidden from trying to create a family with someone else ?

I mean, those are just rethorical questons, you can keep posting these threads on this board for decades to come, nobody's oblivious to the reason, which are your insecurities. Try to figure your way out of that hole you dug yourself into, you're only keeping yourself from living a fulfilling life as it is

>>82501941
Your oxytocin receptors degrade the more partners you've. The first one is the highest peak in your life. You can cope however you want, you just sound like a schizo trying to rebuke that the sky is blue

>>82501971
He's using the biology imperative to justify his want for a virgin
Forgetting about his biology imperative hardly makes a distinction between virgins and non virgins.

>>82501990
Your oxytocin receptors degrade with age.
Careful not to wait too long to lose your virginity wanting to be special, you might realize after it's too late, that you passed your prime joyful youthful years being lonely and bitter and no amount of virgin pussy can compensate for that.

Whores that don't admit they're whores are the most pathetic. Just admit that you're a hedonist slut, pretty simple
They talk about insecurity, but not accepting what you are is the most insecure thing you can do

>>82501918
>Compares the hymen to legs
Very dehumanizing.
Yes, reality is reality, including the reality of you being alone because of questionable wants and opinions

>>82501960
You sound like a degenerate. Being overly promiscuous can be bad for both men and women

>>82501953
broski doski shmoski goski hoski
listen here buckarino

if every girl is a whore
thats okie dokes
but im not catching feelings for none of them. okie dokes?
i will have no emotional relationships with them okay? none of that. they are walking onaholes to me. if you dont like that then skadaddle because thats just my preferences and im sticking to them

in my heart im only ever catching feelings for a non-virgin. men and women are not the same. im literally a virgin btw, but thats irrelevant

>but thats not practical
well, you see mr or misses online r9k shitposer....
if there is rotting garbage on the floor like weve been teleported to india or something
thats okay. but im not eating it
okay?
and if there is nothing but rotting garbage on the floor because chad had sex with all the virgins and left the losers like me with ran through hags?

than i will starve. starve to death emotionally alone all my life. regardless if im a virgin to sleep with all of them

because if she's not a virgin im not catching feelings for her in my cynical bitter little heart
okie? okay!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z2ISRMSIyX8

The amount of cucks and whores justifying things, yikes
Imagine being so secure that you're debate incels in a basket weaving site

>>82501876
>that "incel" viewpoint on virginity was common in almost every civilization
Like slavery was common, and torturous methods of capital punishment, and other misguided outdated practices.
You are using a fallacy called appeal to history.
Killing handicapped newborns was once common too.

>>82502035
The amounts of incels choosing loneliness because of prejudices is very sad actually

>>82502029
>in my heart im only ever catching feelings for a non-virgin
whoopsies i meant im only catching feelings for a virgin
i constantly make these logical mistakes, spelling mistakes, thought process mistakes
im getting old and intellectually infertile

>>82502027
men are different than women. take it up with evolution. this only applies to roasties

>>82502038
>Like slavery was common
Slavery exist today. You probably also is a slave
>torturous methods of capital punishment
It exists today
>Killing handicapped newborns
IT EXISTS TODAY

For fucks sake, there's no big retards than the ones that believe that modern humans are evolved. We're the exact fucking same, just change the wrapping to sound more moral

>>82502052
That's a parapraxis that shows us you're not too far gone. You slipped up good in there, revealing a whole new side of you

>>82502052
maybe your just stupid because of your way of thinking and because of this giant cirkel jerk.

>>82501978
boo hoo
your alternative is being a fleshlight worth nothing to a guy who could just get another fleshlight when he gets bored of you or you annoy him. you will; you're not that funny or interesting. You never had to evolve to entertain the opposite sex beyond smiling, flaunting your ass and tits. You'll see him on the couch one day, get pissed off that he is relaxing, huff and walk past, and he'll leave you for the next fleshlight :)
Being a virgin is a better alternative to what awaits you, and when the fallout of hormones dissipates you'll realize it too.

>>82502047
>The amounts of incels choosing loneliness because of prejudices is very sad actually
errmm... nyactually... prejudice is defined as:
"preconceived opinion that is not based on reason or actual experience."

the problem is, mr or misses local online r9k shitposter, is that disgust towards non-virgins IS justified, as shown by my little graph here! >>82501935

this graph shows why is perfectly justified to think of non-virgin women as used up whores. not to mention, its not unreasonable to find whores disgusting for the same reason why id find anything disgusting that had someone else's dick in it

thats not unreasonable by any means!
sorry not sorry
but whores are disgusting nasty filthy creatures
it sucks that every women is like this
but life sucks for us sorry losers on r9k!

>>82502065
you just want a excuse to be a man whore but no women want so be one with you.

>>82502038
>everyone was evil and barbaric until 80 years ago when we discovered morality
and you are using liberal thinking. society cannot function based on your values. take away technology and 3rd world mass immigration and the west would collapse in 2 weeks

>>82502070
And the incel virginity culture also exists today. The fallacy is using history to justify this existence.
A practice can be a thousand years old and still be wrong.

>>82502038
And you're using a fallacy called chronological snobbery
>old bad
>modern good

Ackychually statistics show a mostly linear effect between body count and divorce rate

whats with the used up whore defending her hookups and "fun past" like her life depends on it

>>82502085
It's funny because these very graphs you hide behind, show a number of successful relationships with promiscuous people.
You sometimes forget that people are not statistics. Even in your incel brigade statistics, there's still a 30% success rate for marriages with these so called promiscuous girls, meaning thousands upon thousands of couples like that living better lives than yours.

>>82502091
its not an excuse
its what i want
i dont need an excuse to want 2 cups of oats, 1 cup of frozen berries, a small handful of walnuts, some cinamon, some sugar, a cut red delicious, with a nice covfefe to gulp it down with
there is nothing wrong wanting what i want, whatever it may be. i dont need an excuse to want what i want, as theres nothing wrong with that! sorry! but im not actually sorry... hehe

if you dont like it, thats fine. but PLEASE dont shame what i want.... okay?
please dont shame me for my preferences, as theres nothing wrong with them

and i dont catch feelings for whores!
no thankies! nope! sorry but im not actually sorry.... hehe

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QxHkLdQy5f0

>>82502136
>what's up with the disturbance in my echo chamber
You really thought this was your personal safe space, didn't you? Poor chud. Surrounded by normies and sex havers everywhere he goes

>>82501634 (OP)
All in all you must look ate their political beliefs, if they see slut behavior as something positive and liberating that shouldnt be frowned upon at all, they certainly will 100% cuck you multiple times with multiple people behind your back, given enough time, even if by a miracle they happen to be virgin. Instead of maybe if they think whores are degenerates, I dont know why people make it so complicated when its just that

>>82502142
nice recipe but you are lying you do catch feelings for whores.

>>82502138
>show a number of successful relationships with promiscuous people.
yeah, i mean sure. some people survive war. but its still a dangerous place you'd want to avoid, right?
some marriages last and are great. but most are miserable, arent they?
some people get out unscathed in prison... but most have trauma from it, you know?

and im not so arrogant to think im anything special. god know im just as much of a pathetic, selfish, hypocritical, self-centered trashcan as anyone else. and i just dont think im special, you know?

if the data shows the vast majority of whores are unlovable vermin that are incapable of commitment, than ill trust the data! im a simple man, and i think its more epistemically sound to do so that follow the diatribes of cucks who normalize loving ran through whores!

yeppers. while i browse reddit for their ai subs, i dont browse or agree with reddit with their relatinships advice.. sorry!

The things that make women novel (their ass, tits, face) are no longer novel when it's easy to get. This is why you get pumped and dumped, because you are genuinely awful people, you give chad no reason to stick around. You're bitchy, whiny, uninteresting, demanding, retarded bpd roasties, and in chads eyes a responsibility he doesn't need since he can get pussy either way.
If there were no simps this might be obvious to you; but continue debasing yourselves if that's how you think to get back at us evil chuddies. See how far you sink, how you're left wanting.

>>82502136
Just like a child rapist gets defensive when you say he's child rapist instead of just rejecting it
>you're comparing sex with child rape
Go to the "I don't understand analogies" corner

ill be honest, i have a gf who wasnt a virgin but i resent her and when we argue i often remind her that i had to settle for an used up girl because i couldnt get a virgin one. she ruined our relationship with her past actions

>>82502196
Girls dont actually get pumped and dumped. Thats a fake concept that god designed for the purpose of cuckolding torture of the real humans. God hooks up his clones sexually, we see him reference this fact over and over. Jesus is cumming. We cum in peace. Satan is a bull, like a black bull. Kingdom cum. He writes almost all the cuckolding content about chads and shit, because he is using cuckolding as a method of torture. Why? I dont know yet. So theres a couple theories obviously.

>>82502183
theres something so profoundly depressing with trying to emotionally commit to a whore

im a 30+ virgin. a wizard, if you will

a girl who was a slut since she was 14 for everyi single chad, laughed at losers like me who could never get any hot sexy cunny, and was just a massive whore who enjoyed all the attention and power she got for being sexy and a female her entire life

and now that she's a old hag and no sexy boys want her... she needs some schmuck to settle down with...

its so depressing... its not fair... i hate her
i hate thinking about her. i have lots of retroactive jealousy
jsut the THOUGHT of a whore like this commanding me

>"i dont like the way your room looks, lets change it!"
>"the past is the past, let it go, it doesnt matter, im now with you!"
>"im not like i was before"

its so vile. she wouldnt be able to love or embrace me either. i hate just thinking about her. id rather die alone with dignity thanks
so nasty and repulsive i hate her

>>82502121
Not really, you're the one who brought time frames into the discussion like they were an argument. I never even mentioned history until you came up with your fallacy. Weak rhetoric by the way

>>82502097
>>everyone was evil
Never said that. You're putting words in my mouth because you have no arguments.
It's just a fallacy to say that something is good because it has existed since the dawn of civilization.

>>82502228
oh that must be so hard try to find a thing to distract you from such things.
Why is that called a wizard?

>>82502228
>whore hater
>30+ virgin
With that incel mindset, you will be a 40+ virgin in no time.
Imagine being a 30 yo celibate and still fixating on your "dream girl" over the reality of life. How grim. It's like an inspiration to younger men to not become like you.

>>82502262
if something was normal in every society except in the post ww2 west then theres a good chance its a healthy thing to have. its not always true like the extreme examples you mentioned but its a good general rule.

I saw the most Indian looking Indian woman ever today. She was like a goblin tier girl, short with an inverted face and like a type of moustache 5 o clock shadow and this gross thin hair. I would probably still smash but she probably has a boyfriend already. Indian girls are huge whores because they are incarnations of demons, all the demons do is fuck, work and eat. Theyre disgusting abominations. They dont even talk because theyre already billions of years old, we actually share this reality with immortal demons dude. Its fucking awful, thats the worst possible thing. And it explains everything. But yeah some of their bodies are really fucking ugly, but they still talk the most shit to us online.

>>82502275
>It's like an inspiration to younger men to not become like you
I'd rather be like him than a cuck that accepts used goods

>>82502228
i feel for you bro

it says something very profound when someone rejects you when she can choose, but wants you when she has less options. foids and normies will gaslight about this but its pretty obvious.

i dont think women become less attractive at 30, but if she did, and she now wants you and she didn't when she was hot and popular, this is 100% her wanting a schmuck to settle down with

>>82502272
>Why is that called a wizard?
its just a joke

to me, a lifetime of being denied sex for a condition we're born with (being ugly) is not something to joke with. i wouldnt call myself a "wizard". but i respect it.

>>82502275
fucking gaslighting retard jfl

>>82502303
is there at least anything you can do to make you feel better because if there are things you can change like your perspective on life that can be helpful .

>>82502272
i cannot be distracted from the core truth
and the truth is im jealous and selfish, and i find a whore repulsive
no thankies sorry
not form me sorry
theres lots of guys who like whores and whatnot. you'll find your little simp cuck shmuck redditor if you wanted. hes always there for you

just not me. i dont catch feelings for nasty whores NO THANKS i dont care

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RkENy3t_fgQ

>>82502275
ye im dying a loser virgin, fer sure fer sure
its my cursed fate god really loves me so much
thank you god for the wonderful live youve given me. your divine loving benevolence shines in the world you have created for me. its a blessing to be in a relationship with you god

and if i could id have prosmiscous sex with said whores (if they were hot and sexy and young)
i tried to go to a prostitute but couldnt get hard and awkwardly waddled out of there. im just poor, shy and have zero rizz

but im never eva eva catching feelings for no sluts

>>82502279
>f something was normal in every society except in the post ww2 west then theres a good chance its a healthy
That's again the fallacy of appealing to history.
Like contaminating food and cosmetics with lead and other heavy metals was pretty common back then. And bloodletting as the standard treatment for everything. And mutilating baby's penises. And slavery. The list goes on.
If you can prove the benefit of certain practice, certainly you could do it without relying on tradition?

>>82502297
Dude it doesnt even work that way. Sex was actually so impossible that god needed to lie about what was happening using words and depictions. Because if you ever started to listen to what people say, youd definitely notice something was up. He clones himself and plaps his own clones. He makes the porn, one of his objectives was to make a lot of porn for us to watch. He also writes a lot of fake romance tier shit, none of that is real. Couples arent forming through online dating, or meeting at schools or work, thats all totally fake. Your sex life is literally binary, its a 0 or 1 that god decides. For everyone, although most of the people are his clones and it doesnt make a sound whatsoever. Like you literally cant fuck up a relationship, because god is merely deciding when you break up, or when you dont. Its really retarded, and has nothing to do with what you say or do.

>>82502326
anons just provided scientific facts about trace dna and pair bonding but you wont accept those either.

>>82502325
>im dying a loser virgin
At least you're honest about it, most incels aren't.
It's just so baffling that you guys come here to propagandize your view that dating whores is no good, when you have such miserable lonely lives because of these beliefs.
It's like trying to convince others that you have the right opinion, but if the right opinion has led you to such a miserable wasted life, maybe boys should strive do be wrong. Anything to not end up like you.

>>82502343
>Pair bonding
He actually provided graphs that show a number of successful relationships with high body count individuals, so the scientific "fact" doesn't work like you intended.
You can only argue that having a lower body number increases the rate of success, but not even your own statistics can deny that there are successful alternatives out there. People are not statistics after all, they're individuals.
After all, life is not about following the best path there is. That's the 30+ loser virgin mentality.
Life is about doing the best you can

>>82502348
>but if the right opinion has led you to such a miserable wasted life
That's so retarded. Right doesn't mean feel good
>maybe boys should strive do be wrong
Pure hedonism. No convictions. Just feel good for the sake of feeling good

>>82502325
I never ment it as go after a so called whore im just saying try to find a distraction and fix the core simultaneously

>>82502348
>come here to propagandize your view that dating whores is no good
because it isnt, bro. they're good for nothing but wiping cum off your winky dink

>when you have such miserable lonely lives because of these beliefs.
the usefulness of a belief doesnt dictate its validity. if you could take the bluepill, and believe falsehoods to have a better life, then you'd be living in a fake world where you lie to yourself

this would be a better life, but one based on lies. id rather know the truth and suffer. i think thats how you ought to live life, based on a search for truth

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CgjknaWVChY

>It's like trying to convince others that you have the right opinion, but if the right opinion has led you to such a miserable wasted life, maybe boys should strive do be wrong. Anything to not end up like you
yeah. taking the bluepill and believing convenient comforting fantasies is pleasant. but its willfully ignorant, isnt it?
and its kind of pathetic to want to believe falsities for convenience, isnt it?

all men throughout history all wanted a virgin. no man wanted to love a whore. this new whore worshipping society isnt normal nor natural. its nasty nasty nasty

>>82502382
>Being right costed me my happiness and my only chance of experiencing love on the universe
I'd wager this is the retardation. Letting your feelings and your distorted principles ruin your happiness and doom you to loneliness forever. So fucking grim.
The price is too high, anon. You don't have to pay it

>>82502348
>but if the right opinion has led you to such a miserable wasted life, maybe boys should strive do be wrong
Being against slavery back then was the right decision but also the miserable one since nobles would want your head

>>82501983
>insecurities insecurities insecurities
You are just unreliable. Youve failed not one but multiple people, its perfectly reasonable to want to avoid you. Every single 'I Love You', every single expression of love amounted to nothing in the end. Not wanting to deal with an unreliable person does not make one insecure, in fact quite the opposite. Going after every single girl regardless of her past and behavioral patterns is a desperate move. It shows a scarcity mindset. A scarcity mindset is usually present in a person that is insecure.

Definition of Insecure:
>having little faith in yourself or your own abilities

Men who go after roasties do so only because they dont believe they can actually do better. They go after whatever is available.

THE MAN THAT IS OK WITH YOUR PAST IS ONLY OK BECAUSE HE HAS NO OPTIONS. HE IS INSECURE, THAT IS WHY YOUR RELATIONSHIPS FAIL. You are dating a spineless bitch who cant uphold a single virtue.
You are dating a weasley little cunt of a guy who relies on your dogshit judgement for pleasure. Your dating experience isnt a testament to your popularity, it is a testament to what kind of failure you are. A sane, mentally and emotionally mature person sticks with a person they love for the rest of their life, through thick and thin. They dont go all out with all 3 holes ready for plowing without getting to seriously know their partner. You, on the other hand, think its better to be with ANYONE rather than the right person. This SCREAMS desperation, insecurity, fear, doubt, nihilism and by extension- hedonism.

>>82501739
Why would later partners last when previous ones didn't? You're now used to relationships and breakups, people get desentsitized and no longer get a special feeling, so people are more disposable.
Lastly, you can date someone without fucking them.

>>82502403
>the miserable one
Not for a freed slave. The miserable path was being enslaved.
Being right is not always easy, but you should choose your battles carefully.
Being a 30+ lonely virgin because you hate sluts sounds like the dumbest hill to die on

did this dude just compared being an anti slavery abolitionist to a whore hating incel? Darling you're on the opposite side of that debate, back then you would be the one defending slavery

>>82502348
>when you have such miserable lonely lives because of these beliefs.
No, we are lonely and miserable because the average woman, an adult child hedonist lacking empathy, has just been given the keys to our lives, and our slow painful extinction; because they are sadists who instead of killing us quickly, demand we fill the role of men, and take responsibility for chads shitsmear on the wall, while never treating us as men. We have always been a convenient fall-guy for chads actions, because we're easy to hate.
I never developed social comfort because my 100% effort was treated the same as chads 10%. That motherfucker has never had to *try* a day in his life, so he doesn't care to, he doesn't expect anything to go wrong for him, which ironically makes people treat him even better. It creates a feedback loop much in the same way as mine.
The difference between chad and chud mentality is formative trauma from their peers.

>>82502456
You are acting like such a whiny child.

>>82502452
See, you guys can't even take a simple Reductio ad Absurdum. Pure hypocrites without intelect, just agrees thoughtless with what appears to be correct

>>82502400
>>Being right costed me my happiness and my only chance of experiencing love on the universe
Sexual relationships aren't the only love you can experience. My mother loves me, my sister loves me, my friend loves me, etc
>Letting your feelings and your distorted principles ruin your happiness
Again, that's a hedonistic worldview where only happiness matter, and that world view can fall in a slippery slope extremely easily

>>82502439
>Being a 30+ lonely virgin because you hate sluts sounds like the dumbest hill to die on
Sex is still special to me becuase I'm a virgin. Sluts won't give me what I want, only a virgin woman will. So no, it's better to hold out and potentially die alone chasing the ideal ov a virgin-virgin marriage, than to accept that scraps and sloppy seconds are all that exist these days.

>>82502400
>put your happiness above principle and virtue
I will try to explain this to you even though you apparently are a completely debrained and useless fuck: TRUST, INTIMACY AND LOVE ARE NOT SEXTOYS. You do not go around desecrating the very fucking glue of this entire species just because you refuse to mature. Civilizations rely on the smallest molecule that comprises it which is the family unit. You can not have a functioning family if you do not love your spouse and see that person as the VERY PEAK of physical and emotional bonding and love. Your spouse is your soul tie, your second half, the only person that knows every inch of your body and mind. You do not have the prerequisite for such a relationship if several people have already gone to those depths with you, the passion diminishing with each person you fuck. You become a braindead chimp that takes gestures of thee highest level of human intimacy and turns it into a dopamine button or an ego bandage for a wounded little mind.

Failure to comprehend this simple fact should be grounds for castration and sterilization with a lifetime living space being a zoo enclosure. Thats where you belong you. You are a poison to society. You grew up on porn, vanity, quick pleasures and mindless consumerism. You are nothing but an empty void automating a homo sapiens body. The sum of your body and mind is less than a human being. You do not even have the mental characteristics of a human being.

>>82502480
Imagine saying that to a domestic abuse victim. Sweetie why are you acting like such a pussy? The world is a tough place but you have to be tougher sweetie, otherwise no man will want you.
You are an existential evil sent straight from hell.

>>82502409
>Why would later partners last when previous ones didn't?
Because life and relationships aren't math. The previous partner might have had issues. You two might have issues together. There could be a million reasons for it not work, none of them stop any future relationships from working.
One could die, or move far away, or cheat and find someone else, or fall out of love. Anything could happen leaving you single again.
Only a fool (incels) would think this means you can never have a working relationship ever again.

>>82502500
men are more often victims of domestic abuse, its just they dont report it and the police wont take it seriously. roasties are crybullies

>>82502500
You honestly think being a abuse victim is the same as a incel? Im not even that mean :3

>>82502496
Same I am rather alone. What is the point of being number 42 in a unloving relationship with a time limit. Real love is eternal and someone who hops from man to man can never ever love.

>>82502439
>Being a 30+ lonely virgin because you hate sluts sounds like the dumbest hill to die on
Dying in your 30s because you wished for the liberty of blacks that would kill you sounds like the dumbest hill to die on

You can trivialize anything if you wish to do so

>>82502456
You are a virgin, it's not like you ever tried to be with a woman and make it work.
I think that you're not speaking from personal experience and PTSD, I think you are speaking from your incel delusions, misconceptions and prejudices alone.
That's why you hide behind a graph. That's why you come to the incel echo chamber.
You simply have never tried, and how could you? You hate any women who isn't a virgin, meaning any woman older than 16.

>>82502532
>meaning any woman older than 16.
>any woman older than 16 is a slut
You're more misogynistic than him, at least

>>82502528
>Dying in your 30s
You're dodging the issue so hard. Who died in their 30s defending abolitionism?. Not every black is out to kill you, anon. And for the freed slave, dying on the hill of their freedom seems like a fair cause.
Living a life alone and miserable because you can't be with a non virgin woman is pretty dumb.

There's no point in discussing with those people. Just do what you want. If you want a virgin then go for it and ask, if she lied then break up
Being a man is not caring about what those tards think

>>82502538
Not a slut, just not a virgin anymore. You, however, equate any non virgin to a slut.
No wonder you are alone

>>82502552
>The people who tell you to get over your issues are tards
>Not the 30+ virgin waiting for a virgin dream girl
Incels have some twisted priorities.

>>82502516
I was an abuse victim, at home and at school.
It wasn't just mean words you cunthaver. I was beaten up, socially isolated, the teachers didn't care and punished me for defending myself. My social life died before I even had a chance to build it.
While I had to watch chad make connections with half-assed conversation, half-assed effort, never have to fight.

>>82502579
You should get therapy, hating sluts and being a lonely virgin are clearly maladaptive coping mechanisms for your unresolved PTSD

>>82502532
I'm not graph anon. I lived this. I tried and failed.
I don't care about virginity, but I don't think casual sluttery should be encouraged. "Female empowerment" is a poorly disguised effort towards male destruction, and you know it. Keep deluding yourself, roastie.

women embarrassed themselves once again. all these arguments instead of simply not being a whore for chad

>>82502499
>put your happiness above principle and virtue
That's what you should do specially when your "principles" and "virtues" are so rotted, so perverted, rooted in typical conservative sexual repression.

>>82502551
>Who died in their 30s defending abolitionism?
Many, like Elijah Lovejoy. Did you think it was peaceful? kek
>Living a life alone and miserable because you can't be with a non virgin woman is pretty dumb
Only yourself can decide what you value. I used slavery as an example because many people don't care about it, or even support it's come back. Just because you don't care about something doesn't mean someone else don't care either, and vice versa

I care about virginity, but I don't care about race, social standing, salary and many things. While someone else might not care about virginity but care about those others things

>>82502579
Wish you well but why resent group of people that have nothing to do with it like sluts women etc

>>82502517
It's honestly a joke to talk about love in the modern dating scene. They talk about soul mates and how cheating is bad. But you're supposed to be perfectly fine with the woman you love fucking other dudes, if you don't like it then you're just insecure or some shit. It's really not complex, I only want 1 person who is exclusive with me, forever. You're not exclusive if I'm in a queue and the queue is guys who had sex with you.

Atleast if I die a virgin I die with some idealism and dreams. Being a non-virgin with a non-virgin my life would just be "yep, this is all I could get". Zero romance there, zero self respect, absolute suicide fuel. It's not even complex, I just find sharing gross, and it's funny how women complain about need for abortion becuase pregnancy is so scary, yet they downplay sex and say it's not important even though it's what gets you pregnant. Women are more selective over who can use their toothbrush than who can use their body.

>>82502558
Thinking that all women above 16 aren't a virgin also is misogynistic, even if you don't consider them sluts. You're saying that women are monoliths

>>82501634 (OP)
I wouldn't go as far as saying there is absolutely no difference, but that's basically how I see it -- I don't care whether you have 1 or 5. It's the same to me. You are equally tainted

>>82502645
They are just saying things for the sake of it. No one actually believes everyone is a slut / has slept with people after 16

>>82502579
>I was an abuse victim, at home and at school
Are you retarded?
You can never say that to women. They pretend to be empathetic but are evil

>>82502621
They enabled it, actually some of the worst shit I've ever heard from the mouth of a human being came from a slut, genuine soul crushing shit. The only reason those dudes did what they did was to 1-up me to impress roasties.
That's what you don't seem to understand. In a room full of only dudes, there is peace, but the second you introduce an attentionwhore slut, we devolve into chimp politics to impress her.
Men on some instinctual level know that foids prefer "the leader", so it becomes war the second you're introduced, men who otherwise would have been good friends become enemies. You bred abuse chad into existence and you presume to blame men (me) for it, as if my droopy eyes and lack of a jawline makes me the mastermind behind all this. I don't blame you, you were thrust into this world same as me, but I will always remember this.

>>82502579
same bro. i feel for you. none of these stupid normies went through a fraction of what you did and yet they lecture you, it's comical.

i drive past rich people's homes and think, imagine growing up in one of those homes + having a loving family and being attractive with a girlfriend. they live in a different world.

dont let them gaslight you bro

>>82502516
fucking retard. most incels are abuse victims of some sort. child abuse is worse than domestic violence anyway, because when you're a child you're defenseless, and also easier to emotionally abuse, because the abuse is all you know.

plus being an incel is, in itself, a seriuos struggle. no one can be happy if they are denied love over a condition they're born with.

>>82502595
who the fuck are you, as a normie with an incredibly easy life, to tell him "you should..."?

>>82502699
midwit piece of shit

>>82502611
Its not sexual repression, its sexual INTIMACY. Meaning its confined to 1 person otherwise its no longer INTIMATE. For someone who can barely speak and comprehend half a language, you sure as hell like to speak.

>>82502611
>so perverted, so rotted
My principles are borderline chastity and grounded in purity, you are just projecting at this point.

>>82502718
never though of it that way. know wit means nothing to people with your kind of opinion but I have more empathy now. Do you think its 100% womens fault or do you think that there is fault in the behavior of men in that situation you described?

>>82502722
thats not nice to say. I wish everyone love but no one is owed love because you cant force that

>>82502797
>30 + virgin rejecting anyone that doesn't fit his dream girl archetype
It's sexual repression, dude. No wonder the repressed chud can't admit it

>>82502840
ok so? its still rough to not be able to be in a relationship. i didnt say it should be forced

>>82502853
what a gaslighting retard jfl

>>82502797
>It's only intimacy if it's one person for life
You learned that from your church?
Keep thinking like that, keep living the incel life. Simple

>>82502856
Im sorry dude but knowingly or not you subscribe to the same sexual ideology of ancient hebrews. Even worse actually, they practiced patriarchal polygamy at least.
It's like standard 101 sexual repression, I don't know how you can deny such basic reality

>>82502886

because i say that being an incel is rough?

>>82502856
im just saying if you want someone to understand your way of thinking its not nice to call them a retard.
yes I can see how it can be hard. what did you mean with: denied love over a condition? What is the condition

>>82502894
ok that was out of line ngl

the condition is being ugly. being an incel is a condition you're born with, because if you're ugly or short you won't get dates.

>>82502809
>My principles are borderline chastity and grounded in purity
Those are rotted principles, anon. Rooted in sexual repression. It's a perversion of nature.
It's no wonder those principles made you a 30+ virgin living a life of loneliness, frustration and bitter resentment

>>82502741
Not an incel freak coping with childhood trauma by being a lonely virgin living in social isolation

>>82502645
Most girls are no longer virgins by that age, and that's completely okay. You're the one making a moral stance on it, I'm only saying like it is.
>>82502669
Delusional if you think many girls wait that long. They're not retarded or sexually repressed, that's just you

>>82502907
oh thought you meant like a disability.
I know its annoying to hear all the time in your position but I hope you find something or someone that makes you happy and changes your opinion about your appearance.

>>82502456
>That motherfucker has never had to *try* a day in his life
True, but you're not him so you better get back on your feet and start trying
>formative trauma
You are in such a dire need for therapy, you are a deeply traumatized by what happened back in school and can't seem to get over it

>>82502931
as someone who grow up and knowing those things its not true. Yes there where some who started really young but not everyone was obsessed with it

>>82502489
>Sexual relationships aren't the only love you can experience
True but you're still missing out on it and being retarded about the whole purity thing. Your soul isn't pure at all.
You can pretend you're okay with being a virgin but do you know where you are?

>>82502920
Oh right, of course. What would we do without lessons from you.

Piece of shit. That's where you're fundamentally wrong. You think run of the mill people are superior to incels, because they fit in, and you think that if you are like them, then you can lecture incels.

You have no idea how much easier your life is than a "freak" who was born with evil parents and, growing up, was abused and, most importantly, had never experienced anything or knew anything besides the abuse. Having it easy doesn't qualify you from lecturing anyone, anymore than someone who got a job at his dad's company can lecture you about how to get a job.

>>82502934
Thank you (unironically)

>>82502953
You don't know a lot apparently. There's nothing "obsessed" about it, having sex is normal, specially for young people, and most girls have done it already by 16. Very few are still virgins by 18.
You're the one making a big deal out of this trivia

Cucks should go lick their wife's used pussy instead of trying to make young men to commit the same mistake as they did

>>82502988
they cant pair bond, they arent loyal and since they dont have lifelong partners they dont have kids. but the collapse of society and birth rates is worth it because "well normies are ok with it and anyways why worry".

>>82502988
it depends where you live but I think its not that deep. . .

>>82502969
>True but you're still missing out on it
So normalfags are a bunch of FOMO?

>>82502988
Thankfully the age of consent here is 14. Imagine living in a country where you're forced to be a cuck

>>82502840
It's nobody's fault. It's an unevolved brain being forced into an evolved environment.
Blaming men or women for this would be like blaming a tornado for razing your home.

>>82502981
>born with evil parents and, growing up, was abused and, most importantly, had never experienced anything or knew anything besides the abuse
I'm looking for the part where you turned all this resentment and anger towards non virgin women.
Because you could deal with all of these in many different ways, but you just had to choose the most moronic, self sabotaging way possible: become a sexually repressed puritanical edgelord who hate the only people who could become your lovers: slutty girls with low standards.

>>82502981
I get it, your life was hard. Your maladaptive coping mechanisms (whore hating incel life) are making your life even harder.

>>82502950
>True, but you're not him so you better get back on your feet and start trying
I already tried, as I said. I used to approach women, I got creeped out looks and rumors spread about me. I used to try to befriend people, they didn't like my face or voice or height or whatever.
You can't see a hunk of shit and force yourself to think it's a rose, and were the socially acceptable thing be to be unbiased on the form of a thing, you might make socially acceptable excuses for why you're repulsed by that hunk of shit.
>You are in such a dire need for therapy, you are a deeply traumatized by what happened back in school and can't seem to get over it
It's been happening every day since then, people don't magically grow up when they leave highschool or turn 21. The therapist would not give me solutions, only ways to cope with being born to die alone. Just like you can't force yourself to love a hunk of shit, it's also nearly impossible to force yourself to be ok with being that hunk of shit after seeing all those disgusted faces all your life. Hearing all that down talk and being blamed for things beyond your control.

Kill anyone(figuratively) that says for you to go to the therapist
t. Therapist

>>82503103
>>82503111

Do you not understand that women do not want to date me because I'm not attractive?

I would date a woman with a trillion body count, if she loved me, but not if I'm her second option.

Btw you seem to think having an easier life means you can lecture me. You are like someone getting a job at his father's company and lecturing people on how to get a job + shitting on NEETs.

>>82503252
elaborate pls

i went to therapy twice. first was not very good, but now i see, the therapist had a point in some things she said. (this one was free)

i tried later and it was a total meme. just an idiot pretending to be my friend for an hour and then i have to pay 60eur kek

i have therapy again soon, this time for free again, so if it's shit i won't feel like an idiot for paying. i hope it's somewhat good.

the free therapy is because i get it through the public healthcare system.

>>82503379
Therapy isn't bad if the professional isn't a charlatan, but people that say for you to go to therapy are 99% trying to deflect
Imagine if everytime someone mentions the slightest thing about money people say "You need to go to an accountant, not me"

Some people need professional help, but most just need to vent and connect

>>82503353
You're too rejecting whores to know that.
There could be a girl willing to date you out there and you probably rejected her because she's not your dream virgin gf

>>82503509
high IQ i agree

>>82501839
Body count absolutely defines you. You stupid fucking whore

>>82503353
>not if I'm her second option
You are always the second option unless you are Henry Cavill or a billionaire, idiot.
>I'll have it perfect or nothing
Incels... Why are they like this? Such narcissism, such inflated ego

>>82501634 (OP)
Prostitutes will scam you and women will betray you. It's best to treat sex as reproduction only and not get swept up into it

>>82503010
Low birth rates is due to inflation making the living cost a travesty and raising a baby is a step into extreme poverty for most people.
Whores can pair bond much more than you, the loner without any romantic experience

>>82503035
You're not happy living the celibate life, that's why you should change. nothing else.

>>82504173
>happiness
>happiness
>happiness
All the most miserable people that I know are sex havers. My friend is celibate and pretty happy, the other married a virgin that he knew since highschool

Demorelizers are tards

>>82504161
Oh, here's the white knight that blame everything but women
>it's the economy
>it's capitalism
>it's religion
>it's sexism
>it's men

>>82504161
theres literally a strong reverse correlation between how rich a country is and how many kids people have. you can live a comfy life on benefits with 3 kids in some european countries yet women refuse to breed there. they have maternity leave everything. they dont care. but in dirt poor africa (or in dirt poor europe in the past) 6-8 kids are common. so no its not muh money. but i get it that roasties and normies can only think about material gains

>if you don't want your wife smeared by another's man's cum you're insecure
Then I'm insecure, wtf? What do I gain by being secure? The approval of fags and sluts?

>>82504298
>The approval of fags and sluts?
Yes, unironically. They don't want to be seen as someone that fears being compared or something like that
To be fair, almost all human actions are based on that, to not look bad. Be it intentional or not

>>82501640
Correctomundo

>>82501839
>he actually loves and respects me and thinks I'm special, that's why he treats me like every other woman
kek

>>82502216
I always thought this might be a problem I'd have, eventually you start to assess why you even bothered in the first place once the novelty of other things wears off.

>>82501739
The strongest bonds are formed on memories made together, especially if those memories involve something you've both done for the first time. It goes both ways and is not just a female only sort of thing

>>82501634 (OP)
this is why if i lose my virginity to the wrong person ill just kill myself whatever

>>82502138
any triple digit IQ guy understands that if the number is so low it means they are in successful relationships DESPITE being promiscuous whores and not because of it

>>82502326
this is a fallacy
yes humanity did these stupid things but NEVER on the same timescale as practicing chastity and monogamy

if something becomes stupid becomes popular it will always die out in 2 3 generations maximum

>>82501634 (OP)
i plan to stay a virgin till marriage but what if sex is horrible? i cant divorce and living without sex sounds bad.

>>82505115
just cheat like how people did for hundreds of years before divorce became normalized

>>82505133
no that sounds horrible, plus BC sounds horrible. i dont want kids from a rando

>>82505115
Just tell your husband, humans have mouths to speak. If he cares he'll ask and learn how to pleasure you. If he doesn't care then it was your skill issue for marring such dude

>>82505115
buy a dildo that is modeled after your future husband
test it

>>82505150
you are just looking for excuses to fuck chad before marriage lol

>>82501634 (OP)
Virgin foids are just whores that havent embraced their true nature
You fuck your wife
Then she cheats on you with some Chad
Her roastie brain makes her hate you as you arent Chad so she divorces you to sample Chad dick
But at least she was le virgin when you fucked her right?

>>82505205
oh yea that, ive heard of those. reminds me that everytime i use the one i have i pee. shit im going to die alone, i doubt any guy wants sm who pees everytime theyre close im gonna look retarded.
>>82505200
yea your right, idk im thinking too far into the future rn anyways.

>>82505268
just tell them its squirting and they will find it hot

>>82505308
i doubt men are that stupid. im porn brained, i want a guy to brain wash me into being trad and stuff. vacbed? whats thats honey?

>>82505115
>hurr durr you can't get better at sex
I swear most of you are clinically retarded

>>82505322
yes normies are that stupid kek. they are all porn brained. robots and incels know better but they are perverted enough to like it

>>82501739
I'm only giving myself one chance and if it fails I won't bother after. Not like I'll use that first chance anyways, but still. Same deal with age, once I hit 50 I will actively refuse every girl on the planet, regardless of the fact that I'd never have to do it.

fembots defend abortions and whoring around on a daily basis and they have threads about being literal prostitutes. and these are the shy socially awkward ones... great

>>82505600
>I'm only giving myself one chance and if it fails I won't bother after.
Why are autistic incels like that? That's no way to live. Only trying one time? Nah bro.

>>82506770
>Only trying one time?
You know you can date and know someone without having sex first, right?

>>82501634 (OP)
As a older male virgin (21) I'll just have to live with it. I don't want to die alone and untouched

>>82506842
Dude, stop. Your "one attempt only" policy is just lifetime celibacy spelled backwards. You're coping and that's okay

>>82505612
It's their fault you can't get laid

>>82501641
that's one of the fuckin problems with porn. After 2 videos it's just differently sized tits and ass. And cock, but that's less relevant since it spends most of it's time in the woman's pussy, ass, or mouth. Or between her tits.

>>82501952
Areny? Areny the Dinosaur, or its it Areny the Retardsaur for you?

I honestly didn't hate women before I saw them argue on this board. You bitches spend more time trying to shame the people you're arguing against instead of making sense.