Thread 82843993

im a volcel femanon but i was wondering if asexual men exist . most men expect sex which is why ive never been interested in dating. my sex drive is non existent

>>82843993 (OP)
>dating
>>82843993 (OP)
>asexual

>>82843993 (OP)
Women have no value outside of sex, therefore asexual men have zero interest in women.

>>82844012
what is this supposed to mean lol >>82844022
this is coming from a virgin btw

>>82843993 (OP)
As I was told by self proclaimed females here, there is no point in a relationship if you are not going to have sex.

>>82843993 (OP)
yes. its just not viable to talk about it ever because everyone dogpiles you and says you gay or an incel.

>>82843993 (OP)
I am almost fully asexual when I am not horny (so like 95% of the time). Don't know how that works desu

>>82843993 (OP)
I only want to have sex once i have feelings for the foid in question. Before that i don't even perceive them as sexual anything

>>82844039
>>82844040
yeah sexhavers are such a turn off honestly. people fucking up their lives over pussy its such an ick to me but the virgin incels on here think the opposite lol >>82844037
fucking should only be for making children. using condoms and injecting yourself with birth hormones and sticking a copper coil up ur vagina isnt natural

>>82843993 (OP)
You might find a guy who deludes himself into thinking he's asexual or just fine with cuddling, but I'm sure eventually you would walk in on him jerking off or look at his phone and see how frequently he watches porn. I know masturbation doesn't necessarily mean you're not asexual, but if you jerk off almost daily, you're probably not asexual, and a lot of guys do it at that frequency.

Really, if you're asexual, why do you even want to be in a relationship? an't you just enjoy your female relationships? What's the point of trying to find a guy (not just a guy, but one you're attracted to enough to have romantic feelings over) if you're not having sex? Do you actually want to *do* romane, like doing stuff for him, or do you only want to receive romance? Either way, I think the vast majority of guys do not care about getting trinkets on their birthday, or if you make dinner sometimes, if you're not also sleeping with them. Anything romantic you can think of that isn't happening alongside a physical relationship is something that can be done outside the confines of a romantic relationship.

>>82844028
he just spams this pattern in every thread

>>82843993 (OP)
Why date if you arent going to fuck.
Also if you cant get guys as friends, probably cause your hobbies dont align. I have female friends but they either have same interests as me or accept dark humor. We dont talk often though. Most chicks assume i might be autistic cause im nice so guys avoid this behavior you are seeking due to being worried of being social outcasts or even more of a outcast. Also the fact you are specifically seeking guys is very sexual in itself, why not girls if you dont care about sex? just get friends...

>>82844144
valid point but im not seeking i wonder if theres asexual guys out there. asexual due to being depressed etc. ive had guy friends in the past and they all had a crush on me at one point and tried making sexual approaches. personally id wait for marriage but im not really horny or get aroused easily. >>82844113
so you need to fuck in order to be dating? lol

>>82844113
nta and male. it is rather hard to find romance outside the confines of a romantic relationship. you end up the gay best friend pet to women and other guys do not want to appear gay. i think itd be comfy to have platonic-romance and grow old with someone without most of the physical stuff besides cuddling

>>82843993 (OP)
Yes I am the most asexual man I know.

I told the last woman that flirted with me, that we would need to go without sex for at least 1 year, to see if we are actually compatible.
She declined, saying sex is important to her.

>>82844200
i think you dodged a bullet. i personally wouldnt date someone with a high body count. i see it as self respect too. if everyone had to fuck everyone they dated then that would just create a whore society. i prefer classic romance where its one partner and i just view having sex as making babies

>>82844186
>i wonder if theres asexual guys out there
Yes they exist, but because theyre effectively neutered they will not look or care for your existance. They either already have friends or are asocial. What you are asking for is basically finding a invisible man when man that already try to put themselves out there get filtered.
tldr they exist just they wouldnt bother to get to know u.

>>82844224
im asocial and depressed myself. again im not seeking for one i just wonder if they exist

>>82844235
They exist. Hope that helps.

>>82844212
Agreed.
I don't think someone with a high body count is a bad person. But I also would never date someone like that, To me it would feel like a humiliation.

I think having sex also has something to do with bonding, closeness and intimacy, normally.

I don't think about sex much, but now thinking about it, I guess you are right: the most rational approach is only having sex to create offspring.

>>82844325
most people have turned sex into a casual pleasure thing which i hate. theres plenty of ways to bond with eachother which doesnt involve sex. i dont want to sound like im anti sex being intimate can be affectionate dont get me wrong but people have turned it into more of a hobby than a soul binding thing.

>>82844186
>so you need to fuck in order to be dating? lol
Dating is almost exclusively about meeting up in order to fuck. It's the phase where women actually acquiesce to male desires in order to get something out of them later. It's why so many relationships suffer as soon as the couple moves in together. Men think the dating phase, where the woman is receptive to sexual advances, should last forever, while the woman only puts out to continue the "romance" (i.e getting gifts, paid dates, and other things the guy only does because she's putting out). arrangements like waiting for marriage are extremely rare and most guys are wise enough to know they're doomed to a passionless relationship if they go through with it. But obviously, they're always desperate idiots willing to bend over backward for a woman. So if you keep searching, I'm sure you'll find a guy willing to wait until marriage. Just not one that will stay happy for long after that, when he realizes it was never a matter of purity or the sacredness of your body, but instead because you're frigid and wasting his life

>>82843993 (OP)
I'm not asexual but so degen (footfag) I have immense issues being intimate with women. I've craved a gf and a connection, but anytime I form a bond, I feel too insecure, inappropriate, dysfunctional and repulsive that I self-sabotage in order to not put the girl into a position of being having to cope with being with someone so vile.
It's been such a fucking burden on me. I've had girls i deemed close friends, but the fact I hesitated to sleep with them left them puzzled and disinterested.
Most people think of dating as a means to fucking, I hate it too.

>>82843993 (OP)
Yes. Either because of trauma, low T levels, or medication/drugs that killed their sex drive

>>82843993 (OP)
yes
and that's all that there is to say
*drops the mic and leaves the room

if you cant have sex with your partner once and a while to simply make them feel good then you're a shitty partner and deserve to be alone. it really isn't that big of an imposition.

>>82844370
Sure, there are a lot of other ways to bond than sex.

I think it isn't a soul binding thing for everyone, or that soul bond seems to be very weak for most people, or else how are they able to cheat and switch partners often.

I share your sentiment about casual sex feeling wrong. I'd add it gives me an empty and meaningless impression.

>>82844431
youre so brainwashed this is why romance is dead lmfao. just say you want to experience multiple people before being comitted to marriage. elderly people stay faithful to their partners even after death , are you saying their marriages were miserable because they held conservative values? i dont get this arguement the same people who want sex so bad then complain about women whoring themselves and having high body counts

>>82844462
why should they have sex? what is it for? is it just a matter of emotion or is there an actual reason to

>>82844370
>theres plenty of ways to bond with eachother which doesnt involve sex
Name the ways you can bond with a romantic partner that you can't do with a friend. Outside of cuddling and kissing, I can't think of anything you can do with a partner that isn't something you can do with friends.

>>82844507
>Name the ways you can bond with a romantic
bonding doesnt have to be physical its emotional. you're not going to feel the same emotions if a friend gave you a flower vs if your partner gave you a flower. i'll use your arguement, why dont people fuck their friends instead of having partners? you'll feel the same amount of phsyical pleasure.

you kinda need a kid for that. post not related.

>>82844496
Because we as human mammals strengthen our bonds in such a way. Because you as a partner should want to make your significant other happy and feel closer to you. It's ten minutes of your day once a week. A small imposition to make a relationship go from you looking for a father replacement that gains few benefits from being with you to it being an actual relationship.

>>82844496
This line of thinking means there's no point to the entire relationship. Why cook dinner? Why give gifts on anniversaries? Why pick up their prescription from the pharmacy? It's all just a matter of emotion if we're never entitled to one another's time and energy.

>>82843993 (OP)
Literally just google "asexual dating app"

>>82844541
do you want children? if youre willing to accept the risk of pregnancy sure go ahead. the human nature of sex is to reproduce . if you need to rely on fucking for happiness are you even inlove? thats why they end up leaving and want to explore other people they get bored eventually.

>>82843993 (OP)
Why the fuck are so many femanons asexual

>>82844559
why are people assuming this is a boyfriend application LOL >>82844564 ive never met anyone whos asexual irl

>>82844542
youre comparing emotional intimacy with physical intimacy. would you be with someone who has a body count of 3+

>>82844535
>why dont people fuck their friends instead of having partners
They do that. That's very common. Having fuck buddies or sex friends is not at all unusual. You're just taking a normal platonic affection and labeling it as "romantic" when it suits your framing. People do date stuff with friends all the time, like going out to eat and going to the movies. You're not giving a reason why it's different aside from, "It just is, okay!"

>>82844563
Have you ever had sex with someone you actually loved? I could give a shit less about having sex for the sake of it but having sex with the person you love is quite literally one of the best things in this world. It's not the most important thing in a relationship by far but it is a deal breaker for me.
>do you want children
More than anything else.

>>82844612
yep so esentially sex has become normalised because of hookup culture which is disgusting. this is why people are becoming less committed and cheat more . compare the happiness of relationships from 100 years ago to now . this is why sex work and only fans is becoming mainstream work

>>82844628
>Have you ever had sex with someone you actually loved?
no im a volcel lmao. if its guaranteed that the partner will stay with you ie marriage then im not against it. fucking someone you start dating then breaking up after 3 months and repeating the same cycle is gross to me. ive never loved anyone but i refuse to believe people can fall inlove with numerous people. love is sacred and should be reserved for a special someone, not some chic you found in a club

>>82844650
>fucking someone you start dating then breaking up after 3 months and repeating the same cycle is gross to me
That is only natural. I have only had sex with a woman that I married so I cannot speak on that stuff. If a woman was serious about not having sex until marriage I think that's completely fine. I wouldn't even call that being volcel, I would call that being a normal human not influenced by the warped sexual relations of modernity.

>>82844687
thing is thats not normal anymore in todays society lmao. men who are preserving their virginity until marriage tend to also be religious which im not. if it starts with dating and leads to marriage im fine with that. i just find it absurd how people find dating as a pass to start having sex like that can happen with anyone. people are becoming less committed and want to experience other people which is why ive never dated. theyre all the same

i'm low libido/KHHV. i've only pursued a few i found interesting after talking for a bit. they've ghosted me eventually. i'm selective but not even handsome to be picky LOL. anyway, if i was high libido, i'd be desperate and go for everything that moves.

>>82843993 (OP)
I'm functionally asexual because I'm not attracted to humans. I'm not attracted to animals either but rather to dragons with human level intelligence. Think Zootopia levels of intelligence. I just don't find the human form attractive, you know, hands, boobs, walking on two legs, etc. I'm not even into anthro furry shit.

I've made it to 35 now and I'm still a virgin not because I haven't had the opportunity but because I've turned down every offer. The idea of having sex with a human disgusts me. I have friends but there's a big difference between a buddy you go out to eat with or shop with or do whatever retarded hobby with and someone you love who shares their life with you. I'd love to have a wife. I just can't stomach the thought of having sex with her. The few women I've told that I'm asexual have run away. Despite the socially accepted idea that men are the horny ones and women only offer sex to get something out of men but don't actually enjoy sex themselves, that's not true.

>>82844725
>not even handsome to be picky
hey dont say that. its okay to have standards they shouldnt be defined by your attractivness

>>82844712
>thing is thats not normal anymore in todays society lmao
That's because modernity reflects the ideals of a bunch of "thinkers" who have worked very hard to undermine the nuclear family and sexual relations.
>men who are preserving their virginity until marriage tend to also be religious which im not
Consider it a great filter, probably one of the best ones you can have. I don't think it's inherently religious but it definitely is most common with people who are religious. I myself am agnostic thougheverbeit.
>people are becoming less committed and want to experience other people which is why ive never dated
Once again, completely fine to not be a part of it. It's one of the reasons why I don't bother to date.

>>82844725
wait until you're 35, a single mom of a similar age will suddenly be interested

>>82843993 (OP)
Are you open to sex for the purpose of procreation? I'm not a sex enjoyer, but I want a family. It is non negotiable.

>>82844748
>they shouldnt be defined by your attractivness
i guess, I just need to be less picky about things in general. i've missed potential opportunities

>>82844772
i dont even want children. i dont really see any point in sex if its not for procreating. interfering with nature such as insemination just to end up having single mothers and aborted children its very dystopian to me

>>82844763
>wait until you're 35, a single mom of a similar age will suddenly be interested
i've decided if i make it that far, i'll pursue younger girls (20+). I don't see a point in settling with a 35 yo. I don't care about having kids. i'd rather sugar daddy or whatever for a younger woman lmao. ideally, I want to grow old with a gf now

>>82844805
im op whos 18 btw but i just want to ask why do you want to get with someone younger and not someone your age? i never understand the intent apart from younger girls being "purer"

>>82844804
>i dont even want children.
fair enough, best of luck in your search.
>i dont really see any point in sex if its not for procreating
Agree, mostly. I like to please, but it's not pleasing to me. The consequences can be easily avoided with a level head.. but nobody is thinking with a level head when aroused.

>>82844826
>i never understand the intent apart from younger girls being "purer"
I want a partner that is either khhv/low partner count (1-3 max were long term partners) since I am myself. It's unlikely a non-religious girl today will be KHHV/low partner count at 35. I'm just making my search harder for no reason. I'd be okay if she is at least 20 if I am 35. I'm 23 now btw so that's a long time from now. so "pureness" lmao, but I am "pure" myself

>>82844918
>It's unlikely a non-religious girl today will be KHHV/low partner count at 35
I'm 31 and the likelihood a woman my age not being ran through is minuscule. I likewise have no interest in dating someone a decade younger than me so it's well and truly over.

>>82844918
oh i see. id just want a long term partner i could grow old and die with. we'd have the same maturity level and get wrinkled together. >>82844955
ive seen plenty of virgin women in their 30s

>>82844972
>ive seen plenty of virgin women in their 30s
Where are you seeing them. I am not seeing them where I live. Then again I am a schizoid that doesn't do a lot of social activities.

>>82844978
on 4chan , tinder, churches etc. with hookupculture being the new norm those pure young girls have triple the body count of a said 32 year old "roastie". im 18 myself ive had friends talk about having threesomes at 15 years old sending countless nudes etc theyre not as innocent as you perceive them

>>82844955
>dating someone a decade younger than me so it's well and truly over.
why not? if she is going to be ran through, i'd prefer her to be younger and in her peak physically. at that point, I'd just give in.
>>82844972
>id just want a long term partner i could grow old and die with.
there are mature younger girls. you come off as mature. also see above

>>82845004
>4chan
I've talked to a few women from here and all were mentally ill and had body counts in double digits.
>tinder
The kind of person I would date would never use such a thing.
>churches
Young women don't go to church these days. It's mostly old people and children.
>threesomes at 15 years old sending countless nudes etc theyre not as innocent as you perceive them
Statistics say that gen z has less sex. In general normies are just whores regardless of generation though.

>>82845027
> statistics say
lmaoo look at the stats for teen pregnancy its quite the opposite. i dont care if you want a young wife but the intent is very obvious you infantise them and view them as pure and tighter, more sexual appeal all 4chan men are the same

>>82843993 (OP)
Same, my libido doesn't exist. I never got pleasure from touching myself down there. And i'm pretty sure I have vaginismus.

>>82845004
>at 15 years old sending countless nudes etc theyre not as innocent as you perceive them
I've met a few virgin 18-22 yo girls online. These girls have never been asked out by guys irl. But, yeah, I've also met crazy girls like you describe online.

>>82845042
>i dont care if you want a young wife but the intent is very obvious you infantise them
You do know my original post was me saying the opposite of this right? I have no interest in dating someone more than 5 years younger than me.

>>82845045
and how many men have they also met? dont tell me youre falling for e girl larp. sure they havent dated but how long do you think theyll stay a virgin for >>82845056
im aware im on about people who want young girls because of their stupid narrative

>>82843993 (OP)
>be me, male
>have GF
>have great relationship, communicate, love each other, care for each other, spend time with each other
>only one problem
>my GF REAAAALLY likes foot massages...
>...and I'm not a footfag
>I just don't get anything out of it, it does nothing for me
>and my GF wants footmassages basically every day
>its sometimes tiring or my hands hurt if it goes on for too long
>but I love my GF, I love seeing her happy, love watching her face melt when I give her foot massages
>so I still do it despite not really being a fan
>and when I'm tired or have a headache or my hands hurt after a long day of work i sometimes say "no", thats okay, my GF understands and loves me too
>she doesn't want to subject me to something I really don't want either
>our relationship is fine
>but recently I've been listening to a podcast
>how my GF is just using me for free foot massages
>so I stop
>whenever she asks for foot massages I always deflect, tell her my head hurts, I'm not in the mood, its too late and I'm tired
>its been a few month, she seems a little off
>It hurts seeing the light in her eyes dim at my rejection, but the podcast told me to prioritize myself
>her asking has gotten more infrequent maybe she finally gets it
>no, she asked if I could give her a foot massage like "the good old times" again and I snapped, asked her if she's only with me for foot massages and doesn't actually care about me
>she cried a little, but I think she finally got it this time
>...
>wtf? why did my GF break up? just because she didn't get foot massages? What a bitch, this is proof, she only wanted foot massages all along, I knew it all women are the same.

do fembots really?

>>82844028
im not that anon, but a core part of dating and love is sexual contact

>>82845063
>dont tell me youre falling for e girl larp.
larp or not, they have been less than the amount of crazy/ran through girls. imagine when they reach 35, I'm supposed to just accept it? lmao nah. i'll go for the younger ones since I'm not ran through myself. i want to find someone now though.

>>82843993 (OP)
I jerk off to nothing and wouldn't care about not having sex because I don't get it anyways, regardless this is entirely irrelevant as 'asexual' people don't exist beyond a very small group of the mentally ill. This also isn't going to go anywhere and you're just baiting lonely people so they feel even worse.

>>82843993 (OP)
>do asexual men exsist
Yes, and no.
I'm sorta an asexual man, but i don't think of myself as it.
I basically just think of myself as hetero. But I might fit with grey-sexual (very very little attraction/arousal) or ficto-sexual (fictional attraction).

But look, I hate to say, an asexual person might have problems. A female probably has more problems (no offense).
For instance, how old are you, and how many guys have you dated and/or had sex with?
If you are younger then 25 or 22, then you have barely started your journey of being sexual i would argue.
There's been "asexual" girls who end up pregnant when they are 33+.
>>82845043
>I'm too tight
I think that might be different.
Like a person born with no eyelids saying they have trouble with sleep.
Of course you do.

But also, I think part of it is state of mind. Some people train to ignore and not feel pain, and can handle walking on coals or nails. I think it can be kinda like that. Just need a state of mind.
And I could prove it, if you saw a specialist with me.