Thread 82965350

Lefties are deeply mentally ill.

Innocent people are tortured, raped, stolen from, brutally murdered by narcoterrorists?
>I sleep
Violent narcocriminals are killed en masse after starting a gunfight with police, sparing hundreds or thousands of innocent people from being killed in the future?
>NOOOOOOOOOO THINK OF THE POOR GANG MEMBERINOS VIOLENTERINO MURDERINOS THEY WERE JUST VICTIMS OF SOCIETY AND SOCIOECONOMIC FACTORINOS!

Is this the whole selective/suicidal empathy I've been hearing so much about lately?

>>82965350 (OP)
It's been proven government and private investment in poverty areas reduces poverty and lowers crime. This could be bullshit.

>>82965350 (OP)
Brazil is leftwing right now though

Always trust the police
Always trust the government
Always trust community notes
Always trust Grok
Please tread on me more

>>82965479
>narcoterrorists treading on the people
:)
>police treading on narcoterrorists
:(

It's part of satanic inversion. What's good is bad and what's bad is good. Always remember that.

>>82965350 (OP)
Unrelated, but the number of dead criminals is now counted at 117, and the number of arrests is at 113. 230 narcos off the streets; you love to see it!

seriously though isnt brazil's government leftwing? How is this a leftwing bad thing?

yeah the police should be allowed to murder whoever they want when it's convenient, law enforcement is above the law

i mean you could understand if "leftists" in latin america are a little touchy about state/police violence when most latam countries have a history of CIA-backed military dictatorships abducting people off the streets and summarily executing them

>>82965768
Brazil is a federation of states
I think this raid was organized by state gov (right wing), not the federal gov

>>82965350 (OP)
I hate these faggots so much. The only reason they defend crime is because brown people. Brown people are the priority, and crime and dysfunction are inherent to black and brown cultures.

They'll whince and cry about (brown) rapists and (brown) murderers getting a merciful execution and jump with joy when a innocent man is brutally assassinated in front of his family. Dear god, you do not hate these subhumans enough.

>>82965791
yeah the police should respond to gunfire with water guns

>>82965768
probably just trying to create a false narrative to distract from the fact that these drug gangs are being funded by foreign governments or some shit
i dont really see the point of idpol agitation over some police raid if its not intending to obscure something far more important, who gives a fuck about brazilians

>>82965444
You can't have government or private investments in favelas because the criminals control the territory and any merchant, business or service has to either pay the criminals or is provided by the criminals themselves. Wherever Comando Vermelho controls you can only use CVNET as your internet provider and has to deal with shitty service and can't even complain or they take over your house, expel you from the favela and rent it out to someone else.
>>82965451
Rio's governor is considered part of the right wing (he isn't) but he is the one who made this operation possible using state police. The federal government, which is left wing, is condemning what happened and saying it was a bad thing.
>>82965479
It is correct though.
>>82965804
Left wing parties all over the world are the same though. They all seem to care more about the criminals than about the victims and the politicians and judges helping the criminals quite often don't have to live with the consequences of letting criminals free.

>>82965451
>>82965768
The federal government of Brazil condemned the raid and said the governor did not tell the Feds that it was going to happen (probably because he knew the leftist federal government would defend the cartel and try to stop it from happening)

>>82965830
Of course they'll ignore that the majority of people being tormented by these gangs are the same skin color as them. They don't care about black on black or brown or brown crime at all until the criminals start getting punished.

>government murders people without trial
>they're criminals, trust us! Proof, what's that?
Why do rightoids simp for every thug with a badge?

>>82965444
Killing them is also effective and has 0% chance of recidivism. Bullets are cheaper than investing.

>>82966912
All rightoids secretly want to get daddy dommed because they have latent homosexual feelings for their own fathers

>>82965350 (OP)
Not reading all that. Didn't you elect a criminal?

>>82965350 (OP)
reminder that the real criminals are those who want to outlaw sodomy

>>82965444
The only cure is sending criminals to prison and importing people who aren't criminals i.e. gentrification. That is reality, not cherry picked far left studies.

>>82965768
>>82965843
Why do dumb faggots shit up every thread when they have zero understanding of the political situation in a foreign country?

>>82966912
>>82967127
are you sodomites suggesting that the drug dealers armed with assault rifles are sweet blameless innocents?

>>82967236
No. Violence must be used with caution though. It doesn't solve anything long term. It's just a show of political power and demagoguery. People love dead criminals. But every act of violence reverberates into more violence.

>>82967255
you could say the same thing about employing foids or legalising sodomy

>>82967236
>drug dealers armed with assault rifles are sweet blameless innocents?
Tell us what you think about Waco next

>>82967268
oh did you complain about waco too?

>>82967279
Yes. All use of force must be met with suspicion. We have courts for a reason.

>>82967268
Child abusing pedophile with a cuck fetish burned dozens of children alive over a bullshit self-centered prophesy. Koresh was a subhuman and frankly the ATF was in the right at Waco.

>>82967285
oh did you complain about the use of force against bin laden and the muslim brotherhood and the cossacks and the nazis during the sack of berlin?

>>82966912
People on welfare and illegals don't deserve due process. They have contributed nothing and are a net drain on taxpayers. Court costs money, and if they are released they'll just keep buying food, living in houses, and getting healthcare. If they go to jail they keep buying food and living in cells and getting healthcare. All paid for by good people. It's a lose-lose scenario. America sent 72.3 million dollars in aid to Brazil in 2023. That means all Brazilians are either criminals, on American welfare, or both. That's $72.3 million too much. I'll start giving a shit about their criminals after they've paid all the money they took from Americans back.

>>82967338
>war
As long as the war was lawfully declared and the use of force was within the guidelines given by whichever governing body was in charge of that I did not complain, though at least with the sack of Berlin I know there were rampant human rights abuses which I have and will continue to complain about
>>82967331
Would have been nice if a court decided that and punished him lawfully

>>82967369
>As long as the war was lawfully declared and the use of force was within the guidelines given by whichever governing body was in charge of that I did not complain
then that is a legalist definition of criminality-violence isn't criminal or objectionable as long as it is legal

>>82967385
>violence isn't criminal or objectionable as long as it is legal
War is different from police actions. Citizens have a right to due process. Enemy combatants in war do not.

>>82967398
>Citizens have a right to due process because that is the law
as i said, a legalist position rather than a moral one

>>82967406
Morality isn't real, I don't care about it.

>>82966912
>>82967408
these are the same person btw

>>82967414
I only see one (You) there and it's the second backlink. My other post was
>>82967127

>>82967127
>>82967408
i wouldn't call anyone a "rightoid" when you don't believe in morality

>Leftists love crime!
>Rightoids vote a convicted felon and child rapist into Presidency

what did the right mean by this?

>>82967465
What does morality have to do with the political spectrum?

Why did MIGA shut down the government to prevent the Epstein files from being released?
What are they hiding in there?

>>82966912
Trials are for rich countries. Poor shitholes don't have the resources to slowly arrest, try and then rehabilitate all their scum. Shooting people on the spot is the most utilitarian method.

>>82967472
let me guess, you only have a legal objection to those things because you don't believe in morality?
>>82967477
it's like talking to a preying mantis

>>82967496
>it's like talking to a preying mantis
This is not conducive to debate.

>>82967509
there are two puposes to debate-to come to an agreement based on shared values and to demonstrate a lack of shared values. i'm doing the latter because i assume most people believe in morality. i'm sure the preying mantis contingent disagrees with me though

>>82967526
The debate wasn't over morality, it was over whether governments should use extrajudicial force against their citizenry.

I'm not going to read any of this discussion but I will just say this. Leftism is only possible in decadence and echochambers. You cannot adopt the leftist point of view on most things, or even (in the case of most people but not necesarilly) attatch the label of "left wing" to yourself without being at a total disconnect from the primordial.

It's centered around the most external concerns, and for those issues most near and intimate, they either aren't cognizant of it in their decadence or they literally accept an evil point of view on it. Ascribing "left leaning" or "left wing" to themselves is often a declaration of allegience to a political faction, and that's divided from truth in nature.

>>82967609
>is it legal for governments to use illegal force?
riveting stuff, i wonder what the answer to this conundrum is

>>82967264
Leftists use the slippery slope but don't like it when it's used against them.

I'm brazilian, been on r9k for 11 years, here's a quick rundown of the public perception

>polls indicate 80% of the people supported the raid
>Rio has two major criminal organizations, the "CV" and the "Militia", the raid was conducted against the CV
>the radical left (ie mainstream media, govt sponsored artists and social sciences academics) are trying to twist this whole thing into a narrative of the current Rio governor trying to help the Militia
>anyone slightly to the right of center left got a massive popularity boost
>trying to gather sympathy, the remaining cartel members put all corpses on a single street on their underwear, but leaked footage shows they were removing the camo gear they make the cartel soldiers wear when in a firefight against the police
>anyone who is complaining about the raid completed ignored the last decade of CVs crimes, which include drug trafficking, racketeering, kidnappings, murders over trivial shit like wearing a different clothing brand or color than the allowed in CVs territories, and many others
>in Rio, over 75% of all murder cases are cartel related, it's rumored to be a similar percentage nationwide

Conclusion: leftoids are demons, they do not engage in good faith, they would have you killed if they could and they support terrorists worldwide.

Do not engage or respond to bait, they're simply evil, rotten to the core.

>>82967694
Pilled woesposting.

>>82967255
>No. Arrests must be used with caution though. It doesn't solve anything long term. It's just a show of political power and demagoguery. People love jailed criminals. But every arrest reverberates into more arrests.
>No. Policing must be used with caution though. It doesn't solve anything long term. It's just a show of political power and demagoguery. People love policed criminals. But every act of policing reverberates into more policing.
All policing, arrests, and killing, as well as any use of force by an entity (individual, organization, or government) against another hostile entity (individual, organization, or government) for the welfare of the constituents of that entity are neutral and equivalent acts of force (violence) against an entity. The status of one as "good" or "acceptable" is only given to it because it is approved of by a particular individual. There is no natural physical law that dictates killing a criminal in self-defense will cause a new one to appear as if by raw magic. If you could only point to this unseen mechanism, your argument could work.

As it is, there is already a lot of state violence sanctioned by you. When a man kills a woman for entertainment, you sanction the violence used to arrest him. The status of this violence as good or tolerable is solely because you accept it. How does this state violence not reverberate into more state violence? Is it because it is not extrajudicial? An arrest already typically occurs outside of a judicial ruling, it is is usually only after this extrajudicial display of force is exacted that the suspect is provided a hearing at the courts. How does this extrajudicial force not reverberate into more violence? Is it because killing is not sanctioned by the courts? It is because there is no physical law of nature that indicates "violence must reverberate into more violence." Quit the inane aphoristic babbling.

>>82967744
Tl;Dr nice try migger kike

>>82967255
>>82967744
And further, if the concern is that a court has ruled
>arresting a person in the event that...
is permitted, there is no reason besides your simple subjectif opinion that it cannot also say
>killing a person in the event that...
which it quite literally does, when those criminals return fire, attack, or are clear and present threats. There is nothing as well to say the courts cannot expand these permissions. But then you say
>it will reverberate...
and demonstrate the slippery slope. Why have the sanctioned arrests (force, violence) not reverberated into more arrests (force, violence)? Why has sanctioned violence (self-defense killings) reverberated into more violence (self-defense killings)?

Leftists can only parrot the nonsense they hear on reddit top comments.
>>82967780
Nice argument tranny kike.

>>82967694
In your humble opinion, do you think the raid was successful, could have been better, or won't change a thing?

>>82967820
NTA but my neighborhood was invaded by Trump's ICE. Literally around 12 houses were emptied out into a fleet of vans and squadcaes. The crime completely collapsed where I am and it's now one of the safest parts of the city. The remaining people here now let their kids play outside and there hasn't been a single shooting or fight since the month after Trump's election. I'd vouch for these raids.

>>82967820
Nta but I would think the result depends on how lulas government handles this, given the condemnation if they show anything further that could be seen as support to the cartel I would assume nothing changes as the cartel resumes their activities reassured of their security going forward. If lulas government does not step in beyond words they likely won't feel secure enough to continue in the same area for a time, could be temporary relief to criminal activity in the region, could be long term given the number of bodies. No way to know in the immediate

>>82965749
that's right. all cocaine sales must go through the cia only

>>82967855
The narcos are the CIA assets.

>>82966912
Funny thing you don't hold criminals to the same standards when they assault, torture and kill people.
Where is you due process now?

>>82967398
>Citizens have a right to due process.
Unless it's criminals killing citizens.
Imma right?

>>82967881
Because criminals are... they're oppressed n stuff and... and like the government? their big n scary n a cop arrested me for weed n, i had to pay 50 dollars n it was like... my dad said mean words n stuff n like... this is why we need to defund the police. murders are so rare u know? but i see ppl being arrested or fined by scary guys in blue clothes for weed lol. u know? police dont help anybody lol ive never seen a murder happen but these scary guys made me feel afraid lol

>>82966837
>NOOO WE HAVE TO SAVE THE BROWNS FROM THEMSELVES
why are magajews such white savior crybullies?

>>82967331
Flammable nerve gas and incendiary grenades were used by the Feds. They moved the kids to the basement to avoid bullet hell and since the gas was more dense than air they all suffocated

Furthermore they bulldozed the building to destroy all the evidence and posed for pictures atop the rubble.

>>82967331
>lets save the kids being abused
>by killing all the kids
Adam Lanza? That you?

>>82967363
>People on welfare and illegals don't deserve due process.
Not all "illegals" are fresh off the boats or low life thugs. Alot of them actually work and they;re in the process of getting legalized.
>They have contributed nothing and are a net drain on taxpayers.
Immigrants and poor people pay more taxes than rich people.
>Court costs money, and if they are released they'll just keep buying food, living in houses, and getting healthcare.
>NOOOOOOOO, YOU CAN'T GET BASIC NECESSITIES TO LIVE NNNOOOOOOO

>If they go to jail they keep buying food and living in cells and getting healthcare. All paid for by good people.
Why don't Chuds get angry at Privatized Prison Complex than they do with convicts? They make billions off of law abiding citizens AND convicts.

>America sent 72.3 million dollars in aid to Brazil in 2023.
America just sent 40 BILLION to Argentina. Why isn't anybody on the right getting angry about that? Literally celebrating Americans not getting welfare.

>That means all Brazilians are either criminals, on American welfare, or both. That's $72.3 million too much. I'll start giving a shit about their criminals after they've paid all the money they took from Americans back.

Its 4Chan, you don't need to say "Criminals". You can say the N word here

>>82967936
>Not all "illegals" are fresh off the boats or low life thugs. Alot of them actually work and they;re in the process of getting legalized.
Your belief that the government shouldn't also go after those who commit the illegal action of illegally entering the country is also your subjective value judgement. It does not constitute an argument.
>Immigrants and poor people pay more taxes than rich people.
Actually they do not. The top 10% of America pays a massive percentage of the taxes. Even if we assume all illegals are a net positive, the overall tax contribution is a vanishingly small percentage of the total tax revenues.
>Why don't Chuds get angry at Privatized Prison Complex than they do with convicts? They make billions off of law abiding citizens AND convicts.
Most chuds want the prisons defunded and for criminals to be killed instead. A lot of chuds hate prisons for that reason. But yes, a chud will be more angry about the person that just raped and killed an American than the prison that keeps that killer sequestered, even if that prison profits from it. Not an argument.
>America just sent 40 BILLION to Argentina. Why isn't anybody on the right getting angry about that?
Irrelevant, each case may or may not benefit the USA in the future. Sending millions to help narcos is worse than sending billions to protect US interests. It's a subjective issue.

>>82967963
>>America just sent 40 BILLION to Argentina. Why isn't anybody on the right getting angry about that?

>Irrelevant

Yeah, Im not going to listen to you
Eat shit, faggot

>>82967936
No matter what you try to say, the bottom 150 million citizens provide less than 5% of the total tax revenues. Most of those immigrants are not top 1%, top 5%, even top 50%.

Why base your arguments directly against the objective facts?
>>82967978
Nice non-argument.

>>82967980
Red states also use the most welfare and contribute the least, maybe we should cut them off and let them die too?

>>82968072
Red states have the most niggers, spics, and immigrants. It's funny because those IQ, tax burden, crime, etc maps are invariably racial maps; it's the a form of population density map issues in statistics.

Of course, this is ignoring the fact that your argument is fallacious. The rightist doesn't say "all states that are bad should go" it's "all people that are burdens." The individual white trash wiggers in trailer parks should be dealt with like immigrants.

>>82968103
>The individual white trash wiggers in trailer parks should be dealt with like immigrants.

Those are the ones that republicans depend on for votes. If a vast majority of poor whites didn't vote or switch to the DNC or 3rd party, The right would lose every time

>>82968125
I'm not really concerned. If it wins you elections, then you should keep silent and rejoice when you are victorious. After all,
>When the enemy is making a false move, it is well not to interrupt him.

>>82968103
>Red states have the most niggers, spics, and immigrants.
Lmao retard, you just admitted that your party just rapes their voter base in the ass raw and gives your jobs to groids and immigrants once they are solidy in power. Fell for it again award I guess? desu

>>82968072
So like applying something fair, based on standards and equality instead of based on race, sex, or being a criminal? Yes, I would find this agreeable cut off all the red states no matter how many criminals, illegals, antisocials, and nonwhites it kills. And ideally we'd do the same in blue states.
But I live in a red state, so I would like all gibs to be cut off here first. We can do a phase out thing. Overnight stop all welfare in red states, welfare recipients and criminals are aggressively pursued whether they only rapists, murderers, thieves, or illegal immigrants. Treat them all equally in the eyes of the law. They can choose between being permanently banned from ever receiving benefits again and any children they have or spouses(only if non-offending), a summary execution, or being sent to a blue state on a first class flight and continue getting all the gibs they are used to.

>>82968142
No, that isn't the case. The border states are both physically more accessible to immigrants and have lower barriers to survival through lower costs of living and higher unskilled labor positions, as well as other factors. Red states also lead in deportations and are largely held back from keeping them out with issues like anchor babies, so the problem continues to fester exponentially. In California, you see a high immigrant population and positive tax revenues, but this isn't because of immigrant population, it's the old-money tech and service sector, hollywood, etc., that props the service economy up.

A serious problem with arguments like these is that you quite literally only use straw men in your posts. This is because the basis of how you see the right or rightist positions is the result of a collective hallucination from leftist echo chambers. I see leftist arguments and encounter them online, IRL, from friends and family, on TV, even shoehorned into games. I am well aware of what leftists and retarded zionist boomercons are like, and I am well acquainted with their human motivations and political positions. You don't really have that same exposure. Heck, you could call this a right wing echo chamber, but look what is happening right now: I am in polite dialogue with someone who disagrees very strongly and refuted their post with evidence and reasonable arguments. This entire thread is full of rightists in dialogue with opposing views. All you have brought is a straw man and false equivalence.

It comes down to how your position (and conservative retards) are very common, but both you leftists and conservatives can cloister yourselves in isolated political communities where these collective hallucination can fester into unrealistic strawmen, and those that disagree are banned from the religious congregation. Boomers in church fighting straw-satans, leftists on reddit fighting straw-hitlers.

>>82968142
Now you know why all conservatives hate republicans and democrats equally. They are both monoparty groups and there's no meaningful differences in their policies.

>>82965350 (OP)
>Innocent people are tortured, raped, stolen from, brutally murdered by narcoterrorists?
why do you people literally have to make shit up to hate """leftist"""

>>82968152
We should do it but blue states should make red states build a wall and pay for it first so you all can kill eachother in your own states and not try to cuck out and jump the border when you're being raped to death in the mini third world shitholes you would turn into when not on gibs

Im so fucking glad the west is collapsing from retarded leftist policies and importing immigrants. Shariah law will put these dumb cracker leftists in their place mashallah

>>82968181
I'm sure your childish conjecture makes your feel better, but yes I would agree with it in any case.

leftist here

drugs should be legal and selling drugs should not be a jailable let alone killable offense

if any of them were armed at the time, fine, kill them, but it sounds like this was mostly just a massacre

same reason the trump administration will eventually face severe justice and retribution for murdering all those people on those alleged drug boats

>>82968195
Also if you try to jump our border we unconditinally nuke your little maga themed banana republic into dust.

>>82968206
Fuck off druggie.

>>82968206
He'll die from a stroke in the midst of a super dementia alzheimer's spaz out and you will have to seethe eternally that "justice" will never be served.

>>82968225
fine by me. go after the rest

>>82968219
I don't use drugs. I just don't want big daddy government throwing people in jail for choosing to put substances in themselves, because I'm not a cuck and I like freedom

>>82968181
Sounds like a blast. We could kill all the carpet baggers and use their wealth to build the walls. Then it's a welfare massacre. Plus side, no fucking blue staters can come in after we've cleaned the place up.

>>82968233
There's no way to tell if a person who is informed, in a stable situation, unaddicted, and sober would consume drugs if given the choice. If an 18 year old decides to start taking drugs because he or she is young and naive, he can cause certain damage to his body and mind even with continued non-overdose levels of use. It just might be that, if put into a controlled environment and free from his addiction, he would be glad to be free from the compulsion to seek drugs; while he is on drugs, or addicted, or his mind has been shaped by a lifetime of drug use, he will just say
>Fuck u ur fuxkin with my high

This is a kind of strong freedom. The freedom to take drugs is in effect the freedom to put oneself in indentured servitude or slavery, and it is not legal to allow someone to sign a consensual contract to become a slave. They will remain compelled even if, under their right mind, they would choose not to be a slave to a master or a master such as drugs.

>>82968263
I don't give a shit what you think about drugs. I think gambling is retarded too but I think not wanting the state to throw people in prison for individual choices and preferences is simply being an american who respects freedom and autonomy

for some reason 4chan went from very rightfully not wanting the government to be authoritarian nannystate daddy figures in 2005 to pathetic cucks wanting their lives controlled by their leaders

it's completely irrelevant whether drugs are good or bad. it's irrelevant whether certain speech is correct or incorrect. the government should have no right to control its citizens over petty stupid shit. you should go to jail if you steal from or kill people, not for violating some low-IQ puriteen's aesthetic preferences

>>82968279
If that is the case, you're okay with people consenting to be killed and cannibalized, consenting to be enslaved (and, of course, as a slave they can no longer choose to be free), etc? If so, congratulations, you have an internally consistent worldview.

However, I also do not give a shit abour your concept of freedom. I prefer a freedom which helps those affected by it and does not facilitate the destruction of freedom and liberty.

>>82968279
>>82968284 (me)
And ironically, you are moralizing and projecting your puritanical view of freedom into this thread as if it were the one anyone "should" believe in.
>very rightfully
According to your puritanical morals. Try to stay consistent.

>>82968284
>If that is the case, you're okay with people consenting to be killed and cannibalized, consenting to be enslaved (and, of course, as a slave they can no longer choose to be free), etc? If so, congratulations, you have an internally consistent worldview.
obviously yes

>However, I also do not give a shit about your concept of freedom. I prefer a freedom which helps those affected by it and does not facilitate the destruction of freedom and liberty.
your particular deciding for others what is best for their freedom and liberty is anti-freedom at its most pathetically sanctimonious and morally bankrupt

advocate against drugs all you like. when you start advocating for the state imprisoning people for using drugs is when you've lost the plot

>>82968290
my moralizing is good and correct and your moralizing is authoritarian and cucked

>>82968301
None of those are arguments. I guess I'm "violating some low-IQ puriteen's aesthetic preferences." Projection is always so obvious.

>>82965350 (OP)
>every board is pol

Thanks op this sort of nuanced and informative discussion is just what r9k needed. Maybe for your next thread you can do "Every Conservative is a pedophile"

There is nothing I hate more than a criminal sympathizing woketard

>>82967881
criminals who do that shit go to jail
state employees who do that shit get away with it
Also, it's not always a clear line. Organized crime very often infiltrates police forces and it wouldn't surprise me if this was a hit on a rival drug gang under cover of law.

>>82968125
They're not going to switch or vote for the people who have and continue to vocally talk about kill whitey though. You are tone-deaf and repulsive.

>>82968420
Progressive leftism is very bourgeois, despite the veneer of socialist rhetoric.

>>82965479
The police and government is right 95% of the time.
You're just a nigger criminal.

>>82968806
Even when they arrest chud terrorists storming the capital to murder people?

>>82968895
Yes. Those chuds were too retarded to bring guns and actually start an insurrection.

>>82968344
50% murders aren't solved in US.

>>82968926
The problem with the J6 chuds is that they had the same domesticated mentality that the left has with regards to political action, or really anyone in the West. The best example of this is illustrated in the killing of Ashli Babbit; She proudly and fearlessly approached the room full of armed guards and politicians fearing for their lives, not because she was brave, but because she was foolish. She did not being weapons, or arms, or bombs. She, like all of the boomers taking part in the J6 "insurrection," expected that holding hands, singing kumbaya, kicking over trashcans, and yelling very loudly how discontent they were would effect political change. The idea that she herself would have to kill someone, or that someone else was willing to kill her, never really crossed her mind. Perhaps she had vague notions of a "civil war" or political killings, but it was never truly real to her. It was always something far off, obscure, impersonal. For that, reality made itself known in the form of nine milimeters of lead, and deservedly she died.

All of the other J6ers had the same imbecilic view of revolution. The fact that they did not bring guns and summarily execute every officer and politician in their paths proves that they did not have the gall to engage in a true insurrection. It was a collective of starry-eyed domesticed suburbanites feeling very strongly that they were taking part in a treasured, historic moment where, voicing how truly angry and displeased they were, the politicians would kneel and let them have their way--and not, as it should have been, a bloody insurrection.

>>82965350 (OP)
Brazil is a post diversity nation, so the UN should shut up because thats how they want ALL white countries end up as

>>82967820
>do you think the raid was successful
Absolutely, in all possible fronts

>100+ assault rifles seized
>120 dead criminals
>zero innocents dead
>many barricades took down, CV uses these to obstruct access to certain areas of the city
>public opinion massively favors the op
>4 cops died, that was tragic, but they're being treated as national heroes

>>82968279
>to pathetic cucks wanting their lives controlled by their leaders
10+ years of Dem anti free speech rethoric and ugly neo puritanism, but now when Trump is literally just following the law, you leftoids say this shit.

You retards don't deserve a good faith discussion, lying and ignoring facts are natural to the left like breathing is for all of us, I'm so glad americans saw right through the bullshit in 2024 and Trump won by a landslide, hopefully my brazilian brethren will as well next year.

Fuck you and fuck your dogshit opinions you stupid nigger.

>>82966912
Youre right, when someone starts shooting at cops they should just go away and call a judge and wait for a trial result to respond

>>82965350 (OP)
it's the sub 120 iqs that are the problem. Any group will look retarded if you zoom in on the members.

>>82965350 (OP)
Why are you /pol/ posting in the incel board?